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Petition to Un-ban Mango

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GOD!

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Seriously he should be unbanned.

I don't know what he did to get banned but who cares, he's the best smasher by far and he could really contribute a lot to the community. It's not like he killed someone or anything. And reading about his opinions was interesting, even if you had to get past all the sarcasm and lack of seriousness. But it was also nice to have a good smasher who didn't take everything so seriously.

Also if he got unbanned maybe he would keep playing smash a little longer. And therefore pulling up the metagame for every single character. I don't know if this will influence his decision. But its so dumb to permanently ban the best player in the community for something he did on the internet.

ggs swf flame away
 

INSANE CARZY GUY

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He's not an epic enough troll to be let back off a whim. Really MaNg0 is getting his kicks from this what if we just ban h-box and let MaNg0 back in.
 
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why da **** would u ban the best player in the world
 

Virgilijus

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Mango was IP banned for several reasons and multiple offenses. I don't envision him coming back. Doesn't matter that he was good at Smash and his absence hurts the community; he was fully cognizant of what his being banned would do and continued to troll and flame regardless.
 

PD4FR

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Not banning Mango for doing what other not-so-good people got banned for would be like treating a celebrity before a regular guy who needed it more just because he is a celebrity.
 
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Mango was IP banned for several reasons and multiple offenses. I don't envision him coming back. Doesn't matter that he was good at Smash and his absence hurts the community; he was fully cognizant of what his being banned would do and continued to troll and flame regardless.
unban mango! nobody cares what ****** *** mods think! the community wants mango back!
 

SSBMLahti

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Support, most of the SWF mods need to learn to have some fun and become more leniant. Bring back Mang0.

BTW, another account of my got banned for impersonation when I wasn't impersonating anyone, my name was similar as a joke. GG SWF trash mods
 

PD4FR

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TRLahti, you're not supposed to have two accounts in the first place. :3

We have rules for a reason, you know. If we didn't have these rules, the site would eventually destroy itself.
 

SSBMLahti

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TRLahti, you're not supposed to have two accounts in the first place. :3

We have rules for a reason, you know. If we didn't have these rules, the site would eventually destroy itself.
I had to make a second account since one got banned...
 

PD4FR

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I guess I can forgive that, considering it was all a misunderstanding, but that doesn't change my mind about the other things I said.
 

Rappster

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Seriously he should be unbanned.

I don't know what he did to get banned but who cares, he's the best smasher by far and he could really contribute a lot to the community. It's not like he killed someone or anything. And reading about his opinions was interesting, even if you had to get past all the sarcasm and lack of seriousness. But it was also nice to have a good smasher who didn't take everything so seriously.

Also if he got unbanned maybe he would keep playing smash a little longer. And therefore pulling up the metagame for every single character. I don't know if this will influence his decision. But its so dumb to permanently ban the best player in the community for something he did on the internet.

ggs swf flame away
http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=3968062
mango's posts.
read through em.
i couldn't find a constructive/useful one out of the first 25.
granted, many of my posts are pointless/troling/nonconstructive, but i am not a role model. he is.
 

Lovage

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LOL idk why you guys think his skill would matter at all

mods on this site don't play smash so they could care less
 

Pi

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LOL idk why you guys think his skill would matter at all

mods on this site don't play smash so they could care less
pretty much what I was gonna say

Honestly do any of the black names even remember when they were relevant in the smash scene?

Why are they even still mods of a smash site?

You cannot have a site made SPECIFICALLY for a game, and then have mods who aren't even active participants in that game or it's community.

And you certainly don't ban the best player in the world from the site dedicated to the game he wrecks at.
 

Virgilijus

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pretty much what I was gonna say

Honestly do any of the black names even remember when they were relevant in the smash scene?

Why are they even still mods of a smash site?

You cannot have a site made SPECIFICALLY for a game, and then have mods who aren't even active participants in that game or it's community.

And you certainly don't ban the best player in the world from the site dedicated to the game he wrecks at.
I have been a part of the Smash Community for a while and gone to several tournies.

But of course, that doesn't matter: being good at Smash doesn't directly correlate to being a moderator. Does the commissioner of the NFL have to be a player in order to handle the administrative duties? No. Can it help? Yes. But in no way is it remotely necessary to be a good moderator.

And why would you not ban some one who repeatedly broke numerous rules that are otherwise punished by bans? Should we just let everyone that is good at the game be able to post and do anything they want on this site, free of any repercussions? No: that's completely unfair and a horrible model for a forum.
 

1048576

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There's a midpoint though. The community is obviously better off with random scrub trolls banned, but the community is also obviously better off with Mango in it, trolling and all.
 

Rappster

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There's a midpoint though. The community is obviously better off with random scrub trolls banned, but the community is also obviously better off with Mango in it, trolling and all.
and we should totally make Terrell Owens the spokesperson for the NFL!
he might not say the best things, but dammit, he's a great player.
 

Othello

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While Mango might be an amazing person, there is a point where breaking rules overrides their contribution. And as said before he doesn't contribute much:rolleyes:
 

GOD!

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Temp ban is all we care about honestly.

We aren't asking that he be given some god-like impunity (though when it comes to smash he might have it, idk dude I have noooo idea how I can outsmart him the whole match. I understand his tricks and how to prepare for them only after watching his vids but every new vid surprises me.. :-) yeah). The point is:

1) Mods take their job too seriously and try and over-regulate people to death. He had fun on the boards and his trash talk made the boards fun. In case you guys haven't noticed
people like trolling and trash talk.
It stimulates more than just sitting around doing idiotic theorycrafting, then going back to training mode and trying to find true combos and percents. That's not bad, but knowing game mechanics is not what makes mango so freaking good.

2) His posts don't need to be productive serious or anything like that. gdi give him a freaking break.

The football analogy fails cause look at how many coaches and managers and commisonaers used to be players themselves. Going to a few tournaments doesn't mean anything at all. You dont have to be skilled at all. And I don't even know who this mod was, but it takes understanding of the region you smash in to understand a person's post. Regional zones are different; and if some EC mod who never got out of the house got offended by mango ragging on people, that's like.. just dumb.

I miss his posts.

And perma bans for continual trolling is stupid. You dont pull the president or congressman over for speeding cause they have important things to do (thats actually law). Bad analogy but point being, different players should be treated differently.

tl:dr mod who banned him was an idiot, let's have his name already and I want to know what smashboards can do, practically and measurably to get him back. Putting power on the hands of a bunch of randoms with infraction buttons is just dumb as ffffuuu
 

Mic_128

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If you are serious, please discuss this in forum support.
 

Virgilijus

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Temp ban is all we care about honestly.

We aren't asking that he be given some god-like impunity (though when it comes to smash he might have it, idk dude I have noooo idea how I can outsmart him the whole match. I understand his tricks and how to prepare for them only after watching his vids but every new vid surprises me.. :-) yeah). The point is:

1) Mods take their job too seriously and try and over-regulate people to death. He had fun on the boards and his trash talk made the boards fun. In case you guys haven't noticed
people like trolling and trash talk.
It stimulates more than just sitting around doing idiotic theorycrafting, then going back to training mode and trying to find true combos and percents. That's not bad, but knowing game mechanics is not what makes mango so freaking good.

2) His posts don't need to be productive serious or anything like that. gdi give him a freaking break.

The football analogy fails cause look at how many coaches and managers and commisonaers used to be players themselves. Going to a few tournaments doesn't mean anything at all. You dont have to be skilled at all. And I don't even know who this mod was, but it takes understanding of the region you smash in to understand a person's post. Regional zones are different; and if some EC mod who never got out of the house got offended by mango ragging on people, that's like.. just dumb.

I miss his posts.

And perma bans for continual trolling is stupid. You dont pull the president or congressman over for speeding cause they have important things to do (thats actually law). Bad analogy but point being, different players should be treated differently.

tl:dr mod who banned him was an idiot, let's have his name already and I want to know what smashboards can do, practically and measurably to get him back. Putting power on the hands of a bunch of randoms with infraction buttons is just dumb as ffffuuu
You say we take our jobs too seriously, but have no idea what actually goes on behind the scenes. I'm sorry, but there is no foundation for that claim. If the mods really wanted to take their job to some absurd level of austerity, there could be 5x as many infractions given out as there currently are. But there aren't, and it's not necessarily a problem; many moderators use their discretion on certain posts and take a bit of leeway in dealing with posters. All of the mods and staff know this but posters like to assume we are more dogmatic and soulless rule enforcers than posters who have willingly accepted responsibility on the forum they enjoy visiting.

You say give him a break, but I am fairly certain you have no idea how many breaks and second chances he was given. There were several and he threw all of them away with flare.

The football analogy doesn't fail because

1) Not all coaches and managers and commissioners were good at football, or had lengthy careers.
2) There are many good football players that made horrible coaches, GMs, and were even banned from certain accolades because of their behavior. Pete Rose and baseball immediately comes to mind as another sports example.

Different players should be treated differently is a horrible model for a site as large as ours. Who is to determine which posters are to be treated differently and how are they to be treated differently? Opening that doorway would lead to such turmoil and chaos because it arbitrarily favors certain posters who, themselves, are classified arbitrarily.

All of the mods chosen on SWF were respected and contributing posters[i/], they weren't random people on the internet that were grabbed and forced to moderate on this site despite having no interest in it. They are volunteers; if they didn't care about the site they would resign (and many do, if they feel their interest waning). Waving your hands and saying they are all idiots because they are enforcing the rules that you agreed with doesn't make much sense.
 
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