Personal Top Tier List

[SheerMadness]

Who thinks Isai's Yoshi is ugly?

His combos are obviously way above anyone else, which make it fun to watch.

He just doesn't necessarily care about looking flashy in other aspects with parries and shield breaks. Also he doesn't need to put on as much pressure with crazy tech chasing since he drops less combos than me or anyone else.

 

[prisonchild]

maybe ugly was the wrong word, but i've heard a bunch of comments about it being weird

 

[ballin4life]

why do people think isai's yoshi is so ugly?

because he uses the yellow one - what an eyesore

 

[B Link]

Bro, you've gotta be kidding me.

why does everyone think isai's yoshi is ugly? or have i just not seen a pretty yoshi yet?



PS feel better WOTG

Sept. 9, 2012 -- 10:13pm

cuz he always chooses that banana color

have you seen the dark blue yoshi? it's pretty pretty

My response

why do people think isai's yoshi is so ugly?

Today, 2:05pm

because he uses the yellow one - what an eyesore

Ballin's response

How many responses do you want, prisonchild? It's CUZ HE USES YELLOW! xP

 

[The Star King]

^^I totally disagree with you but can't help but salivate at you imagery lol.



Yea... yea he did. It's really annoying when I get ALL MY FANS pming me on Youtube and being like, "hey, you live by Sheer right. Yea his Yoshi is SOO COOL. I try and copy how he plays."

In all honesty, I tell people to copy him when they ask me for Yoshi advice lol. He's really formed the text book Yoshi (a really good text book mind you, no disrespect xD ). Plus his playstyle is more air-tight than mine I feel.

I swear the internet doesn't even know I play Yoshi >__>

/salt

Influential in playstyle =/= influential in people playing the char in the first place

Like, I started playing Yoshi on my own accord, not because of Sheer. BUT I stole a decent number of Yoshi stuff from him. So he influenced my playstyle, but I don't play the character because of him.

lawl theres no way ness is as mainstream as yoshi. theres like two and a half ness players in the whole world.

Yes way.

We all know every noob in the world loves Ness

And even if you're talking about high level players:

A tier+ has you, Firo, and Peek with Ness as one of your best/most used chars, and me + A$ as, er, avid players.

A tier+ has me and Sheer with Yoshi as one of our best/most used chars, and... that's pretty much it.

His combos are obviously way above anyone else

I don't agree.

maybe ugly was the wrong word, but i've heard a bunch of comments about it being weird

Yeah, I wouldn't call it ugly but I would agree with weird

 

[Surri-Sama]

Yes way.

We all know every noob in the world loves Ness

And even if you're talking about high level players:

A tier+ has you, Firo, and Peek with Ness as one of your best/most used chars, and me + A$ as, er, avid players.

A tier+ has me and Sheer with Yoshi as one of our best/most used chars, and... that's pretty much it.

This.

IMO peek did for ness what sheer did for yoshi, at least very similar.

 

[ballin4life]

I'd agree with Surri. Also I think Sheer's fox has taught me some stuff (even in the very few times I've played him online)

 

[weedwack]

Peek vids definitely helped out my ness game when i was getting started.

Im at this weird point right now where my ness is much better against people who are better than me, and my falcon is much better against people who are worse than me.

 

[Battlecow]

that means you need to learn to fight the SIMPLE STUFF with ness

 

[The Star King]

Lvl 9 CPUs are better against me than they probably should be, wut

 

[prisonchild]

Lvl 9 CPUs are better against me than they probably should be, wut

same with me, maybe we don't take them too seriously?

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

shield and you win

 

[weedwack]

I think I know how to counter most simple stuff. Its just that my falcon is better at approaching and my ness is better at not being approached.

 

[TANK64]

Influential in playstyle =/= influential in people playing the char in the first place

Like, I started playing Yoshi on my own accord, not because of Sheer. BUT I stole a decent number of Yoshi stuff from him. So he influenced my playstyle, but I don't play the character because of him.

I understand what you're saying but only half agree. He obv didn't influence people who already were playing Yoshi, like me, and maybe not you. But I know that people who enjoyed watching him and though his playstyle was cool, became more open to trying Yoshi out. You're telling me you haven't seen the influx of Yoshi players in the last year or two? (or players who play Yoshi more and more these days).

And new players- forget about it.

Also I agree with what Surri said, and it goes along with my point. People like watching Peek, and like his playstyle, and he's really good. So they want to try out Ness and emulate that playstyle to some degree.

The playstyle IS what sells the character.


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Also, Isai's Yoshi is horrendous IMO. It's just uncomfortable to watch.

I mean, no offense. It's just weird.

 

[SheerMadness]

I started playing Yoshi mainly due to the Sossi vs 358 video I saw in 2005. Most of my play style is influenced by Sossi and a little bit of Prince.

I think a lot of people online started playing Yoshi because of me back in like 2007/2008 when my Yoshi was clear head and shoulders above anyone else. I was doing things with Yoshi that literally no one outside of Japan was doing. I'm fairly certain a lot of people saw that and were influenced to try and pick him up.

That's just how smash goes, for any character. How many people wanted to pick up Pikachu after they saw Isai combo Johnny's Pika across the stage every stock back in the early days? Probably a ton of people.

Were all influenced by people we see and we all steal things from people were influenced by.

 

[Yobolight]

I started playing Yoshi mainly due to the Sossi vs 358 video I saw in 2005. Most of my play style is influenced by Sossi and a little bit of Prince.

I think a lot of people online started playing Yoshi because of me back in like 2007/2008 when my Yoshi was clear head and shoulders above anyone else. I was doing things with Yoshi that literally no one outside of Japan was doing. I'm fairly certain a lot of people saw that and were influenced to try and pick him up.

That's just how smash goes, for any character. How many people wanted to pick up Pikachu after they saw Isai combo Johnny's Pika across the stage every stock back in the early days? Probably a ton of people.

Were all influenced by people we see and we all steal things from people were influenced by.

That is so true. After I saw Peek and Firo's Ness on Youtube when I was just starting to play the game I knew I wanted to play Ness. It also certainly helped that he starts off really good at low level play and gradually gets comparatively worse, and it is fun to play a character that is so virulently hated on these boards because if I lose I can just say "Smashboards unanimously says that Ness is the worst character in the game. Me barely losing against your Pikachu doesn't make you good".

Also Sheer your Yoshi is undeniably the gold standard for people trying to figure out how to play him who don't play online.

 

[asianaussie]

'Playing Ness' has become a john

oh lordy

 

[Yobolight]

'Playing Ness' has become a john

oh lordy

The tier list is a legitimate john, Isai didn't lose Apex because he wasn't good enough.

 

[TJ.]

My tier list (in terms of fun):

s
link
mario

b
falcon

c
yoshi
fox
ness
luigi
dk on a good day

d-z
everyone else

 

[Frogles]

yobolight makes a lot of sense. the only reason i ever lose is because ness sucks.

 

[B Link]

I like using ness

except when I wanna win

 

[XKCP]

Ness has one of the most fun up-B moves in the game, along with Pika and Doug's Hug.

 

[SuperLuigi9624]

S Tier:
1)Luigi
2)Ness

A Tier:
3)Pikachu

B Tier:
4)Mario
5)Captain Falcon

C Tier:
6)Link
7)Fox

D Tier:
8)Yoshi
9)Kirby

E Tier:
10)Link
11)Samus
12)Jigglypuff

 

[RickySSB]

I forgot my fun tier.

S Tier
Ness - cuz I start to fool around everytime I use him.
Samus
Yoshi

A Tier
Falcon
Kirby
Luigi

B Tier
Mario
Jigglypuff
Link

C Tier
Fox
Pikachu
DK

 

[banze]

My list would be something like this.

S Tier
Pikachu
Kirby

A Tier
Falcon
Mario
Link

B Tier
Luigi
Ness
Samus
Jigglypuff

C Tier
Fox
DK
Yoshi

 

[Fish641]

S Tier:
1)Luigi
2)Ness

A Tier:
3)Pikachu

B Tier:
4)Mario
5)Captain Falcon

C Tier:
6)Link
7)Fox

D Tier:
8)Yoshi
9)Kirby

E Tier:
10)Link
11)Samus
12)Jigglypuff

Not a fan of DK, eh?

 

[Cobrevolution]

S - I'm a one trick pony.
Samus.

A
Falcon
Luigi

B
Pikachu
DK

C - Literally everyone else.
Jigglypuff
Yoshi
Mario
Kirby
Ness
Fox
Link

 

[jimmyjoe]

Fun tier

S
Fox (enjoying the challenge of learning him)
Samus (fun +built-in-johns)
Mario
Pika (winning is fun too)

A
Luigi
Jiggz
Doug

B
Link
Yoshi

C
Kirby (used to MAIN him.. barely ever pick him now
DK
Ness

 

[Shorts]

Top Tier
Kirby
Jiggs
Fox

High Tier
Pikachu
Link
Samus


Mid Tier
Falcon
Mario
DK

Low Tier
Ness
Luigi
Yoshi

Mains get Italics~

 

[R0Y]

I never knew that Samus was considered so bad, I was always way better with her than Donkey Kong (minus the infinite throw trap)

 

[King Omega]

A: Falcon
B: Fox
D: DK
F: everybody else except Jigglypuff
Z: Jigglypuff

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

Singles

• My Best: Yoshi/Falcon, Pikachu, DK
• My OK: Samus, Mario, Ness, Link
• My not so good: Fox, Kirby, Luigi
• I can't rest, therefore I suck with it in singles: Jigglypuff

Dubz

• My Best: Pikachu/Falcon, Yoshi, Samus
• My OK: Fox, DK, Mario, Ness
• My not so good: Link, Kirby, Luigi
• I can''t combo, therefore I suck with it in doubles: Jigglypuff

 

[Komotonoto]

SS
Armor King
S
King
A
Dragunov, Heihachi, Jin Kazama
B
Yoshimitsu
C
Kazuya

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

In Tekken I use Law and Yoshi, I prefer 5 over 6. I also have an OK raven but it is not nearly as good as the other 2.
In SC I use Talim/Siggy
In SF I use Gouken and Dudley in the most recent iteration, Q/Dudley in 3rd.

 

[151rby]

A:
Ness
Yoshi
Jigglypuff

B:
Donkey Kong
Pikachu
Kirby

C:
Link
Luigi
Samus

D:
Mario
Fox
Captain Falcon

 

[cmu6eh]

Good:
The top row.
Bad:
The bottom row.

 

[meowmeowrainbowkitty]

Fun tiers:

A: Puff, DK, CF
B: Ness, Samus, Kirby
C: mario, link, yoshi
wtfamidoing?: fox, luigi, pika

 

[Komotonoto]

In Tekken I use Law and Yoshi, I prefer 5 over 6. I also have an OK raven but it is not nearly as good as the other 2.
In SC I use Talim/Siggy
In SF I use Gouken and Dudley in the most recent iteration, Q/Dudley in 3rd.

Dude we should play sometime! I play Tekken 5 all the time on ps3. If you got ps3 we can play it online.

 

[Kink-Link5]

Fox
Mario
Jigglypuff
Ness
Link
Falcon
DK
Kirby
Pikachu
Samus
Yoshi
Luigi

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

Dude we should play sometime! I play Tekken 5 all the time on ps3. If you got ps3 we can play it online.

don't own that console nor most other consoles sorry. I played at my previous college where we had some really wtfgood marvel/SF/tekken players.
I mean MarlinPie had issues with some people there in Marvel.

The tier list is a legitimate john, Isai didn't lose Apex because he wasn't good enough.

You choose to use the character. If you wanted to win you'd pick someone else. It isn't a john since it was your choice. I main Yoshi but I don't make excuses because I picked Yoshi. The only time it is a somewhat uable john is if it is a random char tournament but when is that done anyway?
P PS: If you personally random, then it was your choice to random