Persona 4 Arena Ultimax: Out in NA, It's Time You Burn That Dread

[LivewiresXe]

I think I'll actually go and watch all the stuff I had saved from last night before I hit the training room today. That and well, make up my mind on whether I'm going to tech forward or down instead of teching forward-down to try and figure I can compensate mid-way through. Either way, I'll most likely be on at some point tonight if there's not already going to be a lobby.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Happy birthday, Rutger! :3

Smooth Criminal

 

[Lythium]

Happy birthday Rutger! :3

 

[Crusayer]

I already play with a wired connection. My speedtest actually shows everything just fine but when I netplay, the delay is absurd (spikes like crazy). I literally have no idea what's causing it. I reset the router and it works fine for several hours, then goes back to being slow. And no, I tried playing with nothing running on my comp and it still lagged.

I probably shouldn't knock it til I try it for my PS3, but oh well.

Main reason I'm considering to make a keyboard stick is cuz I play melty with my keyboard. I don't really want to bring a keyboard to EVO lol. Plus, I've always wanted to try blaz / p4 with it.

Happy b-day rutger :V.

 

[Minato]

I mean, what's your upload speed though since that's most important. On speedtest and on your PS3 network settings.

Outside of that, your best bet is to manually input your internet configs on your PS3 and then DMZ/open ports.
That's what I do and it works fine unless my ISP is working on stuff.

 

[Crusayer]

My upload's like 0.4 mbps lol. It's been like that since forever though, even before this whole lagging ordeal came about.

I'll probably have to phone our ISP sometime. Probably during reading week.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Man, my speed stuff is always weird and fluctuating. Like, I remember it being like... 10Down and 0.95Up, and being like "whaaa?".

 

[Minato]

That's a pretty awful upload speed lol

That Canadian internet I guess.

 

[Lythium]

Canadian internet is terrible, I can vouch for that. :<

 

[Teczer0]

Happy Birthday Rutger!

Have a good one :D

 

[LivewiresXe]

Canadian internet is terrible, I can vouch for that. :<

My upload speed is always for some weird reason inconsistent (which might have to do with me using a Wireless connection). The really crazy thing though is that the connection speed the guy who runs the Ottawa scene uses for the stream is like....16megs Download speed and 92 megs Upload speed. Not 9.2, 92. It's literally the exact opposite of MTL too, lol.

 

[Minato]

Generally 1 mbps is like the minimum for fighters, but even that's still bad.

Also doesn't Canada have bandwidth limits for their internet? Is that for all ISPs there?

 

[LivewiresXe]

Generally 1 mbps is like the minimum for fighters, but even that's still bad.

Also doesn't Canada have bandwidth limits for their internet? Is that for all ISPs there?

It's not a "will shut your internet off if you exceed it" cap, it's actually a "if you pass x amount it costs you more" type thing. But, my Upload, like I said is pretty much a variable thing that goes back and forth from just below 1 to...hell if I know, a LOT higher than that, like 4 or something. And my PS3's downstairs in a basement that has on occasion lost internet connection while 2 other laptops zap bandwidth from a pretty cheap Wireless-G router, lol.

 

[Lythium]

The problem is that Canada just straight-up gets gouged for internet, compared to other first world countries. Hefty bills for really slow internet with caps, and not a lot of providers to keep it competitive.

 

[LivewiresXe]

The problem is that Canada just straight-up gets gouged for internet, compared to other first world countries. Hefty bills for really slow internet with caps, and not a lot of providers to keep it competitive.

Yeah, Lythi nailed it so, pretty much this. Of course, doesn't help my provider's based in Quebec so it has that translation slowdown.

 

[Minato]

I'll be on in 40 minutes.

 

[Crusayer]

I will attempt to play a few games!

And likely fail horribly due to bad internet. I can only hope the internet based gods will allow me to play several games without any problems.

 

[LivewiresXe]

So, I was watching the (about 7 or so) replays I saved from the lobby last night, and counted up the AoAs I did per match because well, I thought "hell, they're probably over-exaggerating a good bit on how much it is" and I felt that if you weren't, I'd need to see it with my own two eyes. Note that in all of these except for the first one I used Chie and that in the first one I was Yu. Anyway, I made some....unsettling and startling discoveries. Note this represents AoAs per match and ONLY AoAs per match.

(Order of first to last, so the last one was the last one I played)

vs Minato (as Yu): 5
vs Minato: 9
vs Teczero: 5
vs Rutger: 4
vs Teczero: 3
vs Teczero: 10 (!)
vs Sakurazaki: 5


So, um....even though this includes blocked/whiffed ones, if my math is right that rounds to around 6 AoAs per match as an average if we're using those 7 as something to go by which sounds ridiculous even to me. I'm not expecting to be able to fix it overnight but...I don't think it's unreasonable to, for a start, aim to halve the amount so it's around 3 or something like that. And, uh...I'm sorry I ever doubted you guys on that.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Minato better start praying to the internet-based gods, too.

Netplay grappler inbound.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Crusayer]

OH MY GOD.

Welp, tonight is gonna be full of tears isn't it.

 

[LivewiresXe]

OH MY GOD.

Welp, tonight is gonna be full of tears isn't it.

Salty tears. But on the plus side, instead of people yelling "BLOCK!!!" to me, they'll be yelling "DUCK!!!" instead.

 

[Minato]

Lobby's up. Also what's your PSN, Smooth?

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Alibi_of_Tyrants, iirc.

I'm in the middle of some stuff right now, so our little dance may have to be put on hold. Dinner, cleaning (at 10:48 pm EST, I know), and laundry. Sorry, man.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Crusayer]

Oh god I have no idea what i'm doing in this game anymore.

 

[LivewiresXe]

"Don't worry, Chie's oki is only really something you have to worry about getting punished for if they think of putting out DPs."

*starts Chie oki, gets punished in 6 different ways by Liz everytime*

-_- FML.

 

[Crusayer]

Wtf was that that hit me there on the last match? Was it a 2B or DP? Jesus that has some vertical range.

Also, I hope you're salty about that grab out of your teleport Minato LOL. I have never seen that before.

 

[Minato]

That was pretty weird. I'll make sure you don't press buttons on Yosuke next time like I do for everyone else.

 

[Crusayer]

Welp there's that staple lag.

Guess it's time for me to ditch.

 

[Minato]

You need to practice more, Crusayer. You're playing it like BB but in the bad ways. Mashing attacks after teching/wakeup and always DPing (or even rolling in this). Jumping too.

There's oki in this game lol

 

[Crusayer]

Yeah I went into today's session with no practice. I just wanted to play since I haven't in forever. I'll be sure to practice when I have time. I'm sure you remember back when I actually played this game ;_;.

Also yes, I was mashing to tech LOL. Definitely forgot that you can hold to tech in this game.

 

[Teczer0]

GGs everyone

Left early to study a bit more. Kinda wanted to catch up on an anime too xD

 

[LivewiresXe]

I'd say GGs, but well yeah...I know they weren't. Apologies for the couple of instances where I literally just put my stick down in frustration while the match was still going. That was disrespectful, and I knew even at the time I shouldn't have done it.

(mini ramble thing below on account of feeling down after the lobby and just venting)


I'm not sure if you guys have ever experienced it but....do you ever have those nights where when you play it winds up making you wonder "why do I bother?" and sometimes feel almost like quitting because the whole time just well...doesn't feel fun? I know I got somehow worse as it went on, but about half-way through I just started to not be "feeling it" as much and was kinda like "well...here we go again" by the end.

Dunno, it's just weird since while I like to enjoy fighters, I tend to take losses to the heart, which gets to me a bit after nights like this despite knowing that in theory "if you go 0-40 and learn to properly deal with even 1 new situation, it's better than going 12-2 using scrubby tactics and recessing backwards". Was just odd since everyone else's records were well...significantly better than 1-15.

 

[Minato]

I actually thought you did better today.

 

[Teczer0]

Same, actually.

I didn't think you'd block 3/4s of my wake up anythings but you did.

 

[LivewiresXe]

*mind is blown* Well um...I don't know if it showed at all, but I was at least making an ATTEMPT to not do as many AoAs and DPs. At times it resulted in me laying off the A button when I went for sweeps and just doing 2B, but I kept thinking "keep a mental counter of how many you've done to try and know if you should lay off". At least, for the first 10 matches.

But, um....thanks. I'm actually pleasantly surprised by that and kinda embarrassed by my little tiff, wishing I could time machine edit, lol.

 

[Teczer0]

You AoA'd a lot in one of the games I think vs Minato?

You did do it less than I personally expected.

Improvements aren't always in the form of a game win.

Case in point I improved from when I first started and I still have 0 PSR :3c

 

[LivewiresXe]

Yeah, I don't doubt I've improved a lot from when I started. And yet, I have like a 16% W/L record total, lol.

 

[Teczer0]

Yeah, I don't doubt I've improved a lot from when I started. And yet, I have like a 16% W/L record total, lol.

I'm almost sure mine is worse than that.

Maybe its around the same iunno.

 

[Minato]

You made an effort to not do as many, Livewire. Not quite there but it was better than last time.
Also keep working on your oki. You actually got me with one of them too.

The reasons why I escaped out of yours (and Crusayer's too) midscreen was you weren't doing the 5DD.
If you tried, it was too early since I should be stuck in blockstun for much longer.

Also, decided to hit the lab with Chie after the lobby. Man this character.
DP then combo on a cornered opponent does over 4K with meter. Also found some dumb mixups and frame traps.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Yeah, she even has some stupid basic Godfist ender corner combo that does 4030 damage where usually the only semi-annoying bit on it is going from Black Spot to Godfist. You're going to be playing as everyone by the time summer rolls around, aren't you Minato?