It’s not that simple. When you say “projector”, “capture card” and “TV”, I don’t know what kind of model you are talking about and which video signals it supports. You need to provide more and precise information.Can you tell me what is the best and 2nd best set up for Melee in regards to...
Gamecube out to >> Projector for the audience, Line to Capture Card, plus Line to the TV the players are playing on?
What about the original Wii? What's the best possible set up or 2nd best possible set up for that? I'm going to be running a tournament in a few months and if I can't get my hands on Gamecubes, I have friends who have Wii's that haven't been touched for almost 5-6 years. So I can just buy theirs off their hands for dirt cheap or even free and that would be my backup plan.
I personally have an original 2001 Gamecube, but I don't want to use it that much just for my personal sentimental reasons haha.
When you want to use three outputs, you need distribution amplifiers of some sort (YPbPr or RGBHV). Like I wrote in the OP, the (inofficial) Wii VGA cables don’t support that. It might be possible when using a YPbPr→RGBHV converter, but I don’t own one so I can’t say for sure.
Under the premise that a Wii must be used, I would probably choose one of these signal paths:
1. Wii → YPbPr D-Terminal cables → XCAPTURE-1 → D-Terminal to BNC out → Sony PVM-20L5 or PVM-20M7MDE → passthrough outputs connected to the projector (as YPbPr or converted to RGBHV with a converter, if necessary; depends on the projector you use)
2. Wii → YPbPr RCA cables → YPbPr to RGBHV converter (with a D-SUB HD15 (“VGA”) connector) → RGBHV distribution amplifier with four outputs → capture card (XCAPTURE-1 or PEXHDCAP or SC512N1-L/DVI) + CRT PC monitor + projector
Prices for option 1: 15$+308$+20$+200$ (+40$ if you need the RGBHV converter) = 543-583$
Alternatively, you can go for the SC512N1-L/DVI instead of the XCAPTURE-1 if you have enough space within your desktop computer. You won’t need the D-Terminal stuff this way, might reduce total cost by a few dollars.
Prices for option 2: 5$+40$+20$+130$ (if you go with StarTech PEXHDCAP) = 195$. CRT PC monitors are available for 0-20$ so I assumed you’ll be able to find one or two for free.
Oh, that sounds like they haven’t improved anything in these regards from the SC-500 / PEXHDCAP that I currently use. I have configured the drivers like this:The XCAPTURE-1 has issues when it comes to handling certain color spaces and full/limited range discrepancies. You can correct for it in software. I usually run my footage through an alias filter in VirtualDub to correct recordings when I have to, and if I wasn't lazy then I could edit the shaders in OBS to fix it as I stream. For the Xbox 360, I just change the console's color space to YCbCr601 and that compensates for the error. (I sure wish the Wii U had meaningful video options...)
Do you use these drivers as well or have you found a different version to work better? And do you think that my settings are configured properly or did I make some sub-par choices?
Considering you have Gamecube D-Terminal cables already, couldn’t you simply modify them for RGBHV / VGA output and avoid the XRGB-3 altogether? And use the Mayflash Wii VGA cables if you stream Brawl / PM?The XRGB-3 is used in this setup simply to convert component to VGA. The upscaling mode isn't used. (The XRGB-3's upscaler mode has about 1.5 frames of lag. The linedoubler mode has close to 0 lag and either doubles the resolution of 15khz sources or simply does a color space conversion for 31khz sources.)
But I guess you’ve owned the XRGB-3 already for other consoles, so soldering on precious Gamecube DAC cables is something you prefer to avoid?