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People say mr.GW sucks, but really, its cuz they cant use him.

Superninjabreadman

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My eyes hurt. seriously. it dosent take that much longer to write "thought" instead of "thot".
Seriously. Comon. whenever someone says someone sucks. they mean. "I suck with (enter name) unless they're talking about Yoshi, Ice Climbers or Pichu(even though he is cute...).
Game&Watch isnt top tier. nobody likes playing as him. i dont really get why he was the last to unlock in Melee.
 

-Wolfy-

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He doesn't suck, he's jsut not good compared to most other characters because of his overly predictable recovery, his aerials, some of which are not l-cancelable, his lightness which leads to K.O.'s at very low percentages, and his minute shield which is far too easy to stab.

Trust me, I used to play GaW all the time. I contributed to Jihnsius' judgement hammer study, and I've competed with GaW, but trust me. Compared to most other characters, he jsut doesn't stack up at a competitive level. "Sucks" just isn't a respectful way to describe him, as it is rude to people who become good with him jsut out of love for the character.

WG out.
 

The Phenom

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Hey I think I'm excellent playing with him and love him:my favorite character, but I'm ok if he leaves because Nintendo told Hal to take him out. I know how most people don't see his true power because the individual plays with no heart and intelligence therefore Nintendo taking him out of Brawl.
The individuals who play with intelligence and heart-(of all importance) don't come very often to stay of his interest for Mr.Game&Watch. Are you of one of those KingPop?

Furthermore of believe of no other can I say by justifying an opinion of what I hold of a opinion because of the audience / or individual, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT !

... Did you know I get nines often?
 

j00t

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Hey I think I'm excellent playing with him and love him:my favorite character, but I'm ok if he leaves because Nintendo told Hal to take him out. I know how most people don't see his true power because the individual plays with no heart and intelligence therefore Nintendo taking him out of Brawl.
The individuals who play with intelligence and heart-(of all importance) don't come very often to stay of his interest for Mr.Game&Watch. Are you of one of those KingPop?

Furthermore of believe of no other can I say by justifying an opinion of what I hold of a opinion because of the audience / or individual, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT !

... Did you know I get nines often?
I couldn't comprehend this post at all. Am I just ******** or what? :p

First of all, you're saying that players who don't play the characters they actually like and just play high tier characters to win aren't intelligent? That doesn't make any sense to me.
 

-Wolfy-

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First off, theres no reason trying to convert a zealot. I'm going to go ahead and drop this subject, because there is overwhelming proof that GaW just does not stack up as a CHARACTER. ChuDat plays well as GaW because ChuDat is good with everyone. That's skill, not quality of character.I'm glad you are good with him, maybe you should put up a vid or something if you play with so much heart that his weaknesses are canceled out XD
 

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im working out getting a vid out guys, i know that sounds sad. no one ever has a video camera and when people do they just kinda tell me to stfu in not so many words. but yeah its time to put the myth to rest (or at least try to) im practicing for u guys right now, i always played for the fans. but when fans talk **** to you it kinda makes u wanna well ya know... quit.
 

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Theres no argument. Game and Watch does not stack up AS A CHARACTER. If you're good with him, its because you are good, not because GaW is. No one is disputing that.

I have no hate for the low tiers. I main Bowser o.0
 

Jok3r

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G&W doesn't suck at all..It just that there a LOT of better characters than him so he gets pounded on >.< ..people play G&W for the enjoyment not really to win just to give your opponent a hard time =)
 

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I believe that no character sucks. just because they don't do as well in tournaments doesn't prove a thing. and even if some characters are in fact better, saying they suck is still a little harsh. I get mad when people say Roy sucks, they just don't have the patience to play him well. I REALLY hate the people who say everyone below middle tier sucks. How would they like it if I say everyone above low tier are way to broken and overpowered?
 

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You guys are really misconstruing what I'm saying here. I'm on your side. I love playing low tiers too. But at least I'm realistic about it. I use Bowser because I enjoy using Bowser. I realize he isn't good, but I use him anyways. If someone says your character sucks, don't ***** and moan about it, beat them and show them that your a better player than them. I'm a believer in Tires don exits, but I'm also a believer that the difference in characters is how much they amplify your skill.
 

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I believe that no character sucks. just because they don't do as well in tournaments doesn't prove a thing. and even if some characters are in fact better, saying they suck is still a little harsh. I get mad when people say Roy sucks, they just don't have the patience to play him well. I REALLY hate the people who say everyone below middle tier sucks. How would they like it if I say everyone above low tier are way to broken and overpowered?
Play a good enough person, and they'll convince you low tier is really low tier for a reason. But of course there are some minor underestimated characters, but for the most part the tier list is a very accurate representation of the character's capabilities.
 

pablovirus

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Those stating that Low Tier characters are not that bad and "bla bla bla bunch of words" are forgetting that Tiers count for the METAGAME of each character, they don't mean a thing (well, they don't mean MUCH) if you play against the group of casuals that live near your house.
 

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Topics like this still exist on SmashBoards?
I know. I wish this would just get closed. First off, it's a topic that will never be resolved, for as long as there are a few zealots, they will never be fully converted to rationality. Game and Watch is bottom tier because PROFESSIONALS deem him to be so, not because of how he does in tournaments. The tiers are decided by the BRoomers.
 

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I know. I wish this would just get closed. First off, it's a topic that will never be resolved, for as long as there are a few zealots, they will never be fully converted to rationality. Game and Watch is bottom tier because PROFESSIONALS deem him to be so, not because of how he does in tournaments. The tiers are decided by the BRoomers.
The irony is they are so focused on preaching they forget to just play. Nothing is stopping them from taking GW past what anyone has before, but they don't do it.

Any character can beat any character, that is common sense. GW can even 0-death many characters. That doesn't make him as good as Fox, sorry. Maybe if you played perfectly. Well... why don't you? ;) Vids or it didn't happen.
 

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The irony is they are so focused on preaching they forget to just play. Nothing is stopping them from taking GW past what anyone has before, but they don't do it.

Any character can beat any character, that is common sense. GW can even 0-death many characters. That doesn't make him as good as Fox, sorry. Maybe if you played perfectly. Well... why don't you? ;) Vids or it didn't happen.
QFT!! I'm gonna practice w/ G&W and use him in my tourney tomorrow (of course, I have my Falco to back my G&W up...) I'm not sure how well I'll do, but it's fun, so what the hell?
 

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I know. I wish this would just get closed. First off, it's a topic that will never be resolved, for as long as there are a few zealots, they will never be fully converted to rationality. Game and Watch is bottom tier because PROFESSIONALS deem him to be so, not because of how he does in tournaments. The tiers are decided by the BRoomers.
You're actually wrong, the tier list is based on tourney results.
 

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WTF i hate topics like these

and i hate NOOBS like these

if they say you suck GIVE US A VIDEO LINK and we will tell you if you suck and if you dont but i think you do
 
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OP, ur probably losing because your friend is much better than u. Game and Watch isnt very good, and u cant deny that fact (well, u can, but then ud get run over by angry roosters).
 

NJzFinest

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Mr. Game and Watch is an African-American. Therefore, HAL gave him the lesser end.
 

DireVulcan

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Guys, GaW does suck...

His cons avalanche his pros.

If you're good enough you can be good with him.

Though at the end of the day, the character is trash.
 

NJzFinest

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Lol, takes 6 years from some people to realize how bad this character is.

Kinda knew he was bad before playing competitively, I mean, he's black.
 

Cinder

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Lol, takes 6 years from some people to realize how bad this character is.

Kinda knew he was bad before playing competitively, I mean, he's black.
Ummm...you're joking, right? Are you really that racist? And yes, I know G&W isn't that good, but look at Gimpy and Taj...hey, wait...when do you plan on updating that Falco finder?
 

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WG, no need to get snippy. Seriously, ask one of them. I just don't want people giving out misinformation. Sure, they affect it slightly, but they still build it based on tourney results.
 

alphameric

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gaw is inherently bad.
you shouldnt pick him up thinking you will win many games because that just doesnt happen very often.

to play gaw you CANT **** up or do the wrong move.
if you **** up and live, then your opponent is trash.
 

NJzFinest

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Ummm...you're joking, right? Are you really that racist?
I'M BLACK
And yes, I know G&W isn't that good, but look at Gimpy and Taj...
Taj uses Marth and Fox too...also, Gimpyfish and Taj don't place very high (especially Gimpy) in tournaments.
hey, wait...when do you plan on updating that Falco finder?
Never
NJ...racist...
I'm Haitian-American. My descendants are African slaves who where transported to the Haiti by the French (but later revolted and kicked the French out).
I'm black and proud beeeyyyotttcccchhhhhessss.
Go up to Dave Chappelle or ANY black comedian and tell him he's extremely racist against blacks since you think I am.

So anyways, HAL hates black people and made G&W terrible. I sent many letters to the creator and never received anything back ;_;
 

Cinder

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Soz, dude...but how was I supposed to know? My bad...

Taj uses Marth and Fox too...also, Gimpyfish and Taj don't place very high (especially Gimpy) in tournaments.
Didn't know that...glad I do now...

If you're serious, shouldn't you find someone else to run a new one? I'd be happy to do it...

I'm Haitian-American. My descendants are African slaves who where transported to the Haiti by the French (but later revolted and kicked the French out).
I'm black and proud beeeyyyotttcccchhhhhessss.
Go up to Dave Chappelle or ANY black comedian and tell him he's extremely racist against blacks since you think I am.

So anyways, HAL hates black people and made G&W terrible. I sent many letters to the creator and never received anything back ;_;
Yeah, sorry dude...the way you put it seemed like a mordant crack...I didn't know you were hating on HAL...soz, man...
 

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Holy **** Guys, I didnt no there was so much problems over this lol, I was just stating my opinion, I didnt know it would start a war. Obviously, if you test out all the stats and whatever, game and watch dosent stack up. BUT REALLY, WHO CARES ABOUT THAT? Its all about skill. I dont give a F**K if G&W sucks, But dont say he sucks unless you seen him at his full potential, thats all im saying. Its like saying in sports " O this team sucks cuz they dont stack up what so ever" but yet that team beats the better team. So even if it APPEARS they stink, dont talk sh*T about it, unless you know for sure. Im going to try to get a vid, or find someone who is amazing with G&W, so i can back this argument up. But really, I didnt want it to turn into an argument, just to find an opinon, i`ll get this thread deleted if u guys want.

Thanks for your time,
KingPop.
 
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Holy **** Guys, I didnt no there was so much problems over this lol, I was just stating my opinion, I didnt know it would start a war. Obviously, if you test out all the stats and whatever, game and watch dosent stack up. BUT REALLY, WHO CARES ABOUT THAT? Its all about skill. I dont give a F**K if G&W sucks, But dont say he sucks unless you seen him at his full potential, thats all im saying. Its like saying in sports " O this team sucks cuz they dont stack up what so ever" but yet that team beats the better team. So even if it APPEARS they stink, dont talk sh*T about it, unless you know for sure. Im going to try to get a vid, or find someone who is amazing with G&W, so i can back this argument up. But really, I didnt want it to turn into an argument, just to find an opinon, i`ll get this thread deleted if u guys want.

Thanks for your time,
KingPop.
Ummm, have u or your friend ever been to tournaments. Not dissing u if u havent, im just saying, the probably arent at G&W's full potential if they havent been to a tourney and dont know what a WD is (important for game and watch).
 
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