Patch 1.05 Analysis

[WolfieXVII ❂]

YUSSSSS you can share repla-
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[Deleted member]

I tested Diddy on Training. Welp, Hoo Hah is stayin' alive for now. Currently testing Dedede to see if there are any changes...

 

[Deleted member]

So can you now share replays using the share button?

 

[PadWarrior]

Any changes for Mario, Mega Man and Greninja?

 

[mario123007]

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It's quite good, but it's feels like it's gonna tired my 3DS, hope it can be much faster on the New 3DS
Already got some replays and snapshots on the Internet.

 

[Soul.]

Unchanged stuff:
- Sheik
- Pikachu
- Pit / Dark Pit
- Mario
- Luigi
- DK
- Wario
- Sonic
- Fox

Gonna try out Shulk and see if he recieved more percent buffs.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Falco's laser is exactly the same. Dair is 90% the same but it's harder to test. Tested with both 3DS at 1/4 speed.

90% the same?

 

[mario123007]

So can you now share replays using the share button?

Yes you can, you can even share your pics to Miiverse by just using 3DS.
But here a thing that you might need to aware, it seems that it will delete your pic that you send it to worldwide(Not to Miiverse nor friends) after 30 days, if I read it right.........

Any changes for Mario, Mega Man and Greninja?

It's gonna take a while to know

 

[Hellzsaint]

Did anyone test pac-man?

Who?

 

[rhysmorgan]

Solo mode has been changed; Now it only starts you off with one bot instead of 2.

This made me so happy.
It was such a bizarre decision to add 2 CPUs - either add just 1 or add 3, if you want to push 4 player Smash as the main thing.
I hope this means we're gonna get some more Single Player related patches at some point, but I don't think many other people really seem to care.
Smash 4 Single Player just pisses me off so much. The sheer volume of bull**** has increased so much.

 

[Deleted member]

Yes you can, you can even share your pics to Miiverse by just using 3DS.
But here a thing that you might need to aware, it seems that it will delete your pic that you send it to worldwide(Not to Miiverse nor friends) after 30 days, if I read it right.........

It's gonna take a while to know

Really?! Wow, that's amazing!

 

[Marcbri]

90% the same?

Like I could be wrong because it's harder to check, but I'm pretty sure there's no difference.

 

[UseHydroPimp]

Does links power bow still charge fast? on the Wii U it charges slow but not in 1.04 on 3DS

 

[MagiusNecros]

All Bowser mechanics seem to be unchanged. I dunno if you can't DI out of Bowser Bomb or not. I think the Lvl9 Sheik just opted to never DI. And I dunno if this is new but Grounded Fortress in the first half of the animation can clank out the Bomb Explosion thing Sheik has.

But I personally think nothing about Bowser has changed.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Is the Pac-Man infinite doubles recovery patched?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Like I could be wrong because it's harder to check, but I'm pretty sure there's no difference.

Hmm, seems to be the case then.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Does links power bow still charge fast? on the Wii U it charges slow but not in 1.04 on 3DS

This was my main qualm about Power Arrows. I hope they set it to the 3DS charging speed

 

[Furret]

Zelda love jumping
Zelda teleport canceling
Pally warp canceling

really doubt those cancels were removed buddy

 

[FlynnCL]

Could be entirely these CPU's suddenly being stupid, but can somebody who has access to an opponent / means of getting meteor smashed test something out for me.

Are you still capable of teching grounded meteor smashes?

 

[Ulevo]

Is this patch only for the 3DS version right now?

 

[TheHypnotoad]

Is this patch only for the 3DS version right now?

Seems so.

 

[Ulevo]

Seems so.

Then I think we should wait until this hits Wii U so we can properly test.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Is this patch only for the 3DS version right now?

It might be, we're not entirely sure on this.

I'm willing to bet if one is patched the other will follow suite shortly.

 

[Deleted member]

Is this patch only for the 3DS version right now?

For now, it looks like it. Haven't heard of a Wii U patch yet.

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I wonder if you can view replays sent by everyone.. or you can't?
Anyways, amiibo Tips are in the game, just like the Wii U version.

 

[Soul.]

More unchanged stuff:
- Shulk
- Ganondorf
- Bowser

Maybe it's just me but the Pikmin AI was changed.... Like if I'm using Side B away from the opponent the Pikmin comes back to Olimar. Did this happen on 1.0.4?

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

I'm just popping in here to say there is absolutely nothing different about Falco. At all.

If you can prove me wrong, great, but that's my finding so far. It's possible this only affects Mr. Hoo Hah and characters with "problem" techs.

 

[Virgule]

So i'm testing things in adventure mode and something seems weird : or i am lucky as hell or i can't unlock a custom move already unlocked. I'll do others runs till i can be sure of me maybe it's just luck for now...

 

[Nu~]

So i'm testing things in adventure mode and something seems weird : or i am lucky as hell or i can't unlock a custom move already unlocked. I'll do others runs till i can be sure of me maybe it's just luck for now...

Oh hell yes. Please

 

[Furret]

All Bowser mechanics seem to be unchanged. I dunno if you can't DI out of Bowser Bomb or not. I think the Lvl9 Sheik just opted to never DI. And I dunno if this is new but Grounded Fortress in the first half of the animation can clank out the Bomb Explosion thing Sheik has.

But I personally think nothing about Bowser has changed.

idk if the function is part of the training in 3ds or not, but if you need left or right DI out of a CPU putting them on walk usually works

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

More unchanged stuff:
- Shulk
- Ganondorf
- Bowser

Maybe it's just me but the Pikmin AI was changed.... Like if I'm using Side B away from the opponent the Pikmin comes back to Olimar. Did this happen on 1.0.4?

The pikmin AI thing was an issue stated before with the 3DS, they might have fixed it.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Link's Power Bow is unchanged...
Infijab however ;;

 

[Piford]

So far I'm checking mostly knockback stuff and only found 1 difference. Sonic's bthrow is killing Mario in training at 140% in 1.0.4 and at 142% in 1.0.5. I've tested this over 15 times so I'm pretty sure the nerf is real although killing just 2% later seems a bit random.\.

I think that might be a change to the knockback scaling of it, so it does less knockback at lower percents but similar at higher. It's likely due to Sonic being able to kill with it at rediculously low percents on stuff like the platform in Smashville. It could be possible that they saw this as a sort of "glitch" and changed it, not because Sonic is OP, but because it wasn't supposed to kill that early.

 

[ffdgh]

I....think they fixed being able to tech grounded meteor smashes. Usually the level 9 cpu does it constantly.

 

[Soul.]

Mega Man was left unchanged. Pretty sure Pac-Man was unchanged too.
edit: Meta Knight was left unchanged

 

[Nu~]

Mega Man was left unchanged. Pretty sure Pac-Man was unchanged too.

So the for glory infinite is still in?

 

[FlynnCL]

I....think they fixed being able to tech grounded meteor smashes. Usually the level 9 cpu does it constantly.

Yeah. I can't get even a single CPU to tech.

 

[Soul.]

So the for glory infinite is still in?

I dunno lol. Pretty sure the Wii U version doesn't have a new patch right now.

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

Any news regarding Fox? Is he unchanged?

 

[Soul.]

Any news regarding Fox? Is he unchanged?

Yes, Fox was unchanged. No changes.
Little Mac is unchanged.
Ness was unchanged too.

 

[dean.]

Checking with Link's Meteor Bombs. You can still tech if you get hit by a meteor when you're grounded.