Parachute Parade! - GnW Social Discussion

[sambo400]

^ ^ Me too

The key with judgment is this; You have to feel lucky

Also, we may be banning MK at my school, and I might finally get to TO this year.

 

[-Ominous-]

I never do ftilt on purpose, but it always hits.

Always.

^Yup, me too. I'm a fan of dash attack, and my controller doesn't like to run sometimes...so I end up f-tilting. But for whatever reason, it always hits.

 

[Heartstring]

dash attack is useful for the some purpose of dead cert spot dodge punishing, the hitbox lasts FOREVER

 

[Triforce Of Chozo]

I use ftilt to get people airdodging behind me.

 

[Alphicans]

dash attack is useful for the some purpose of dead cert spot dodge punishing, the hitbox lasts FOREVER

Dash attack is an amazing follow up for non-teched dthrow, and also for hitting tornado.

 

[Grey Belnades]

I like Game and Watch.

Join us. One of us, one of us.

 

[Makke]

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[Heartstring]

non teched dthrow? i prefer dtilt. but what kind of good player doesnt tech it?
still, the fact it hits tornado is cool, somethnig i need to keep in mind

 

[Alphicans]

Don't forget that teching it can be become predictable, so not teching it can actually become a good option for mix-ups. Dtilt is really good for characters that can't be dsmashed near the ledge, but dash attack is way better at low% no question about it.

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

So...Game and Watch can go under SV

But I bet everyone knew about this (useless piece of information)

 

[-LzR-]

It's awesome doing it. Ledgeboosted reverse bacon and then upB to the ledge. Too bad it's easily hogged.

 

[sambo400]

We banned him

 

[-Ominous-]

It's awesome doing it. Ledgeboosted reverse bacon and then upB to the ledge. Too bad it's easily hogged.

I think you can do it without ledgeboosted reverse bacon.

 

[Makke]

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[Grey Belnades]

So...Game and Watch can go under SV

But I bet everyone knew about this (useless piece of information)

Actually...I didn't.

 

[Triforce Of Chozo]

I couldn't get it with wavebounced bacon, but I could by airdodging through the ledge and just using jump and upb.

 

[Makke]

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[-LzR-]

Reverse Bacon makes it much more awesome.

 

[Heartstring]

shame i cant reverse bacon

 

[sambo400]

Can someone give me the Wolf match-up in a nutshell?

 

[Triforce Of Chozo]

Spacing spacing and more spacing

 

[Heartstring]

b-air match

 

[PixlFayc]

ive never had too much trouble with wolf, i find hes recoveries are really unreliable u can often get a sneeky ledge hang or even spike him off the ledge with the dash attack (classic old school game and watch tactics!)

but yeah back air is always a good option but make sure u fast fall and dont leave it too vulnerable, alot of good players know how to punish it between the last air hit and the landing hit so make sure it lands early. also dont be afraid to distance yourself by using the up b if they get in too close. its really brilliant for combos on game and watch it gives you spacing and doesnt leave u helpless like most recovery moves it can also chain well into and out of moves like neutral air, up b, then foward air or whatever the situation calls for , game and watch is brilliant for keeping the pressure on with multi hits and making the opponent losing balance with the air from up b and up air.

with wolf i guess keep them afraid to use the lazer but dont be too trigger happy with the bucket unless your safe as it does have some lag on release. also although back air is good, you need to vary your approaches, keep them guessing, try instead of spacing up b to "just hit them" try doing it all the way over them and landing the other side, this makes it harder for them to throw u out of there shield. also try mixing up with some down air but dont be obvious with it, try spacing tactics with neutral air as it is great for juggling specially as a follow up from up tilts etc

 

[sambo400]

Thanks for responding. Were having our bi-annual tournament at my school and since slim isn't coming + MK is banned I think I can do well, theres just 1 snake player who I know will **** me, and some mysterious wolf user I've never seen play who is supposed to be good.

The worst part about playing wolf is that his yelling gets annoying.

 

[-LzR-]

Do not attempt to punish Wolfs bair. You just can't simply go and shieldgrab him or beat it. It's a crazy move. It's safe even on a powershield.

 

[SFA Smiley]

Yeah Wolf is very deceptive. He looks like he'd be simple for GW but he's harder then he looks

 

[PixlFayc]

when ever your playing against wolf, listen out!! he keeps shouting for his gay lover "Raul!"

 

[Triforce Of Chozo]

I didn't think any single hit move was safe on PSC fire. Somebody should get together with a friend and see if it can be used to punish Wolf's bair. Just remember that you need tap jump on to do it.

 

[Heartstring]

you mean up-b OOS?
you dont need tap jump silly, you just need to be able to move from y to b pretty fast XD
also, being an aerial its hard to identify if its safe or not. if you his the floor exactly as the hitbox comes out then it should be safe
if we assume his b-air hitbox comes out and we powershield it, and then one frame later he lands:
his b-air landing lag is 8frames, plus 1 to put his own shield up
our up-b startup is 8 frames, plus at least one frame of the jump animation required to get us OOS
in the end, we go up and he powershields us. its safe on powershield. of course this is all assuming its done frame perfect, so theres a chance it could work if you fire! frame perfectly and he doesnt time his b-air perfectly. but its in his favour...just

 

[Alphicans]

Well you should be able to PS, shield DI into him and grab no matter what... Lol

 

[Heartstring]

grabs are a different matter entirely!

although i was fairly sure you couldnt powershield, shield DI and shieldgrab all within a single frame, if you can do it then kudos to you, but i know i would find it difficult to make myself press L, Left/Right And A all within a single frame.
infact is it even possible to do this anyway? im still sure that you can shield DI a powershield
screw physics

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INiAf8Uy8Pg&feature=feedu

It seems a new Game and Watch form Japan has been posted vs. Brood, amazing match.

 

[SFA Smiley]

Where's the Brood match? Man he was playing so well against those ICs, too.

 

[sambo400]

It turns out the wolf was a scrub so I didn't get to hear about Raul after all.

 

[PixlFayc]

haha, and raul doesnt want no scrub..

 

[sambo400]

There still appears to be much I don't understand about snakes utilt :/

 

[Heartstring]

>implying you can understand snake's U-tilt

its an anomaly of life sambo. just dont bother trying to get near it once within kill range, it outranges nair so yeah, you ****ed once you go above 100%

 

[sambo400]

I guess the only way to recover against is from directly under the ledge, I though a slight angle would work but not if hes facing you.

 

[Heartstring]

you get edgeguarded with utilt?
if you ledge sweetspot it will be fine, jsut get up before your invincibility runs out

 

[PixlFayc]

yeah, ledge is one of those classic rock paper scissor moments, you can either plain ledge atk which will normally give you enough invincibiltiy to not get hit, but u will get throw if they see it coming, if u expect a throw then go for the ledge jump into an air move,which will leave u open to atks but punish a throw, or if u know they gonna ledge guard, do a ledge drop the and immediate jump up and use neutral air which will atk there feet through the bottom of the stage, or even use judge if ur feeling lucky, follow this up with a parachute and glide safely back to stage