Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

[BarDulL]

I'll leave that up to WIFOM for now.



Nah.

John, if you're town, quit being a ****ing moron and CLAIM.

 

[CT Chia]

Jesus Christ chill and wait for Pierce

 

[BarDulL]

I know, but John has been pissing me off all game. Totally useless and does absolutely nothing all game. Never going to play a game with him again if he keeps this up.

 

[John2k4]

I'd rather not claim right now. maybe later toDay or toMorrow.

Chill them pockets, BarBell.

 

[CT Chia]

John, I do hope you realize that you have done literally nothing this whole game right?

 

[John2k4]

Yep.

 

[CT Chia]

So why is that?

 

[John2k4]

Not too sure. Just couldn't immerse myself into the game. =(

 

[CT Chia]

Give a better answer.

 

[John2k4]

Guys I want to talk to someone other than Chibo.


Please?

 

[BarDulL]

Can someone link the picture of the stick figure guy who is looking at a computer, then transforms into a gorilla and smashes the computer?

Anyway, I think I'm starting to get John. Unfortunately, that doesn't make him any more tolerable, but I think he's Town.

 

[CT Chia]

@Mod: Please tell Pierce that the game is up lol

 

[frozenmarsh751]

massclaim...meh. i feel like i know what everyones gonna claim anyway. wuddya think frozen?

 

[CT Chia]

What reasons do you have for potentially not wanting to?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Just lost the post. Gogdamn. Here's the short version.

FULL DISCLOSURE:

I am Bow, Town Jailer
I'm a Boo and I can use my ghostly powers to protect town
My ability is called 'Out of Sight'

Each night I can target one player with my ability to:
Stop that player being killed in the night
Stop that player from using any abilities in the night
but I can't target myself

this is all paraphrase, my own words, but the meaning should be exactly as it is in my PM e.g. it stops them from using abilities

Night 1 I target frozen/marshy
Night 2 I target frozen/marshy
Night 3 I target J, and I have received confirmation that my ability was successful

Also I allude to my role towards end of D1, crumb my N1 target start of D2, first post, capital letters.

I think that's everything.

 

[CT Chia]

I feel like I asked this, but I forget. What were your intentions of jailing Marshy, more for protective or roleblocking effects?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

You did ask this already
I jailed marshy because I wanted to protect someone who seemed town;
Night 1
My options were more or less marshy, OS, J and Seph;
Seph I left in the hope of evaluating his claim, OS I left because I got PR vibes, J I left because I got scum vibes. Ergo, jailing marshy.
Night 2
Marshy demanded a protect, but I mentioned that I ought to WIFOM between Pierce Bardull in order to try and push the night kill onto someone inactive or Seph/J. Protected marshy.
Night 3
Jailed J as requested, and as he's very likely scum

 

[CT Chia]

Ok cool I understand

 

[BarDulL]

Sounds good.

J, what's the story? Do you have mod confirmation that your ability went through or what?

 

[Inferno3044]

J (1) Kary
John2k4 (0)
Pierce7d (0)
Chibosempai (0)
BarDulL (0)
Kary (0)
Frozenmarsh751 (0)

Not voting: J, John, Pierce, Chibo, Bardull, Fmrash

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch.


Pierce has been texted.

 

[Pierce7d]

I tracked Bardull, he did nothing. Of course, this was rather useless information, as I there was no night kill.

I think J is probably scum, but I'd rather run back the no lynch, and MIMIC the night actions, so I can confirm Kary Jailer. If he targets J, and J lives, this means he is very likely really a jailer. He can't be a role-blocker, because we already killed a role-blocker.

One thing did catch my eye. Kary, you specifically said you got MOD confirmed that your power worked last Night, but not against Marshy?

I'll be back soon with my crumbs. There's a lot D1 and D2

 

[Pierce7d]

Also, my bad for taking long, normally you guys take much longer to send in night actions.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

This Day I specifically asked the mod for confirmation, which I received.

I didn't ask for confirmation for my Night 1/Night 2 actions.
I can do that if you like but I took it as read that they succeeded.

Also that would support my claim, Pierce, but still doesn't 100% clear me as a jailer or as town.
I'd be well up for it except for the part where it might give scum another chance to night kill someone (we don't know for sure what happened last night).

I'd rather just lynch J to be honest; apparently his claim contradicts mine. Oh and he's scum.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I really need to work on my tone in these games. I'm so... bitter?
the point is, IMO J lynch toDay > no lynch toDAy
Then I'd jail Chibo I imagine and you can track me.

 

[Pierce7d]

Aight, I stopped reading where I stopped quoting, although something I said in D2 makes me feel more comfortable. The fact that J has been waking up each Day while he's been this "obv town" and Marshy has been protected is pretty suspicious in itself. We have never WIFOMed protection onto him, and he's been one of the more vocal players, so why has he not been hit. Marshy is terrified of getting killed, but J has been chillin. I also don't like how he was reluctant to the idea of getting jailed at first. Why would a pro-town player mind being jailed when we have a NA plan to win the game, and it would clear him . . .

Vote: No lynch.

Anyways, as promised, here are the crumbs till I got bored of finding them. For those less familiar with the flavor, Kolorado is a koopa troopa who lives in Koopa Village, but also serves as a comic relief character, because he is an archaeologist who appears in Chapter 2 and Chapter 5

Additionally, it's easier for me to make objective reads day 2 if I haven't created any Day 1 bias. Knowing I don't have any imperial data, it does not make sense for me to start tunneling someone now and mess up my read later. There is already enough pressure being applied in the game that I can simply make 3rd party reads off of that for now, until I have more data. I'd rather not be distracting by using my subpar skills and shooting in the dark. I'm less of a detective in this game who likes to actively inquire, force scum slips, and create new data to go off of, and more of an archaeologist who likes to read and reread and dig out the truth from data created in the past, like previous posts and flips.

Massive, massive day one crumb. As any player who has played with me before (Bardull is the only one left alive I think) knows, I don't use flavor to scum hunt, but I LOVE using flavor to crumb, and I like leaving lots of flavor crumbs.

Also, Seph, Day 1 was fun, but I'm a bit done being a sheep. Like I promised, I'll be making reads of my own now. It's about time for me to come out of my shell and explore the world a bit, you know?

key word "explore" will appear a lot, because that is what Kolorado does. The reference of a shell is also to a koopa.

Hmm . . . I'd prefer not to die just yet. Doc on me please.

The most obvious soft-claim of all time.

I personally wanna explore these claims a bit. It's just how I play mafia.

And I guess it's fine J. After all, I'm happily married (kinda). My girlfriend is gonna start complaining that I need to spend less time playing mafia and more time hanging out with her, even though she just sits home all day.

Marshy you can hold that **** bro, you're just mad cause you don't want Sang to claim. =P

Kolorado's is always at home in Koopa Village, and is always upset because her husband is always off exploring. Talking to her prompts her to ask Mario to send Kolorado home.

J, that Koopa is Kent C Koopa, and he's very easy to kill. You just have to jump on him and then you can target his tail which has no defense points. Couple that with the fact that he's suceptible to sleep effects, and you can just use lullabye to K.O. him without him getting any actions. His only purpose is to stop me from getting back to Koopa Village.

I was answering J's very odd question about Kent C. Koopa. My crumb here is that you encounter Kent C. Koopa after you complete Chapter 5 (Yoshi's Island) and Kolorado cannot get home because Kent C. is blocking the path. I did not say prevent Mario from going down Pleasant Path. I specifically said me, as in Kolorado, since Kolorado stays in Toad Town until Kent C. is defeated.

That can be circumvented by going through toad town tunnels then, but he's also a good source of Star Points for Mario.

I then go as far as to point out that MARIO can go around Kent C. Koopa. I specifically say Mario instead of "me" here, since I am Kolorado.

You're right OS. That's pretty funny. If Adumb killing you wasn't ultimately funnier, this would've been the most hilarious thing so far. Oh well chap.

Ninja is immune to Tracker and Watcher

I double crumb here. Kolorado frequently calls Mario "chap". I also point out the power of Ninja. Although someone asked, the question was answered, and I answered it again.

Celine would never vote for me. Well, I suppose she can get pretty upset with me sometimes when I don't pay enough attention to her, but it's cause she loves me.

Very minor crumb, again, Kolorado's Wife is always complaining that he's never home.

J, Marshy help me analyze this. He towned the me, Seph, OS voteblock. Me and OS I have for confirmed town, and Seph is very likely town, so he didn't actually try and hide his scum bros in this I don't think. Worth digging into?

Minor crumb. Archaeologist's dig, so I was particular with my wording here. I started throwing a lot of minor crumbs like this around, since I thought some of my other crumbs were really blatant, especially since I go REALLY heavy into Flavor, but no one thought it was odd at all . . . =(

If Rajam would post like a boss toDay, I'd actually stick my neck out for keeping him alive tomorrow.

Minor crumb. Koopas are protected by hiding in their shells, so I used the particular wording of "sticking my neck out"

Haha, not more bombtastic than my next door neighbor Overswarm! =P
May his fuse remain ever lit =(

RIDICULOUSLY OBVIOUS CRUMB. In Koopa Village, all of the good Bomb-Ombs you free in from Koopa Bros. Fortress in Chapter 1 take up residence in Kooper's House, which is RIGHT NEXT DOOR to Kolorado's House.

 

[Pierce7d]

I did not have any reasons to heavily crumb Tracker, because I had not hit any great results. When I tracked J to Seph's dead body, I just outright claimed. Me and J going from super buddy one day to me gunning him the next day wouldn't work out, and I had to obviously substantiate my suspicions.

 

[BarDulL]

Gonna wait for J to confirm that he did in fact receive mod confirmation that his ability went through.

 

[Pierce7d]

Kary, idk if I was jailed or not because of the fact my fortune telling went through. So can you confirm that you targetted me last night?

I'd rather J answers how his claim was supposed to clear him.

But yes, of course I jailed J

Kary, can you go into like really full detail how your Jailing works?

No.

Stop appealing to your incredibly implausible claim, please.

...? It's just a simple question Kary. I am honestly just trying to figure out how the hell my FT went through.

Bardull, is that really necessary, or are we just seeing if Inferno made an error?

 

[CT Chia]

Pierce do u think we should mass claim today or not?

 

[BarDulL]

Bardull, is that really necessary, or are we just seeing if Inferno made an error?

If Inferno didn't make an error, then there is a blaring problem that needs to be resolved.

 

[Pierce7d]

This is true Bardull.

Chibo, at this point, I kinda like the idea that there are powers floating around that Mafia doesn't know about because it means that while we're sitting out here working in the light, we might have additionally useful agents behind the scenes.

I heavily feel scum is between J and Kary, leaning J, so I don't think it's necessary to mass claim. If someone has helpful information then they should possible claim to bring it to the light, but so far we've only mislynched vanilla townies and the night kills landed on the Bomb and the already expired vigilante.

Bardull, I agree. The fact that I tracked J once and caught him visiting Seph means he must visit someone. I don't know why J would receive a confirm on his power though if he was jailed. I don't know why he'd lie about it either. Neither town nor scum benefits from that lie.

Kary is in the same predicament. He knew that J was going to use his Night Action, because he'd be testing the bars. Of course, the idea that Kary is scum and is lying, and could not think of a way out of his lie makes much more sense, because Kary has a reason to lie as scum. As town, he'd have no reason to lie.

 

[Inferno3044]

J (1) Kary
John2k4 (0)
Pierce7d (0)
Chibosempai (0)
BarDulL (0)
Kary (0)
Frozenmarsh751 (0)

No Lynch (1): Pierce

Not voting: J, John, Chibo, Bardull, Fmrash

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

 

[Pierce7d]

Is J good enough to anticipate this as a reason to lie, so that we lynch off Kary toDay? Or I could say screw all this WIFOM and lynch J. That's what Rajam said to do, and I'm sure Seph would agree.

 

[Pierce7d]

Inferno, I might be mistaken, but I believe Marshy is also voting no lynch.

 

[Pierce7d]

I really don't want Kary/John to reach LYLO though. I would've rather taken Sang or Rajam over Kary/John.

And of COURSE J clears the most useless player ever. I swear, this is sounding more and more like the pro scum strat. Claim you get 1 shot cop, clear someone you know isn't scum and is also useless. Appear more townie, waste our time, generate WIFOM and spread FUD.

PRO

 

[#HBC | Kary]

For the record, still not 100% on what J was doing yesterday.

Kary, it was a bluff to add onto the BP claim in order to get the mafia to hopefully target me in order to through some WIFOM onto my claim. I mean in my mind, I should be cleared by actions alone but the fact is, I picked Adumb to be FT'd N1, I can't be on the same mafia team as someone I FT'd because that doesn't make sense.

I can understand that, as BP, you'd want to bluff. But then why'd you say this:

Yes marshy, it will clear me as town.

@Bardull: It isn't a confidence thing (even though I am a low-self esteem type of guy). The reason I am contemplating claiming is because it makes me clear but at the same time, I won't be touched by mafia at all.

Which strongly implied to me you were BP or bomb or similar.

Also, I still don't understand how this:

So you think Seph is SK because of Adumb's death? Tbh, I dont really see that.

Though I can garuntee he is not BP if he is SK.

Fits into your claim? Really confused about what you're trying to bluff you are, here.

Am I really the only one who found that gem w.r.t. John?

Also, this still throws me for a loop. The way you word this does not suggest to me that this is you crumbing a result on John etc.

* * *

Would really like to lynch J. He flips town, John is clear, I jail Chibo, Pierce tracks me.
J flips scum, hooray. Same night actions I guess if the game continues.

 

[Pierce7d]

Heads up. I'm travelling to OH today. I'll be checking in from my phone, but probably not heavy posting. I'd appreciate it if we didn't hammer or hang the rope until tomorrow. Thanks.

 

[Pierce7d]

While we're point out inconsistencies, I'd like to know why you don't know what power you're getting next time, but you did on Day1 and Day2? I'm really not seeing it that you knew you were gonna get Cop or Bulletproofing, but now you don't know what you're gonna get.

 

[Pierce7d]

The only thing I'm truly worried about is that if I track you, J flips town, and non-Kary scum lynches me, you will be lynched tomorrow and the trail goes dead cold.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

night-kills you you mean?
Well J's town flip would clear John, my jail basically clears Chibo and that leaves marshy/bardull;
which is why I think it's very unlikely to happen. We could still win from there as well, given 1 scum remaining.