Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

[#HBC | J]

I thought about that, but you were prompted by Seph IIRC. I have to look back and check.

Nope. I can drag up the quotes myself.

 

[CT Chia]

My fortune telling went through...but it said I was wrong...

I am honestly don't know how if I was jailed so I want to know who exactly Kary jailed.

Ok good, that's what I was trying to get at. Sorry for the obvious questions and prying with vagueness, I was just trying to figure out if your Night Action succeeded.

Kary, speak up now. Who did you jail?

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Bardull, idc about your or Ronike or w/e but tbh J is the most "cleared" by Ronike, he was the first to lay a vote down on Ronike and completely got the wagon moving from that. You or Kary could have EASILY been lynched instead.

 

[BarDulL]

You were asked to claim, and you said you don't have to claim yet and you didn't. Yet you asked Ronike to claim multiple times on the same day...

You're not technically mega-cleared, as much as I believe you're not scum. However, I'm sure you can see why I would want you to be one of the first to claim when you're at L-1 and didn't claim, yet wanted other people to right? As long as you're not scum, there's nothing to hide.

Me being asked to claim has nothing to do with asking Ronike to claim, Cheebs. Secondly, dude I'm wtf mega cleared, Ronike got MEGA salty and tried killing my slot hardcore, then tried to make me look bad at the end LOL. There's no room for error on this.

 

[CT Chia]

Although really no one is "completely" cleared right now, just saiyan.

 

[#HBC | J]

*cough* 'Cept John and Pierce *cough*

 

[CT Chia]

It's just semantics Bardull, stop being so defensive lol. We're all going to claim, and I would prefer that someone who was at L-1 and stayed alive without claiming be one of the first to claim, that's it.

 

[#HBC | J]

Bardull, I agree with Chibo, it's completely logical to have you claim first with how the game went. And to be fair, if Kary didn't claim on D2, he'd probably be a first candidate to claim toDay as well.

 

[#HBC | J]

Oh I have a theory as to what happened last night but I just need Kary to confirm he jailed me.

 

[BarDulL]

J, I pretty much don't care what you have to say right now, sorry brah.

Chibo, not getting defensive, actually I'm being kinda aggressive. I'm going last.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Bardull claims after Chibo, no compromises

Chibo
John
Bardull
Marshy

would be my preferred order.

J, you just said your fortune tell went through and that you were jailed. What are you on about?

 

[#HBC | J]

I defend you this entire game and you repay me with ignorance.

C'est la vie

 

[#HBC | J]

Kary, idk if I was jailed or not because of the fact my fortune telling went through. So can you confirm that you targetted me last night?

 

[BarDulL]

Reasoning: J visits Seph, claims a role that never actually cleared him, tries gambiting my slot on the pretense that he was trying to clear me (but...I don't see how this makes sense?) You played really well on D1 but your slot is wtf'ing me right now. Hope you understand. If not, too bad.

 

[#HBC | J]

I do semi-understand, the logic just doesn't make sense and is not logical at all. You aren't considering all the options/what actually happened.

S'okay though.

 

[BarDulL]

Bardull claims after Chibo, no compromises

Chibo
John
Bardull
Marshy

would be my preferred order.

J, you just said your fortune tell went through and that you were jailed. What are you on about?

Did you jail J?

 

[BarDulL]

I do semi-understand, the logic just doesn't make sense and is not logical at all. You aren't considering all the options/what actually happened.

S'okay though.

It's logical to be suspicious of your slot, quit being ignorant.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I'd rather J answers how his claim was supposed to clear him.

But yes, of course I jailed J

 

[BarDulL]

This might just be easy breezy then.

Lynching J confirms Town John, we jail Chibo, the rest is obvious.

 

[BarDulL]

Assuming J flips town, which he probably won't.

 

[#HBC | J]

It's logical to be suspicious of your slot, quit being ignorant.

No it really isn't when compared with my play+WHY I did what I did. You aren't realizing that my role HAS to be seen visiting the dead body so regardless of me being there or not.

I'd rather J answers how his claim was supposed to clear him.

But yes, of course I jailed J

Kary, it was a bluff to add onto the BP claim in order to get the mafia to hopefully target me in order to through some WIFOM onto my claim. I mean in my mind, I should be cleared by actions alone but the fact is, I picked Adumb to be FT'd N1, I can't be on the same mafia team as someone I FT'd because that doesn't make sense.

Now I need to think about how my FT went through

 

[#HBC | J]

Kary, can you go into like really full detail how your Jailing works?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

No.

Stop appealing to your incredibly implausible claim, please.

 

[BarDulL]

No it really isn't when compared with my play+WHY I did what I did. You aren't realizing that my role HAS to be seen visiting the dead body so regardless of me being there or not.



Kary, it was a bluff to add onto the BP claim in order to get the mafia to hopefully target me in order to through some WIFOM onto my claim. I mean in my mind, I should be cleared by actions alone but the fact is, I picked Adumb to be FT'd N1, I can't be on the same mafia team as someone I FT'd because that doesn't make sense.

Now I need to think about how my FT went through

You're a good player and you know how to play the game. You have gold dice. It isn't beyond you to play like you did on D1.

You can't prove that you FT'd Adumb, why are you bringing it up?

Also, you still haven't explained why you pretended to have a town investigation on my slot. Makes NO sense.

Still ok with your lynch. We're pretty much guaranteed to win at this point with mod confirmed information that John is town. What are you scared of?

 

[#HBC | J]

...? It's just a simple question Kary. I am honestly just trying to figure out how the hell my FT went through.

 

[CT Chia]

Bardull claims after Chibo, no compromises

Chibo
John
Bardull
Marshy

would be my preferred order.

Uhhhh what? lol

 

[BarDulL]

Uhhhh what? lol

I'm a boss hog gangsta, since when do you think you have the privilege to be in front of me anyhow?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

J, I really don't believe you are, and even if you are, nothing in my role description is going to explain how your role works.

 

[CT Chia]

This might just be easy breezy then.

Lynching J confirms Town John, we jail Chibo, the rest is obvious.

What if John is a God Father?

 

[#HBC | J]

@Bardull: I did explain why I picked you, in largesse detail:

Bardull, it is called "Closing loose ends." I knew who I wanted to lynch coming into toDay's Day-phase which was Rajam so that would take care of that loose end. You were the only read I was questioning, especially with a Seph town flip toDay. Chibo is someone I feel is much townier than you in this game where D1 you were obv-town, but then during the process of D2, you and Chibo switched, especially when I investigated John and got an innocent. What I was looking for you in terms of results was that I wanted you to try and actually do things and not sit back in the background which you did D3 and only came in to chime in and vote/say something minimal then leave. After the pressure went away from you D1, you faded into the background. Now that D3 is here, when I said that I cleared you as town, you just came into the thread saying "cool" and then left. But then when I said that I had faked the investigation on you, you say "WTf J, you are looking suspicious now." which gave me a reaction of "....?" more of a null-scum read in terms of you just wanting to go with whatever floated you a bit further into the game. The thing I didn't like about your reaction to my claim was the fact that you had no problem with being cleared but if I had used you in order to possible garner a response out of you and others, it turns into making me look more suspicious. You have completely stopped looking at me for what I Have done in the game but tried to hone in on the sole fact of my claim and have turned into Pierce's #1 cheerleader in the senses of his J suspicion he has ON LOGIC THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE (sorry it's late and I am getting annoyed that nothing Pierce found about me was scummy nor incriminating especially with the way I claimed and everything, like my goodness this is getting me a little irritated on the sole fact that people are actually considering lynching me off the fact of me FT'ing Seph last night. The only ones who do not think the previous action was scummy was Marshy/John/Chibo) However, back on topic, the reason I wanted to try and test you Bardull was to see how you would react to be being cleared/over not being cleared which is something similar I did in KvD mafia where I used my cop clear on someone else(Sworddancer) to nail Swiss(final scum) on D2. I mean I cannot put into more words that it was just a gambit and my final card I had left after Pierce jumped the gun and forced most of my hand out into the open where the only card I had left was my freaking gambit I had pulled on both you+John since D2. I mean at this point at night I am running on fumes to try and get it into you twos heads that I am not scum and nothing I have done w.r.t. this claim have been scummy nor out of character for how my play has been. You guys just think as such because you are running on this conspiracy theory that I might very possibly be Mafia which does not make sense at all with my play when talking about Ronike and also the fact that I FT'd ADUMB (who was mafia, I know this is only a glaring point through my eyes but seriously?) Bardull, I was purely looking for the intent of your posts and see what you were going to do with what I was executing with my plan, especially since Seph had a continuous scum-read on you since D1 even though he recanted it a bit. There was no one else I could possibly gambit on either because Rajam is caught up in catch-up land OR the simple fact that he is scum and we are all just wringing each others necks over a game that could very well be over just by Rajam's lynch. If it isn't we have a plan that keeps Marshy alive till endgame, and it gives me/Pierce opportunities to investigate. In fact, we should probably mass-claim in order to find out if we have any more PRs that could possibly also help us figure this mess out. Though if Rajam claims PR, there is like little that can do to save him from being lynched toDay. I really do not know how to explain this more clearly, the reason I gambitted on you was to figure out exactly what happens and I feel that if the 5% chance that Rajam does not flip mafia, I could have a better read on your slot. However, I would still lynch Kary>You, but I would lynch you>Chibo. But I would lynch Chibo>John. Like this game is just driving me insane because it should be over after Rajam. If not, sh*t is about to get completely annoying. I would much rather Kary be tracked so I know for certain what goes on and it will also settle my stomach in terms of whether he is scum or not. Plus scum would have to decide between Me/Pierce in order to get a PR out of Kary. I don't know I need to think about the possibility of Kary being tracked, when I would rather it probably be used on Bardul/Chibo and have the other one jailed. That could probably work and we get the best of both worlds in this scenario. I mean what is there to lose in that one? We may lose a Marshy in the mix but if we get a Definite on one of Chibo/Bardull then we may be so much better even if we do lose one of Kary/Pierce in the mix because I can possibly get a FT on one of them if I guess right.

I would actually much prefer that when thinking things in greater detail. Kary can jail one of Chibo/Bardull. Pierce can track one of Bardull/Chibo and then we will have a clear on one of slots even if one of Kary/Pierce die. The more I think about this plan the more I like it more and more because it has like a 0% fail. Yes, we should and are doing this. I will probably FT Pierce because from no matter what the standpoint, if whoever Pierce tracks will be visiting Kary even if Kary is killed which nets us the final scum. If Pierce is killed, then the one person Kary is jailing is clear. That leaves it down to one person being the person.

I want Kary to jail Chibo, Pierce to track Bardull and I will FT Pierce.

Okay I think that's enough of my rantings for the night. I am literally writing this while I am half-asleep/laying on my laptop and just letting my mind vent while I try and sort this mess out and win us the game in the off-chance Rajam doesn't flip scum. If Rajam does flip scum, I wasted all my time and it is now 3 in the morning but whatever, it's done now.

I hope that explains everything, I'm heading to sleep now.

The rest of your points have already been explained or are just silly "Me being good player = why I survived D1".

 

[BarDulL]

I thought about it, but this is a Tracker set up with Mafia ninja.

 

[BarDulL]

@Bardull: I did explain why I picked you, in largesse detail:



The rest of your points have already been explained or are just silly "Me being good player = why I survived D1".

God, that is the most disgusting wall to look at.

You cited your play as an example of why you should be cleared, but I responded with "you're good enough to play like that." No problem with that.

 

[BarDulL]

Anywho, still up for a J lynch. J, shaddup already and sit in a corner.

 

[CT Chia]

J, you need to PM the mod and confirm again that your fortune tell indeed went through.

Kary, you need to PM the mod and confirm that your jailing when through.

The only possible outcome of this is that either Kary was roleblocked or one of them is lying. The mafia roleblocker is dead. This means if the mod didn't f up then one of them is lying and we're lynching one of them today. God where is Pierce.

Thoughts on stuff Marshy?

 

[#HBC | J]

I only cited the example about my play as to why I should be cleared because you did the very same thing yourself, Bardull.

I know it's a digusting wall, I even commented that it was horribly written because of what hour it was.

And no I won't be quiet and I'll try figuring it out.

 

[BarDulL]

I only cited the example about my play as to why I should be cleared because you did the very same thing yourself, Bardull.

I know it's a digusting wall, I even commented that it was horribly written because of what hour it was.

And no I won't be quiet and I'll try figuring it out.

Fine, but no funny business regarding you trying to squirm out of a potential lynch.

In fact, assume you're going to be lynched today. Also, assume I'm town along with Pierce and Kary. Who's the last mafia?

And I didn't cite MY play as an example, I cited RONIKE'S interaction with my slot.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Vote: J

I think I'll leave it up to marshy as to whether we mass claim today.

@Chibo: If you wanted, I'm sure you could PM the mod and ask if all night actions went through properly.

 

[#HBC | J]

I don't think one of me or Kary has to be lying but I doubt I can convince town otherwise.

Vote: J

Let's go, lynch me, lynch Kary/Bardull-Chibo *whoever is cleared by Pierce* and the game should still be over even with my town-flip. I can't really do anything to stop this lynch and there is logical reasoning for me being lynched after the No NK so I guess I'm fine with being lynched, it's just I don't want to haha. Oh wellz.

 

[BarDulL]

@Mod - Can you confirm that all game mechanic information was sent correctly during the night assuming there was game mechanic information to be sent?

 

[#HBC | J]

Well wait, no one is cleared by toNight's action due to No NK. Regardless, you can still win with a John+Pierce clear. Marshy is cleared if Kary is actually a jailer.

 

[BarDulL]

Did not expect the self vote. D:. Be still, my heart.

And sorry J, but that's how its gotta be. Your claim was like ew gross wtf bbq and it's suspicious and blah blah blah and you visiting Seph jesus.

But we need to wait for Marsh, so no quick lynching yet.

Also need to decide on how night actions are going through.