Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

[Pierce7d]

Marshy, to be frank, we don't care. If scum is dumb enough to kill you where there are very threatening power-roles floating around, we are going to win.

 

[Pierce7d]

I don't like how Marshy is getting super self preservative all of a sudden, when we have a very amazing NA plan laid out, and a really large advantage.

 

[Rajam]

so much for me going to sleep

i actually mean it this time. likin sephs list except that i think bardulls town. might just have to sacrifice that townread

j where is that kary case? it gives me slight pause that you neglected that as soon as me/seph/os suggested a plan that gives you a pass til like endgame

anyways ill post more in a few hours. cant believe im saying this but dont ****ing lynch anyone til me/seph can work something out

only downside to plans

1. seph is actually sk. town can worry about this later tho. btw seph you DID claim bulletproof earlier. ill look for it later

2. scum have a hitman who can kill through protections meaning seph would die. just a risk town has to take and well do it the old fashioned way if necessary

scum if you kill me/seph you have no balls and admit that yourerecinsider garbage at mafia forever. dont kill us please thanks

marshy don't let it goooo

I cannOt believe I am attempting this on an iPhone but here it goes because Kary's last post just is getting me fired up.

Kary has absolutely no care as to who we lynch toDay, as long as it is not him. He has been solely appealing to the other wagons and pushing them just to get people off his own backside toDay. He says he has Bardull as scum but his last post is him looking for a way to backdoor out of that read and try and hop onto Ronike (who can also die, I just feel more strongly about Kary with the way he is playing toDay)

Kary has literally stopped almost all forms of scumhunting in order for him to do two things:

1.) Appeal to the opposing Bardull/Ronike wagons.
2.) Use FUD in an attempt to dispell his wagon.

He has not even combated the major points against him lately and instead he uses the point of saying things like "don't lynch me guys, it'd be bad" or my favorite "so everyone finds me scummy right? What's the point?" because it just shows his motive. it's purely for survival and not for finding scum. From the very beginning he has been fake when he was doing that "case" thing with Sang which looked more like an attempt for him to join Adumb if he did push Sang more but if Adumb backed out (which happened) Kary was able to say that it was all a rouse and that he did it for a reaction on Sang, but he never even went fully into detail with it not did he try to get more reaction out of Sang, he just let it sit. However I would like to make a point here, I will be fair and say that I could see the town intent from Kary's posts at this time in the game but it just looks so poor/scummy that it's like 80-20 in the ratio of scumminess to towniness.

His case on Bardull was weak but the thing is, he was forced to make that case on him so I really cannot go too too much into it without stretching things.

Speaking of which, I am going in on the Bardull thing right now if I have time. Okay, there is no case on Bardull and let's look at the wagon.

Seph, no case and purely just pushing him at this point to get his way over myself/marshy. He has even when aske to provide reasonings, he's pushed it over to Kary's case, who is one of his scum-reads. I will quote when I get home but Seph has 0% explanation for his Bardull read besides just calling him scum.

pierce is on it for purely being in the alliance for toDay's sake. (totally think he should join me/marshy over Seph but eeeeh what do?)

OS just wants BArdull lynched because he does not agree to his logic and has gotten this mentality that it is great to lynch Bardull for every reason like he is scummy and anti-town which is not at all the case because unlike a good majority of the players this game, Bardull has been entering himself into the fray and also has been scum-hunting on people.

I see no reason to believe Bardull as scum because no one has pointed out why he is scummy in detail or not been entirely vague about it. He is pro-town at the moment and makes a terrible D1 lynch over people like Kary/Ronike/Rajam. Heck, if it came down to it, I'd lynch Chibo over Bardull even though I dislike lynching inactives over actively scummy people.

Okay I am at the place where I need to be so I will try to continue this later but here it is.

This was for you marsh because I shouldn't have waited and this seriously needs to be pushed.

Poor case on Kary, because J doesn't even relate to Kary's intentions, just only as how Kary has being all AtE regarding his wagon, which is either just anti-town, null, or actually even a town-tell for newb players. Regarding the case on Sang, that's a reach: you said he let it sit, meanwhile I could argue he just let it go. Overall, J just throws a list of anti-town attitudes but doesn't make the conection in how those attitudes are actually scummy, because there is not an analysis of Kary's intentions.

 

[Pierce7d]

I mean, I'm obviously going to die. I'm the tracker. There is a reasonable chance that I will pick out scum toNight.

 

[CT Chia]

Marshy, to be frank, we don't care. If scum is dumb enough to kill you where there are very threatening power-roles floating around, we are going to win.

I don't like how Marshy is getting super self preservative all of a sudden, when we have a very amazing NA plan laid out, and a really large advantage.

These are both my thoughts exactly. That's why I'm wondering your so needed to be preserved Marshy when we have PRs floating around that, even though contain less of a bro factor as you, have the powers that will ultimately win us the game.

I'm surprised you don't recognize this.

 

[CT Chia]

I mean, I'm obviously going to die. I'm the tracker. There is a reasonable chance that I will pick out scum toNight.

Just track whoever you most feel you'll get that final scum result out of that isn't J since he's going to be jailed.

 

[Inferno3044]

J (2) Rajam, Kary
Rajam (5) fmarsh, J, Pierce, Bardull, Chibo
John2k4 (0)
Pierce7d (0)
Chibosempai (0)
BarDulL (0)
Kary (0)
Frozenmarsh751 (0)

Not voting: John

A lynch has been reached! Flip incoming soon.

@Pierce - join OS All Stars! I actually wanna play a game of mafia with you.

 

[Inferno3044]

Night 3 Begins!

The town moved rather swiftly to determine their candidate for death today. Although some people thought that he was bright and had good intention, he didn't shine at the right times. Some looked like they didn't want this Sparky lynched, but what's done is done.

Rajam, Watt, Vanilla Townie has been lynched!

It is now Night 3! Please send your actions in by 6/23 at 11:59PM EST.

 

[CT Chia]

Everyone post your night actions fast, I don't feel like waiting for 2 days to play this again lol

 

[Inferno3044]

Day 4 Begins!

The night felt like it went by quickly (because you guys finally decided to send your night actions quickly). As a role call is taken and it seems like everyone is here. The town can have a sigh of relief for now.


J (0)
John2k4 (0)
Pierce7d (0)
Chibosempai (0)
BarDulL (0)
Kary (0)
Frozenmarsh751 (0)

Not voting: J, John, Pierce, Chibo, Bardull, Kary, Fmrash

Day 4 has begun! With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Deadline is set to 7/2 at 11:59PM

 

[CT Chia]

Pierce what's the result?

 

[frozenmarsh751]

gee

didnt see that coming

 

[frozenmarsh751]

we should clearly keep no lynching

 

[CT Chia]

Tbh at this point I'm kind of ok with No Lynching I think, unless Pierce's result turns up something.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

vote no lynch

everyone in this game is a bro (yes kary. i actually like you tho i know im often a **** to you ingame) no reason to kll each other guys

scum no kills of course ad infinitum

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Yo, hear me out.

We managed to get no kill in the night, however that happened.

If we no lynch we give scum the opportunity to kill someone again: unless we learn something valuable from them killing someone, we shouldn't give them the opportunity, right?

So yeah I don't want to see everyone push for no lynch and then suddenly we'll be on the back foot again.

At the moment i'm looking at J and Chibo as scum. I want J to talk about what he didn't answer yesterday, i.e. how his claim would clear him.

I'm also thinking about massclaim today. Presumably Pierce got no result?

Think that's all for now.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

unvote

just distracts town

 

[CT Chia]

Presumably Pierce got no result?

Why are you assuming Pierce got no result?

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The reason I'm personally considering No Lynch is because all of the players we have left are solid and our Night Actions seem to be doing something so we can be learning from them.

 

[John2k4]

Told you Marshomp - you would not be dead toDay. <3




I'm fine with NL

 

[CT Chia]

Told you Marshomp - you would not be dead toDay. <3




I'm fine with NL

Any suspicion as to why?

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm okay with a mass-claim that way we can sort some things out.

I have some things I'll probably get to later.

 

[#HBC | J]

I actually only have one real question.

Kary, who did you jail again?

 

[John2k4]

Any suspicion as to why?

Nah.

 

[BarDulL]

I'm fine with a mass claim.

Claim order goes:

John
Chibo
Marsh
Me

If anyone has problems with that, fight me for it.

 

[CT Chia]

I'm okay with a mass-claim that way we can sort some things out.

I have some things I'll probably get to later.

What kinds of things?

I'm fine with a mass claim.

Claim order goes:

John
Chibo
Marsh
Me

If anyone has problems with that, fight me for it.

I'm uneasy about you claiming last, after you refused to claim on day 1. I want to see you claim first or second personally, outside of that I'm fine.

 

[CT Chia]

Also no one claim until we hear Pierce's result.

 

[BarDulL]

What kinds of things?



I'm uneasy about you claiming last, after you refused to claim on day 1. I want to see you claim first or second personally, outside of that I'm fine.

I never refused to claim, it's that I didn't.

And what the shiz? I'm mega cleared because of Ronike. Don't give me that B.S.

 

[CT Chia]

J who did you fortune tell last night?

 

[BarDulL]

Fine with waiting for Pierce.

 

[#HBC | J]

I fortune told Pierce last night.

Bardull, if anyone should be mega-cleared because of Ronike, it should be me to be completely honest.

I'm okay with Bardull claiming first or second. I kind of want it to be Bardull/Chibo>John/Marshy and it doesn't matter the order of the groupings.

 

[CT Chia]

I'm fine with claiming first/second as long as Bardull is the other first/second.

I fortune told Pierce last night.

Thoughts on this? How it turned out, why you chose him, etc...

 

[BarDulL]

I fortune told Pierce last night.

Bardull, if anyone should be mega-cleared because of Ronike, it should be me to be completely honest.

I'm okay with Bardull claiming first or second. I kind of want it to be Bardull/Chibo>John/Marshy and it doesn't matter the order of the groupings.

You're kidding right? You have no say right now because of the no kill, and in all likelihood you're going to be lynched today. Lets not forget our place in the world right now.

 

[#HBC | J]

I choose Pierce because he was the biggest target for the NK toNight if they were not going to No NK. I also stated in thread that I would be FT'ing Pierce in pretty much NA analysis.

Something's confusing me,

My fortune telling went through...but it said I was wrong...

I am honestly don't know how if I was jailed so I want to know who exactly Kary jailed.

 

[BarDulL]

I have NO CLUE how Ronike clears you.

 

[#HBC | J]

You're kidding right? You have no say right now because of the no kill, and in all likelihood you're going to be lynched today. Lets not forget our place in the world right now.

Please don't get on a high horse Bardull. ;P

 

[BarDulL]

I'm not on a high horse, you were jailed AND you were seen visiting Seph the night before. You're being ignorant.

 

[CT Chia]

I never refused to claim, it's that I didn't.

And what the shiz? I'm mega cleared because of Ronike. Don't give me that B.S.

You were asked to claim, and you said you don't have to claim yet and you didn't. Yet you asked Ronike to claim multiple times on the same day...

You're not technically mega-cleared, as much as I believe you're not scum. However, I'm sure you can see why I would want you to be one of the first to claim when you're at L-1 and didn't claim, yet wanted other people to right? As long as you're not scum, there's nothing to hide.

 

[#HBC | J]

I have NO CLUE how Ronike clears you.

I was the one who started the Ronike Wagon late D1 and created the wagon-snap. I could have just sat on Kary but I decided to go Ronike.

 

[BarDulL]

I was the one who started the Ronike Wagon late D1 and created the wagon-snap. I could have just sat on Kary but I decided to go Ronike.

I thought about that, but you were prompted by Seph IIRC. I have to look back and check.

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm not on a high horse, you were jailed AND you were seen visiting Seph the night before. You're being ignorant.

*sigh*

You aren't even considering all the facts Bardull. Yes, I was seen visiting Seph, I don't deny this. That's not scummy with my role. Yes, I was jailed, but as pretty much everyone predicted was going to happen, there was a No NK. Scum gained nothing really from NK'ing when there was skepticalness around my claim from you+Pierce.