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Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

SangfroidWarrior

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Ok, I appreciate people are still suspicious of me. But you've got to ask yourself things like why on earth I would try and swing a last minute Ronike lynch in order to save my own skin, as scum?
I don't remember you being the one to try to swing a last minute Ronike lynch. I remember it being Marshy and J. I remember you just being one to vote him. But, please, correct me if I'm wrong. What you quoted in your 1499 doesn't seem like it would start a conversation, nor does it seem like you were actually vying for a Ronike lynch, just that you were commenting on the number of people online and how they could go to a wagon that had a decent amount of support regardless.

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I don't fully understand this Rajam suspicion. If anything, I just find him as null. Can somebody explain it for me?
 

BarDulL

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I agree Sang, but IDK why he isn't posting when I've seen him come into the thread 3 times and not post any substance.
 

frozenmarsh751

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kary/sang/john/rajam probably contain the last scum. me and j and i think pierce have said this a million times. however whenever one of these slots gets wagoned there is someone around the corner to ****ong whiteknight them for no ****ong reason. sangfroid shouldve been lynched by now. rajam shouldve been lynched by now. the general consensus is that me/j/seph/bardull/ chibo are town. that leaves the players i listed above. i have no ****ing idea what else to tell you guys to get a ****ing lynch through already. this **** is not that ****ing difficult nor should it take this ****ing gorfdamn long. holy ****ing **** town

:phone:
 

BarDulL

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Dude quit rushing this **** and have some patience, we got time and any content from Rajam is beneficial to Town. Fo shizzle bizzle hizzle dizzle.
 

frozenmarsh751

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lemme run you through my thought process

1. J
2. SangfroidWarrior
3. Rajam
4. John2k4
5. Pierce7d
6. Chibosempai
7. BarDulL
8. Sephiroths Masamune
11. Kary
13. marshy frozenmarsh751

this is who is alive in this game

1. j - no issue with him at the moment. no one really has beef with him except seph . i am NOT lynching him over sangfroid/rajam/kary. maybe john. john just cuz my townbros seem to dislike him

2. sangfroidwarrior - i have been down to kill her since like page 5 and will continue to be down to kill her until one of us dies. if she flips town we lose a vanilla and someone that scum WILL keep around to make town secondguess sparing her today. boo hoo

3. read sangfroid except change that last sentence to "if he flips town we might lose a power role but i dont give a **** and scumm WILL keep him around so he can play 12 pages behind everyone else. boo hoo"

4. john - no beef with him. i guess id lynch him to compromise with town

5. pierce - really have no issue with him either. hes done some weird **** here and there but better targets at the moment

6. chibo - read pierce

7. bardull - spent a good portion of d1 whiteknighting him so we could get a better lynch through. not interested in lynching him anytime soon

8. seph - indy sk at worst but i SEVERELY doubt it. look at his posts. hes said "if j claims bulletproof and theres no nightkill then hes indy"...what the ****? why would an sk say this? why would an sk go out of their way to give grief to a stronger player? hes most likely town and definitely not a priority

11. kary - meh. down to lynch i guess? why not

13. frozenmarsh751 - town

so yeah. i have my reads. i have my pool. im confident in them and ready to move on with my life and this game instead of talking in circles forever while the playerslots i dislike will do nothing to change my mind
 

Pierce7d

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Pierce, two questions for you. Why did you feel Adumbrodeus was Town based on his actions on day 1? Also, why did you out that you were getting "strong VT reads from BarDulL?" I'm referring to your first post of day 2 btw.
I just didn't think he's bus Ronike like that day one. Simple as that, no further explanation. I felt that Bardull (you) was actively going after your scum targets. I can't remember why I thought you were powerless though.
 

#HBC | J

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This is like the saddest post I've ever read this game...=[

Pierce/Bardull, talk to me, Kary or John for you toMorrow?

Sang....do something...anything.....please? I don't want to lynch you but logic suggests otherwise.

:phone:
 

frozenmarsh751

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fos rajam
fos ronike
daykill rajam
execute ronike
suicide bomb rajam
lynch ronike
reconvinced myself

everyone shut up and vote rajam. do it in your next posts. let seph hammer. its his birthday and my present to him is a hammah

@ bardull

vote rajam

@ sang

vote rajam

@ kary

revote rajam

@ seph

drop the hammer

:phone:
 

frozenmarsh751

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know whats interesting?

kary/sang/john/rajam have all been wagoned at different points. its annoying to think that weve gotten so close to offing the 3rd scumbag

and yeah vivians a beast. easily the best partner imo

:phone:
 

#HBC | Kary

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Dude quit rushing this **** and have some patience, we got time and any content from Rajam is beneficial to Town. Fo shizzle bizzle hizzle dizzle.
Totally agree with this. I'm assuming you're just threatening the hammer.

Rajam get IN here.

@Seph: As I gather you don't want Rajam gone today, would you rather Sang or John today?
 

frozenmarsh751

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:smirk:

kary please revote so rajam can die?

j what is that in that girls hands? it looks likes bees which gross me out

:phone:
 

Pierce7d

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omg, I hate hearing people talk about TYD since obvious everyone is bad at the game. Vivian is the 4th, maybe 5th best partner.

Best partner is MM because she can steal badges, and since partners are utterly unnecessary in this game, this utility is amazing.
Best partner for combat is Goombella because Rally Wink is the best move in the game. Mario > Partners.
Best partner for combat after Goombella is Yoshi because Stampede is a lie. It reads that it hits all enemies on the ground, but it actually just hits all enemies. It also scales amazingly with attack buffs.
Then Bomberry is good because he has a massive HP pool, so you can use a point swap with him to recover a massive amount of flower points at low cost.
Then I guess Vivian is okay . . .
 

BarDulL

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I just didn't think he's bus Ronike like that day one. Simple as that, no further explanation. I felt that Bardull (you) was actively going after your scum targets. I can't remember why I thought you were powerless though.
Alright, that works for me.

@Kary - Yeah, I was threatening the hammer so that Rajam would post, but I don't really have a say in it anymore since Seph is going to hammer anyway. :/

@MOD - Requesting prod on Rajam
 

BarDulL

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In hindsight, I guess I'm ok with a Rajam lynch since he's really null and I don't think I'd want to take him to mylo/lylo, but a good Town Rajam is always useful when he's actually being a Town Rajam, which is pretty much the source of my hesitance at this point.

Either way, I still would prefer Rajam claiming first before being hammered if he ever manages to get himself in here.
 

#HBC | J

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I just realized something, you say you find John scummy for the very things I just said about you and I am trying to find out because as of toDay's play, you and John are not that much different. You both have this defeatist attitude, you aren't scum-hunting, and you only really post when your name is brought up or you are questioned.

So yeah, what is going on Sang?

:phone:
 

#HBC | Kary

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Yo, J

What's your read on John right now? Do you have him as town?
I feel like you found something on a re-read that convinced you to keep him around.

What do you think of Sang pushing John at the start of Day 2?

Also, general question, what happened to the Sang waggon? It was like this happened:
*sigh* If you're going to lynch me, could you at least answer some questions? I'm dead anyways, it seems, and I'd rather not waste my death.
and all the momentum died.
It was that or Chibo changing his mind just killed it, as far as I can see.
 

#HBC | Kary

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2. Sang is pretty passive, didn't see a lot of action and I agree that there isn't a lot of umph or commitment behind her actions. I like her reads though so I'm wondering if that's just the kind of player she is.
@Bardull, what did you like about Sang's reads?

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In case it wasn't obvious, I'm much more interested in waggoning Rajam for pressure rather than actually lynching him today. Added bonus- more reactions to look at.

Would like to hear more from Chibo & Seph... obviously a John post would be great; have you any insight you'd like to share, John?
 

Pierce7d

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This is like the saddest post I've ever read this game...=[

Pierce/Bardull, talk to me, Kary or John for you toMorrow?

Sang....do something...anything.....please? I don't want to lynch you but logic suggests otherwise.

:phone:
My fault homie. I had this open in another tab so I could read, then reply, and I totally forgot.

JOHN!
 

#HBC | J

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What's your read on John right now? Do you have him as town?
I feel like you found something on a re-read that convinced you to keep him around.
I believe I may have found something that makes John less of a threat per-say and also helps explain what I think he has been trying to do this game, however, even if it is what I have found it isn't enough for me to stop his lynch/not be on his wagon, but it's enough for me to not push him myself and actually give him more time in the game.

My read on John is null-lean scum, but better targets atm. (Right now I feel Rajam>Kary>Sang>John would be my lynch pool more concretely)

Kary said:
What do you think of Sang pushing John at the start of Day 2?
Didn't really do much of anything and Chibo did much more of a push than her.

Kary said:
Also, general question, what happened to the Sang waggon? It was like this happened:

and all the momentum died.
It was that or Chibo changing his mind just killed it, as far as I can see.
Pierce/Chibo did kill the wagon with their switches but in the end, people figured there were better people to die besides her at the moment besides Fmarsh. A Sang wagon can still happen but people are much more set on Rajam dying.
 

#HBC | J

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In case it wasn't obvious, I'm much more interested in waggoning Rajam for pressure rather than actually lynching him today. Added bonus- more reactions to look at.
This kind of defeats the entire purpose of pressure when you announce that it was solely for pressure....

Also why are you not interested in lynching Rajam. Can you tell me who you actually are okay with seeing die?
 

#HBC | J

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What the votes are atm:

Rajam (4) - J, Fmarsh, John, Pierce
John (2) - Sang, Chibo
Pierce (1) - Mod

Not voting: Seph, Bardull, Kary
 

#HBC | Kary

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Hmm, it does. But on the other hand he has had a chance to post and hasn't. I've also gotten reactions from pretty much everyone else.

I could have phrased that better... I am interested in lynching Rajam today, but am much more interested in trying to get a better read on him. I am coming to the conclusion that Rajam/John are going to be difficult to get solid reads on, so I am best off looking at what other people think of them, and taking a closer look at Sang.

I think we're going to have to kill one of John/Rajam/Sang/Chibo today... I think that Pierce/Bardull are more or less clear and that even if one of J/marshy/Seph is scum their lynch isn't happening today.

I can't make up my mind between Sang, Rajam and John. At the moment it is Sang>Rajam>John, but all could change. Chibo I feel ok about, I just kind of wish he was here.
 
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