Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Fyi, you're notorious for bussing your mates. If anything, it fits your meta. So yeah, let's not bring Ronike up as a point in your favor, shall we?

 

[CT Chia]

Vote Sangford Johnson

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

@J:

Could you explain to me why I'm scummy?

I think this was the only one.

 

[Inferno3044]

J (0)
SangfroidWarrior (5) Fmarsh, Pierce, J, John, Chibo
Rajam (0)
John2k4 (1) Sang
Pierce7d (0)
Chibosempai (0)
BarDulL (0)
Sephiroths Masamune (0)
Kary (0)
Frozenmarsh751 (0)

Not voting: Rajam, Bardull, Seph, Kary

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

[#HBC | J]

What? I haven't bussed my partner since Majora's Mask mafia where I had to cut Dastrn loose after scumming up the thread constantly. If anything, I try and keep my scum-mates alive as long as I possibly can, Hearts Mafia is a good example of my background scum-play with what I like to do nowadays. Marshy can back me up on that one.

I prefer, as of late, to keep the team going as a whole and only resort to bussing as a do or die manuever because I learned mafia have to work together in order to survive most of the time and it's better to win together>alone.

ScumJ would just have stuck to his guns on Kary and just lynched him D1 but instead swung the Ronike lynch with Marshy.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

J, you played with Rajam in Fire Lightning. Does that Rajam even slightly resemble this Rajam? His contact with Xonar in relation to his contact with Adumb and Ronike this game? His overall gameplay?

I've read games. scumRajam is always that Rajam. This is not scumRajam.

Kary is cleared through gameplay. Let me pull up a mindfart quote that confirms him as town.

and J, I still see it well within your possibilities as scum. You've never told me why scumJ wouldn't just go with Ronike. Call it a feeling for now, soon I will dine upon your flesh.

 

[CT Chia]

Didn't realize my vote put him to L-1...

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Also, my PoE has been consistent. Don't know why you're on me for having you as scum.

 

[#HBC | J]

Yes it does actually resemble his play in F&L, waaaaay more than his play in Celeb Rehab. In F&L he was always playing the catch-up game and just coasted till Xonar bussed him for that last little town credit but in Celeb he was actually caught up and actually pushing things where here he is just posting from 12 pages behind. =/

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Yeah, in early game though.

The way Rajam analyzes the game, J. Look at that.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Then how did OS die without anyone else dying?

This clears Kary. Scum would know what happened, most likely.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

Vote Sangford Johnson

lol

chibo is the best poster in this thread

someone hammah drop!!

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Marshy wanna split lynches or not?

 

[#HBC | J]

@J:

I think this was the only one.

Okay, thanks.

The reason I find you scummy this game Sang is that you have been content to just be a background poster and not actually push your reads at all. A good segment would be your Pierce vote where you seemed gung-ho about it and then the very next instant you switched to the Kary wagon.

All D1 you were non-commital with your stances and left yourself opportunities in order to back out of them and "keep options open". I really cannot recall any concrete stance from you D1 and that bothers me greatly.

Now toDay, when it is crunch-time for you being lynched or not, you have not been trying to stop your lynch or not even push in any other direction. In past games between us (and even in IRL) you fight tooth and nail when your lynch is about to happen and especially if you have a stronger read that you feel is scummier but you just go "*shrug* John/Kary are scummy, I'd rather them go toDay but it's alright if I'm lynched" which is something I am definitely not used to seeing from you. You had even brought up two games in which I would like to reference which are UPick Pokemon and FF9 where you went against Circus and Kuzi and fought against them till the final vote (albeit you were fuming but still had the gusto to fight it off) and you were lynched.

So yeah, in the end I feel that you have been non-commital in terms of voting and have like no drive to scum-hunt this game which makes me believe you are scummy.

 

[#HBC | J]

Why does every D1 lynch candidate that isn't lynched gets put onto the back-burner/forgotten so hard every game?

 

[frozenmarsh751]

> scummy ****poster gets wagoned d1
> someone whiteknights them for no reason
> town gets distracted and goes on a worse wagon
> new wagonee gets lynched and everyone forgets about the guy who shouldve originally died

welcome to swfmafia j

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm glad we lynched Ronike yesterDay but Kary has literally pretty much gone off the map in toDay's sense.

I mean so has Bardull but he wasn't a lynch option for me yesterDay.

Marshy, can we please get Kary toMorrow?

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

FFmarshy, look at J tomorrow.

I've asked you this before. I'm just reminding you. Ready to hammer, just need you to talk.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Now toDay, when it is crunch-time for you being lynched or not, you have not been trying to stop your lynch or not even push in any other direction. In past games between us (and even in IRL) you fight tooth and nail when your lynch is about to happen and especially if you have a stronger read that you feel is scummier but you just go "*shrug* John/Kary are scummy, I'd rather them go toDay but it's alright if I'm lynched" which is something I am definitely not used to seeing from you. You had even brought up two games in which I would like to reference which are UPick Pokemon and FF9 where you went against Circus and Kuzi and fought against them till the final vote (albeit you were fuming but still had the gusto to fight it off) and you were lynched.

I agree to every bit besides this. Honestly, it's because I know I can't really argue my way out of this one because there's nothing to argue about. It's just the way you perceive what I do, and nobody has even really made anything to which I can argue. I've been trying to push John, and I try to stop my lynch but I know for a fact that I won't be successful. I've accepted the fact that I'm expendable in everybody's eyes, and I know I can't change that when everybody in this game is so closed-minded. The fact is that everyone (well, almost everyone) is so convinced on me being scum that anything I say would just be pushed off. Every single case I've seen on me lately seems to stem from some sort of connection, and I've already explained why I dislike that.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

can you gimme a list of most protown to least seph?

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Here, Marshy. It has a PoE which basically gives town a foolproof plan to win.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

I just ask you guys to look more into John toMorrow and anybody else that has hardly done anything in this game. Don't let him coast like he is doing now.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Sang, you know J. Talk to me about J.

 

[Pierce7d]

I would just like to say, that I think Sang is town, but she's way too much a liability. I had high hopes last night she would talk and scum hunt today (real life day) but she's way too coasty.

John still needs to go
Kary still needs to go
I'm okay with Rajam still going
LOL @ scum J. Even if I entertain this, it'll be hella late.

Seph, here's one thing I'm not buying. If you had a bullet, why the **** didn't you shoot J if you thought J was scum? You thought Bardull would be hard to lynch after Day 1. next to impossible to lynch J, ROFL.

 

[Pierce7d]

J, I trust me over you, but I trust you. Don't be scum, k? I'll be all sad, cause victory won't be as sweet without you.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Pierce, when do you think I attained this J scum read?..

 

[#HBC | J]

Dude, I am totally there for victory with you and Marshy. It will be so sweet at the end.

@Seph: You've had a scumJ read since yesterDay. I have the claw marks to prove it haha.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Sang, you know J. Talk to me about J.

I'm not really sure. I'd have to re-read him because I feel comfortable thinking he's town. If you want, I can do that before you hammer.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

But was it stronger than Adumb scum when I've been shouting I was gonna shoot Adumb ALL ****ING DAY?

 

[CT Chia]

Unvote

Really perplexed by Sang asking us to look into John tomorrow.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

I would just like to say, that I think Sang is town, but she's way too much a liability. I had high hopes last night she would talk and scum hunt today (real life day) but she's way too coasty.

Really? That is the worst logic in the world "I think sang is town but let's lynch her anyways because she isn't doing anything" Like, I don't even know how to make you understand that I've been trying to scumhunt, but I'm just doing it differently. Everything I have done this game I've done for a reason. *sigh* well, listen to my previous post, at least. Don't let John coast.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I'm not really sure. I'd have to re-read him because I feel comfortable thinking he's town. If you want, I can do that before you hammer.

That would be nice.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

rajam as town? ugh thats asking way too much

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Marshy, I'll paypal you 50 bucks if Rajam flips scum. I'm THAT confident.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Unvote

Really perplexed by Sang asking us to look into John tomorrow.

I explained earlier why I think John is scum, but I just have a stronger read on Kary. He's done nothing at all D1 and D2, and by nothing I mean nothing. His posts are really fluffy to me and he's not made any stances or done anything productive.

 

[CT Chia]

Vote John


Not budging unless something big changes. I've been a fan of this whole John and Sang link and Sang telling us to be sure to look into John if he dies is big to me. If both were scum, there's no way he would do that. Coming down to one or the other, I'm def feeling more on a John lynch overall. At least Sang is somewhat attempting to defend himself, where John did jack ****.

 

[Pierce7d]

I think the game supports lynching Sang in terms of clues, but I think that in terms of their play, John should go. Sorry Sang. I needed a bit more from you toDay to help save you, but way too much coasting.

John if she flips town, you're next.

 

[Pierce7d]

And not even Marshybro will be able to save you

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

I understand, I guess. I'm just a little salty. It's my own fault, I know.

 

[frozenmarsh751]

gotta admit im a little lost right now. meh