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Paper Mario Mafia: Day 4 finally ends! Luigi wins!

#HBC | Kary

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Hmm.

@Pierce: do you have a case on John beside him not doing much? Apologies if I missed it.
John seems very laid back in his play (this is my inital impression), does this fit with him being scum?

@John: of the people on your waggon [Chibo/Pierce/J/Sang] who do you think is most likely scum?

@Seph: Please talk to me about your town Rajam read.

Still need to re-read Sang/John/Rajam/Chibo... will probs. be done within 24 hours though.

A quicklynch is a damn dumb idea at this point IMO, the day basically just started.
 

Pierce7d

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Oh, please excuse my edit, it was like the smallest of typos (non-nonsensical got auto corrected wrong and I fixed it)

You can give me the mod vote for it though, I'll take responsibility for my actions. I didn't think of it when I just went and did it really quick.
 

Pierce7d

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Wow, that was the best post by Kary today. Let's see if we can keep this up.

I'll sum it up for you Kary.

-John does not scum hunt
-John does not reply to pressure
-John expects those in high standing to work for him while he takes orders (I was very open with this being my strategy for day one, while John is just coasting and doing this).
-John is OMGUSing Chibo
-John is bringing attention to irrelevant stuff
 

frozenmarsh751

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yknow what interests me? adum was just trying to bus the **** out of his buddies this game no doubt. sangfroid matches this description before ronike caught towns eye

:phone:
 

frozenmarsh751

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Ok, FF here being mostly caught up and what not. I spent my time and effort mostly focusing on Adum's and Ronike's posts, since they're all confirmed scum n whatnot.

Ronike:

#277: Ronike and seph probs not scummies together (#238 too)

#243: Why does he want to know scum history of Kary, Bardull, John, Sang, Seph, and Pierce? Almost def another scummy in there

#250: Inactive callout on Rajam. Null but should be noted.

#258: J calls Ronike out on weird questioning in #250 I think. Points for J. Less likely to be on Ronike's team. Also, Ronike asks Rajam more easy Qs.

#268: Weird deal striking. Wants to trade a bardull vote later to get someone to vote for Rajam first. Hmmmmm, makes Rajam look better

#275: Not reading in between these posts but either someone posted a boss *** case against bardull or Ronike is easily convinced. Rajam as a buddy could encourage being easy to persuade away from his bus wagon if they're partners

#295: Bardull and Ronike def not scum together

#302: More calling Rajam on "content". Only seems to ever attack Rajam this way. Weird.

#430: Attacks Pierce for "staying out of RVS" when Ronike himself did it as well, but justifies the attack saying "well everyone gave me **** for it so it's only fair". Not an attack avenue you use as a bus tactic. Probs not aligned together.

Adum:

Adum:

#267: Calls out Sangfroid on activity out of the blue after lots of mechanic/theory discussion with Seph. Seems unprovoked too. There's prob some kind of agenda behind that

#345: Very lengthy justification of an "RVS" vote. That's weird. Also, very little discussion of Kary by adum up to this point yet he still votes Kary over Sang despite having Sang as "leaning scum" and having recently addressed her? Seems off.

#388: He "really doesn't like Kary now". How? He was already your alleged top scum read as a result of that prior vote but now you're just justifying future continued focus on Kary. Could be trying to push attention on his old Sang focus away and toward Kary. He's shifting gears.

#389: His town read on Pierce concurs with Ronike's. I wanna say pierce is town and that scum just decided to get him on their good side. POSSIBLE scum partner but unlikely IMO

#395: Ok Adum REALLY wants Kary dead for no good reason wtf, probs not partners

Until this next post is all just him ****riding the bus Ronike wagon.

#698: He's setting up for bus credit even if Ronike doesn't happen. Notice the switch to Kary AGAIN as a distracter. He's still keeping chip on Ronike though for his future flip, calling him as scum.

Sanfroid AND Rajam in his "probably" not townbros category makes me feel like one of em is probably good. Knowing that he paired Ronike with Kary in def not town category is reassuring for kary. Might be one scummy in the Null category.

After this post he goes on to hardcore defend Bardull as obv town.

And then he buddies you [Marshy] more about killing Sangfroid. Hmmmmm.

Sang is def the better play over Rajam IMO.
 

frozenmarsh751

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Long story short listen to Marshy and kill Sang. I'll let him be the final word on who we end up voting for since he knows whats going on better than I do.
 

John2k4

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Just got out of a movie, need to deliver a computer now. Will address things later tonight when I'm bacj .


:phone:
 

CT Chia

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Still down with Pierce as well that would rather go with John > Sang. I'm fine with Sang going, and if it comes down to it would be on his lynch pool today, but I think that due to sheer uselessness and learning more from his connections, we get more out of going for Sang sooner. Like we should be killing both, but we benefit a little more from John getting the cut.
 

John2k4

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john whos scum?
Sang, Kary, Chibi
John seems very laid back in his play (this is my inital impression), does this fit with him being scum?
Ding! I am completely relaxed and I love it.

@John: of the people on your waggon [Chibo/Pierce/J/Sang] who do you think is most likely scum?
Sang>Chibo

Pierce is probably not, and J is not scum.

No you won't John, cause you're full of ****.
Oh Pierce, you so salty. :awesome:
 

John2k4

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I said from the start of toDay that I was fine with Sang going; just did not want a quicklynch scenario.
 

John2k4

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As to what changed my mind, I also said that I did a good bit of rereading of D1 over the Night.
 

CT Chia

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You said that me and Kary were the only ones that you wanted to label as scum though... You said the rest were null or town.
 

Inferno3044

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Pierce has received a mod vote for editing his post #1324. The vote will disappear at the end of the day phase.

Raziek please send me what Adumb said via PM.


J (0)
SangfroidWarrior (3) Fmarsh Seph, Pierce
Rajam (0)
John2k4 (3) Chibo, J, Sang
Pierce7d (1) MOD
Chibosempai (0)
BarDulL (0)
Sephiroths Masamune (0)
Kary (0)
Frozenmarsh751 (0)

Not voting: Rajam, John, Bardull, Kary

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
 

Sephiroths Masamune

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No. I have ideas brewing in my mind and I need to work them out. Sorry Marsh. Weren't you the one who said we can wait a few days anyway?

I have also received confirmation that I do not have my shot anymore.
 

SangfroidWarrior

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John, could you give me some of your reads, and some explanation as to those reads? You seemed to hop on me pretty quickly, and I don't think you've substantiated anything you've said.

fmarsh (mostly to frozen), could you give me your read on John? You seem to focus solely on me and Rajam but make no reference to him, even though there's been a lot revolving around him lately.
 

frozenmarsh751

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i said to wait a few days so frozen could catch up and post. hes done that. ive hated scumfroids slot all game and am not about to let her slip away AGAIN. no one in this game likes that slot. literally every game i play in this forum has town come to a consensus on someone then you get a player here and there being a ***** and distracting town from the proper play

well do it without you then

@ kary

vote sang

@ rajam

vote sang

@ chibo

vote sang

cant believe it takes this much effort to get rid of a slot no one gives a **** about. ****ing awful

:phone:
 

CT Chia

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Was going to vote Sang to get something going. I don't really care in the end of things who dies, I'm fine with either but rather John.

However...

No. I have ideas brewing in my mind and I need to work them out. Sorry Marsh. Weren't you the one who said we can wait a few days anyway?

I have also received confirmation that I do not have my shot anymore.
Something isn't adding up here...

A bomb kills it's killer.

We know that it was Adum that killed OS, not Seph. If it was Seph, Seph would be dead.

So who got their shot out first? Adum or Seph? If Seph shot first, Adum would end up dead and OS would remain alive. OS is not alive, meaning Adum shot first. Now if Adum shot, and because of such died, then Seph did not successfully shoot Adum, and therefor should still have his shot.

So what gives?

Can we get some @MOD clarification here? Anything you can shed light on Seph?
 

SangfroidWarrior

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*sigh* If you're going to lynch me, could you at least answer some questions? I'm dead anyways, it seems, and I'd rather not waste my death.
 

Sephiroths Masamune

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Listen up *****es, because this is how we're winning the game.

These persons are town:
Rajam.

There is hardly any doubt anymore for me. Upon reread, I can not see scumRajam whatsoever. Not a play. Hard town read.


John2k4

There is no doubt here. His attitude overall and play have NOT been scummy whatsoever. Would call this a hard town read, but it's not. It's pretty damn close though.


Pierce7d

His play day1 and his play day2 are undoubtedly town. His misconceptions can only be seen as "town slips" for as far as I remember and that's not even factoring his play. Hard town.


Chibosempai

I refuse to believe a scum could be this dumb. Besides that, I don't see a speck of scum intent here. Hard town read.


Sephiroths Masamune

Speaks for itself.


Kary

Kary's play I saw in another light upon rereading. Not to mention, his D2 play is excellent. He too town slipped a while ago, which I pointed out. Town read.


Marshy

This speaks for itself. Really don't see this scum. Hardest town read.



1. J
2. SangfroidWarrior
7. BarDulL


Marshy, we need to HARDBODY LYNCH THESE THREE. Yes, J too. I've reread, might case on him later.

I'm down with Sang today if you can compromise me J or Bardull tomorrow. Wanna split lynches day by day?
 

#HBC | J

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Thing is, I'm not. ;P

We had to beg you to get onto Ronike yesterDay and plus Kary/Rajam are much much much scummier and you are just giving them free passes for bologna reasonings. You've been on my *** all game with nothing to show for it and I have absolutely no clue why. I make an absolute 0% chance as being with scum with Ronike since I was the first one to start the wagon snap onto Ronike>Kary in crunch time and also was the first to call suspicion on Ronike which Marshy followed on and gained a harder read than I did.

I will also say I am not lynching Bardull yet either, especially over Kary/Rajam after Sang.
 

#HBC | J

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Sang/John, can you requote your things you wanted me to adresse? I was being a bit lazy today but I'll get to it now.
 
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