Official Pac-Man's Amazing Full Colour Fan Club! - Pac-Man General Thread

[Cpt.]

I was thinking that the arcade maze stage could be a scrolling stage much like Rainbow Cruise where the stage scrolls in all four directions. The stage itself could be exactly like the arcade maze... much like 75m and Mario Bros... and we fight all over the stage...

That would make sense. I probably wouldn't like it, but it would make sense.

 

[APC99]

I think that the top platforms in the middle (from the top to the ghost box) would be a good stage.

 

[FlareHabanero]

One detail that would be sort of a cosmetic touch is that when you touch the walls or ground, the area glows a neon light correlating to a character's particular color (Kirby glowing pink lights, Pikachu glowing yellow lights, Yoshi glowing green lights etc.) This would in particular be a reference to the game Pac-Man Championship Edition.

 

[Staarih]

One detail that would be sort of a cosmetic touch is that when you touch the walls or ground, the area glows a neon light correlating to a character's particular color (Kirby glowing pink lights, Pikachu glowing yellow lights, Yoshi glowing green lights etc.) This would in particular be a reference to the game Pac-Man Championship Edition.

That sounds like an awesome idea! If giving each character specific colors is too much, they could light up as a neutral/random color in a basic, free for all battle, but in team battles they could glow as the correspondent team colors.

But basically it seems safe to say that the best candidate for a Pac-Man stage would the maze in some form or another.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

hmm... I think I'll work this weekend in a montage for ilustrate Pac's Maze as a stage; I'll probably use pieces of 75m to make this more faithfull of our ideas. And I like the thing about neon colors as reference from Championship DX+, even if the original Pac-Man, blue is the predominant color.. would be nice having the Pac-Dots shinning as little lamps in the black background.

I'll see what I can do. If not a montage with 3D characters and backgrounds, I'll try something using sprites. =)

 

[Deleted member]

I think that the top platforms in the middle (from the top to the ghost box) would be a good stage.

Yeah plenty of good shapes to make traditional stages. The main Final Destination shape one just below the center along with two platforms, maybe the long ones below or to the sides of the aforementioned one, would make for a great combo. Although obviously a huge stage based purely on the maze would also work, those types of stages tend to suck.

hmm... I think I'll work this weekend in a montage for ilustrate Pac's Maze as a stage; I'll probably use pieces of 75m to make this more faithfull of our ideas. And I like the thing about neon colors as reference from Championship DX+, even if the original Pac-Man, blue is the predominant color.. would be nice having the Pac-Dots shinning as little lamps in the black background.

I'll see what I can do. If not a montage with 3D characters and backgrounds, I'll try something using sprites. =)

I look forward to this! Should be great as always coming form you, Cyberwolf.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Holy ****! I was wrong on Pac World's release after all (I thought last year's December was the release). At least Japan can finally know where Pac Man's Mario Kart GPX design came from. Since Westerners hated the show, I wouldn't be surprised if Japan loved the show since they like toilet humor and cute critters.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

actually, Pac-Man Dash and Pac-Man Museum already have content from Ghostly Adventures, and both were released in Japan, and after MKAGPDX... in fact, in Pac-Man Museum even has a section with description of characters and their respective roles in the new universe of Pac... (similar with the trophy section of Smash, btw)

but I thought that the show was already being transmited in the Japan's TV... Well, at least was what the Wiki said.. I dunno if the debut was simultaneous with the western (we had here in Brazil the dubbed version two months after the US debut).

 

[Dropkick JD]

..To be fair, even I thought that Pac-Man show was ass and was a bad move.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

..To be fair, even I thought that Pac-Man show was *** and was a bad move.

not suitable for everyone? (especially when it comes to teens and adults, after all, is a show for kids), maybe ... but a bad move? never!... NAMCO did the right thing for bring Pac-Man back in the spotlight, and explain his new universe... and the show does it better and faster than 3 releases of games in a row could do.

 

[AncientTobacco]

Since Westerners hated the show,

Kids didn't. I thought it was so popular that it's getting a second season?

never!... NAMCO did the right thing for bring Pac-Man back in the spotlight, and explain his new universe... and the show does it better and faster than 3 releases of games in a row could do.

Too bad the new universe and the show are both ****.

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

Building off of what @ FlareHabanero said, I'd venture to say that the entire stage should resemble the aesthetics from Championship Edition, perhaps even switching between the game's various maze designs, or loading as one of several designs every match (like the Tortimer Island stage). Championship Edition and its sequel have fantastic aesthetic qualities that would make for a very visually impressive stage.

 

[APC99]

I wouldn't say the new universe is sh*t, it just had some bad directing.

I think if the plot and characters more closely followed that of the Pac-Man World Trilogy (Spooky instead of Betrayus, the ghosts being more mischievous, Prof. Pac and the other characters), it wouldn't be as controversial.

Also, maybe keeping the Party designs (minus Pinky's, the current one is better) and keeping closer to said series would help.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

Too bad the new universe and the show are both ****.

well, not really.. I'd love to develop better my point of view and my opinion about the show, ... but I think I'm already sounding repetitive. And, of course, I can live with all those controversies opinions.. after all, everyone has personal tastes. =P

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

Eh, I never liked the World...world, either. Fantastic games, but didn't care much for what they accomplished plot-wise. I don't think Pac-Man's ever had an interesting world. I'd prefer they find something that works instead of reverting to the old. Keeping it as simple as possible would be my suggestion. You don't really have to make an interesting world for this sort of series. The only thing that should really be interesting is Pac-Man himself. If he can be played straight as a source of humor or entertainment, everything else should, more or less, naturally flow from that.

 

[allison]

The OP convinced me that Pac-Man is a good idea. I thought that he wouldn't make a good moveset, but the OP proved me wrong.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

Well.. considering how Brawl and Melee had a lot of effort in musical terms, especially with Orchestral arrangements, do you guys think that Pac-Man Series would get its own set of orchestral themes?.. I'd love that, ... but, Sonic and Snake had most musics ripped from their games, or in the Sonic's case, some past remixes as the Angel Island Zone one.. ... I dunno, seems that Mega Man will get some new remixes, if the Dr. Wily's Castle Theme from his trailer is any indication.. but we don't know about orchestrated musics.

Pac-Man have a lot of good themes along the years, we all Pac-fans know that... but the general public obviously doesn't know so well.. would be a good opportunity to expose some pieces from Pac-Man Series and bring new arrangements for the old songs that we all love... If we look for fan-remixes, we hardly find something from Pac-Man that isn't a generic dubspet from his Intermission Theme or the "Game Start" jingle from the original Pac-Man game... :T...

well, at least I found this .. absolutely lovely,... with less "christmas spirit" would be something what I would expect from the Smash Bros. sound team;

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Remix or not, this NEEDS to be in the game.

 

[Nu~]

Don't forget these.

Great fighting music.

 

[MrsAccount]

I've never like the idea of making the actual pacmaze into a stage. Those stages (like the retro DK/Mario Bros ones) were never any fun and outright confusing. They just get so big, cluttered and ugly. For me, it would work far better as a background element/theme with an original stage design so it can actually feel like a stage ingrained with the game instead of forced in.

 

[CalumG]

If we're talking Pac-Man stages, I've got the perfect thing for it:

Area in red is the stage (other parts wouldn't be collidable), which would pop out of the screen at the player, and the blue is a rough idea of blast lines (though they could probably be a bit bigger? I'm no stage expert).

In Pac-Man championship, the stage always changes; however, this bit always has the same layout. And look, it's a big square with two platforms above it - it's already more or less perfect for a Smash Bros. stage! It could cycle through different layouts and graphical styles but this part could always remain as a consistent and pretty legitimate (nb4 tourneyfag) stage.

The ghosts could be interesting too. I'd really like it if, instead of damaging players, they served as moving platforms, randomly popping on and offscreen and changing trajectory based on what layout the maze currently has.

 

[Bauske]

well, not really.. I'd love to develop better my point of view and my opinion about the show, ... but I think I'm already sounding repetitive. And, of course, I can live with all those controversies opinions.. after all, everyone has personal tastes. =P

It's okay, CyberWolf. You've got someone who agrees with you. I really love what they've done with the new show. I think a lot of people look at the show, see that it's aimed towards kids, and turn away from it in disgust. Of course it's going to be aimed towards kids. They're not going to make a Pac-Man show aimed at adults. I'd actually cringe more at a "gritty" reboot of Pac-Man than anything else. I like his world being lighthearted, fun, and colorful.

That said, the new plot actually gives reason to things. In everything beforehand, the games, the old cartoon, the ghosts were always bad. They were just bad guys and that was it. No reasoning, nothing else. In the new show, they give reason to why they're bad and why they attack the citizens of Pac-World, and I like having that information there because, even though they're still the villains of the show, it gives you the opportunity to sympathize with them occasionally due to attaching some sort of relatable bond.

I also love that there's a consistency to the plot (the Nether Realm is dangerous to Pac-people, his parents are missing, elements and events that happen are mentioned later or get shown again), and I like that there's an actual plot development (the ghosts trying to get their bodies back, the aliens, his parents). People can say what they want about how "terrible" the show is, but I just can't see it. It's aimed at kids, but even so, it's a decent quality show that really tries to be the best it can. It's not cheap or silly or tries to jumble up the plot with silly nonsense. It works and it does it well, and I'm really excited for season 2 now that I've seen all episodes in season 1.

 

[Deleted member]

It's okay, CyberWolf. You've got someone who agrees with you. I really love what they've done with the new show. I think a lot of people look at the show, see that it's aimed towards kids, and turn away from it in disgust. Of course it's going to be aimed towards kids. They're not going to make a Pac-Man show aimed at adults. I'd actually cringe more at a "gritty" reboot of Pac-Man than anything else. I like his world being lighthearted, fun, and colorful.

This is one aspect of the argument I can agree upon. Okay, Pac-Man's new show is quite poor in my opinion. But it's a kid's show and that's better than trying to create a gritty reboot like Devil may Cry or that one horrendous Looney Tunes reboot. It's not the worst direction they could have gone in and they at least try. They couldn't been far lazier in the implementation or simply left Pac-Man to rot.

In fact the idea they should have left Pac-Man to rot reminds me of Bayonetta 2's haters. I'd rather Bayonetta 2 existed even if it's not on the best console. Likewise, Ghostly Adventures is pretty bad yeah, but it's better than nothing for the fans and keeps the license alive. Something good may come of it, and if that good is Pac-Man getting into Smash Bros, then I'd say it's worth a stupid kiddie cartoon.

 

[Bauske]

This is one aspect of the argument I can agree upon. Okay, Pac-Man's new show is quite poor in my opinion. But it's a kid's show and that's better than trying to create a gritty reboot like Devil may Cry or that one horrendous Looney Tunes reboot. It's not the worst direction they could have gone in and they at least try. They couldn't been far lazier in the implementation or simply left Pac-Man to rot.

In fact the idea they should have left Pac-Man to rot reminds me of Bayonetta 2's haters. I'd rather Bayonetta 2 existed even if it's not on the best console. Likewise, Ghostly Adventures is pretty bad yeah, but it's better than nothing for the fans and keeps the license alive. Something good may come of it, and if that good is Pac-Man getting into Smash Bros, then I'd say it's worth a stupid kiddie cartoon.

I will be so sad whenever a day comes where Pac-Man is left to just be "history." I hope Namco continues to use him in games of his own, cameos, wherever for the rest of their time as a company, because no matter how bad it might be, I always enjoy something new with Pac-Man in it. Always.

 

[Deleted member]

I will be so sad whenever a day comes where Pac-Man is left to just be "history." I hope Namco continues to use him in games of his own, cameos, wherever for the rest of their time as a company, because no matter how bad it might be, I always enjoy something new with Pac-Man in it. Always.

No matter how bad it gets, it's not as if there can't be good along with the bad. Look at the Mario Kart Arcade games or Championship DX, there's a plethora of Pac-Man games out there released already or in development. All the cartoon does is increase his popularity to a younger demographic and help to keep his iconic status.

 

[Rockaphin]

Pac-Man gets WAAAYYYY too much hate. They could build an entire moveset just from the Pac-Man World Series. I just don't get why people are so against him. I've yet to see a good argument for why he's a bad choice.

 

[Bauske]

Pac-Man gets WAAAYYYY too much hate. They could build an entire moveset just from the Pac-Man World Series. I just don't get why people are so against him. I've yet to see a good argument for why he's a bad choice.

That's just it. There is no solid argument for why he's a bad choice other than "I don't like him and he'll potentially replace a character I want."

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

Pac-Man gets WAAAYYYY too much hate. They could build an entire moveset just from the Pac-Man World Series. I just don't get why people are so against him. I've yet to see a good argument for why he's a bad choice.

They could build an entire moveset just from the first arcade game, honestly.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Pac-Man gets WAAAYYYY too much hate. They could build an entire moveset just from the Pac-Man World Series. I just don't get why people are so against him. I've yet to see a good argument for why he's a bad choice.

Yeah I see alot of "BUTT BOUNCE REV-ROLL SO CLICHE CLICHE CLICHE" it's annoying.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Pac-Man gets WAAAYYYY too much hate. They could build an entire moveset just from the Pac-Man World Series. I just don't get why people are so against him. I've yet to see a good argument for why he's a bad choice.

The reason why Pac-Man gets so much flak is probably a combination of the lackluster reception of both Pac-Man's protrayal and the franchise as a whole, which became worse with the introduction of the Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures brand. The hatred for the lastest incarnation even affects those who do want Pac-Man.

Also, the Pac-Man World trilogy wouldn't be enough, you sort of have to go on all fronts to make a moveset and improvise when it's necessary.

 

[Deleted member]

The reasons why are obvious, but it didn't stop Sonic from getting into Brawl after his at the time, horrible recent game releases. Hating a character over one spin-off cartoon is a little rash, considering Pac-Man has been around for over thirty years.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

The reasons why are obvious, but it didn't stop Sonic from getting into Brawl after his at the time, horrible recent game releases. Hating a character over one spin-off cartoon is a little rash, considering Pac-Man has been around for over thirty years.

*thinks of Sonic 06, Unleashed, Secret Rings, and Riders Zero Gravity*

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

*thinks of Sonic 06, Unleashed, Secret Rings, and Riders Zero Gravity*

Hey. Zero Gravity was awesome.

I'll give you the others for sure, though.

 

[FlareHabanero]

The reasons why are obvious, but it didn't stop Sonic from getting into Brawl after his at the time, horrible recent game releases. Hating a character over one spin-off cartoon is a little rash, considering Pac-Man has been around for over thirty years.

Like I mentioned, it has to do with the reception of the character.

Pac-Man may be a famous character, but like I mentioned in previous posts he does have several problems with enticing people. Like the inconsistency of the continuity, his abilities being standard barring the oddball ability every blue moon, and Pac-Man himself being unappealing as a character due to the wrong character traits. I think if Pac-Man is to gain a stronger fanbase, the franchise needs the correct adjustments in order to attract people. Like I mentioned, Pac-Man is at his best when he drops the cowardly or lazy character and focuses more on being either wacky or witty.

Hence why I think Sonic himself despite the quality drop is the games still had the loyal fanbase, because he himself was still Sonic, the speedy blue dude with the attitude.

 

[Deleted member]

Like I mentioned, it has to do with the reception of the character.

Pac-Man may be a famous character, but like I mentioned in previous posts he does have several problems with enticing people. Like the inconsistency of the continuity, his abilities being standard barring the oddball ability every blue moon, and Pac-Man himself being unappealing as a character due to the wrong character traits. I think if Pac-Man is to gain a stronger fanbase, the franchise needs the correct adjustments in order to attract people. Like I mentioned, Pac-Man is at his best when he drops the cowardly or lazy character and focuses more on being either wacky or witty.

Hence why I think Sonic himself despite the quality drop is the games still had the loyal fanbase, because he himself was still Sonic, the speedy blue dude with the attitude.

I don't agree that there is a problem with the reception of the character, to me it seems like a small minority of critical people who don't like the new universe. I don't like the new universe, but I'm not going to let it shade my fondness for Pac-Man and his long history dating back to the '80s. There's no contingency of Pac-Man fans who don't like the new direction of the series, because it's not that kind of franchise.

You are right he's not Sonic... but seriously who wants Sonic's loyal fanbase? I'm content with Pac-Man simply being an iconic video game character who is well known. I think if Namco tried to push Pac-Man to be "wacky or witty" we'd hate the results far more than Ghostly Adventures. He's already fairly wacky, it's just meant for a younger audience.

 

[Bauske]

Like I mentioned, it has to do with the reception of the character.

Pac-Man may be a famous character, but like I mentioned in previous posts he does have several problems with enticing people. Like the inconsistency of the continuity, his abilities being standard barring the oddball ability every blue moon, and Pac-Man himself being unappealing as a character due to the wrong character traits. I think if Pac-Man is to gain a stronger fanbase, the franchise needs the correct adjustments in order to attract people. Like I mentioned, Pac-Man is at his best when he drops the cowardly or lazy character and focuses more on being either wacky or witty.

Hence why I think Sonic himself despite the quality drop is the games still had the loyal fanbase, because he himself was still Sonic, the speedy blue dude with the attitude.

The problem with Pac-Man is that, until recently, Namco refused to give him a voice. This was partially due to the creator of Pac-Man not wanting him to speak. Understandable reasons and all, wanting to keep the character innocent, clean, and good-natured, but it never did much to give Pac a personality of his own.

That's what Namco is working on now. They are trying, but unlike Sonic who has decades of sass and attitude under his belt, Pac-Man is just getting started. Us Pac-Man fans can see the potential and have high hopes, but for people who don't really care or aren't fans, it's hard to see because his personality has never been his standout feature. Pac-Man has, and for the most part always will be, just a ball in a maze that eats dots. That's his feature, that's his role. Namco's trying to rebrand him and give him more definition, but he's so cemented it's a hard change for most people to accept.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I may not be a big fan of Ghostly Adventures (not a bad show, just not my cup of tea), I can see what they're trying to do and I respect them for doing so. They want Pac-Man to stay relevant with gaming and not be an old relic of the past.

 

[The Real Gamer]

#FreePacMan

 

[Arcadenik]

Yeah I see alot of "BUTT BOUNCE REV-ROLL SO CLICHE CLICHE CLICHE" it's annoying.

And yet those moves make sense for Pac-Man since he's a sphere so why not let him use moves that take advantage of his spherical body shape?

 

[CyberWolfBia]

Hey guys, sorry about that... I said that I would work in a montage for illustrate a Pac's Maze as a stage, but I didn't had enough time to start something yesterday.. and probably not today again; ... well, I'll try something later; :T