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OS All-Stars: Game over! TOWN WINS!

El ZV

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I heard that story before, but if one of the heads has no idea what's going on, then it should be pretty obvious after this:

El ZV, was there anything funky about how you received the role PM? Is the role PM you received the one located in your inbox sent by Overswarm, word for word and to a tee?
Nothing funky at all. I know obviously I could just say w/e yea as others in this thread said I could say, but it's a PM. The email address for the hydra is one of mine, so I have both the original PM from OS not only still in my inbox, but also in my email as well (which is obviously unedited).
 

El ZV

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Yeh those last few posts were Jeoy. John checking in here.

I'm late to this party, but Chibo, are you like not reading anything? Or have selective reading loss or something (wrt Barbell's gambit)?
I always tend to accidentally miss stuff while reading a bunch of things at once. Not going to lie, I've never been the strongest on reading comprehension. That's why when reading through things I normally just wait until I get that kind of aha thing I can wrap my mind around and think about that for a bit and harp on it. If I miss any questions from people just point them out to me.
 

El ZV

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To answer Chibo's question; I realized quickly what BardulL wanted out of me. If he was telling the truth though, I wanted Town to know why I was playing the way I been playing and why Bard would die too.

Yes, I am a noob town player; I've played mafia 3 times and town 1 time. Being Crono with this ability, I figured if people wanted to threaten a vig on me, I'd have to react fast. I did so here because I was mad at BarDulL if he was telling the truth AND town AND doing it all at once before I could react.

I even tried to breadcrumb my :202: as a means to show that if Inferno wanted to vig me, he was gunna have to explain why and (if town), figure out that my ability was a counter :202: Didn't really expect Bard to run this gam on me tho.
I like that crumb lol
 

El ZV

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I mean, this hydra can see that Chibo might be town somehow in some remote and distant galaxy, but we don't think it's possible to be that[/i] dumb of town. Chibo is a strange case, and we feel that he is scum (with Xiivi[?]'s occasional posts satisfying people enough that they forget about Chibo's posts for a moment).

For the most recent evidence, Barbell - his posts regarding your gambit and how he refuses to accept it as such.


Seriously John, stfu you dumb piece of crap (for lack of better or worse words). I'm tired of you doing this in every game.
 

El ZV

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How is that even scum hunting, though?

It looks like fake scum hunting to me, since anyone (including someone as stupid as myself) could come to the same conclusion that you did without even questioning you just by reading the thread. Asking those questions when the answers weren't obvious as all hell WOULD make him townie. Unless Chibo is completely ********, then he shouldn't have had any reasoning as town to ask those questions. The answers were already out there. The only questions that were even not stated directly in the thread were questions like "Why did you ask this when someone could easily shoot you down?" and even that question is half-*****. A simple answer saying "Krystedez was viewing the thread, so no one would have had enough time to shoot it down", "Because people would watch to get a reaction on a player they can't read accurately due to him giving noob town or scum tells", or "The only person that would ruin a gambit like that would either be dumb town or scum, and we can figure out the difference between those two based on their previous play."... Any of those would have covered that and they're all half-***** answers.

The questions were completely pointless and I don't see any reason as to why you consider them "Genuine scum hunting" when it could be compared to "Fake scum hunting".
El ZV, what do you have to say to that?
Can't even finish reading the post because I'm so upset with him I'm worried I'll get infracted/banned. That's what I have to say to it.
 

Bubbly Masquerain

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If it bothers you so much that John plays that way, would you want me to put my Masquerain sprite at the end of my posts specifically so that you won't feel like they're a personal attack? I have no idea what happened between you two, but if it was something that is this strong, I will definitely indicate that it is me, Joey, not John posting.

The big post was mine, not Johns. If you're upset at both of us, I can understand that. Please respond to my post when you are in a better mind set. Thank you, Chibo/Xiivi.
 

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What Joey postulated is not a personal attack. If possible, address Joey and tell him why he's incorrect in his assertion.
 

El ZV

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How is that even scum hunting, though?

It looks like fake scum hunting to me, since anyone (including someone as stupid as myself) could come to the same conclusion that you did without even questioning you just by reading the thread. Asking those questions when the answers weren't obvious as all hell WOULD make him townie. Unless Chibo is completely ********, then he shouldn't have had any reasoning as town to ask those questions. The answers were already out there. The only questions that were even not stated directly in the thread were questions like "Why did you ask this when someone could easily shoot you down?" and even that question is half-*****. A simple answer saying "Krystedez was viewing the thread, so no one would have had enough time to shoot it down", "Because people would watch to get a reaction on a player they can't read accurately due to him giving noob town or scum tells", or "The only person that would ruin a gambit like that would either be dumb town or scum, and we can figure out the difference between those two based on their previous play."... Any of those would have covered that and they're all half-***** answers.

The questions were completely pointless and I don't see any reason as to why you consider them "Genuine scum hunting" when it could be compared to "Fake scum hunting".
I did have reasons to ask those questions.

I have been playing this entire game so far under the assumption that this game was filled with roles from past OS games, and roles that OS created for those games but never made it in. As I mentioned earlier in my sprint of posts, this is the quote from OS that threw me off:

Some of my favorite roles are in this game. A few I sadly had to set aside for balance reasons, a few I didn't like as much added in for the same reason, but all in all this is an all-star cast and will more than likely be one of my favorite games.
I originally understood the underlined there as a few of the roles (that are in this game) were set aside (in other games) for balance.

I also figured this would be the case since I figured that having a mafia game where every single role being a power role that was basically revealed already is a bit insane. All someone has to do is claim a character, have no counter claims, we check the role pm from the past game they were in, then confirm that they can do those powers without any reasonable doubt. I figured that the past removed roles would keep this game in the OS style, be a way for OS to use the roles he wasn't able to, and add a sense of mystery into the game.

So for the entire game so far, I have kept this in mind. I saw Bardull do what he did, and noticed the name Dr. Strange. I looked up Super Heroes Mafia (one of the only OS games I didn't play), and noticed that Dr. Strange wasn't in there. Bardull revealed that Dr. Strange was basically a day time Jack of All Trades. Definitely potentially (? lol) game breaking, and could have been removed from Super Heroes (the mafia game Strange woulda fit into), so that is where I started this idea.

So then I figured, ok, that's his claim. It works. Then I noticed that Bardull was lying when he said it was fake, but something didn't seem right. The stuff he copy pasta'd.... That appeared to be WAY too legitimate. I've known OS for quite a while and have also played in the majority of his games, it felt way to legit to create on a whim. Down to using Inui in the example, which OS often does stemming from an old rivalry of theirs.

So, I thought the power info he posted was true, true in the way that it came from OS. But the power was obv false though, nothing happened. So how else could Bardull have had that piece written by OS? A fake claim. That's why I questioned in, and that's my case on it.

Then I later realized every role in this game is directly from a past games, so one of two things happened:
1. OS gave scum fake claims from false roles lol, which wouldn't happen since they would be caught too easily since we know Strange doesn't exist.
2. Bardull is amazing at writing and copying OS' style lol
 

Bubbly Masquerain

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I understand what you're thinking now. Great response you have there. Way easier to understand what you were going for now. Glad you realized that it's only roles in the past games, too!

I'm going to talk to John before I remove the vote, but I definitely feel better about you. I don't have any questions left. Not sure if John will or not.

Thank you, Chibo/Xiivi!
 

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Chibo, there's one thing bugging me. Why did you think that OS would supply a fake command prompt with a fake safe claim? To my knowledge, he has never done that before.
 

El ZV

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Also, El ZV, tell me who scum is.
It's tough for me to make a general read overall, since to me 90% of this game is just calling me scum for reasons I don't get or with no reasoning at all. So when them all acting so similar in respect to me, it's hard to tell them apart. The closest I have to solid scum reads was when I analyzed the wagon on me earlier in the game, this post:

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14640587&postcount=336

To which I feel the most scum coming from Meadow

and this these three posts in suggestion, that show my distaste for frozenmarsh:

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14643305&postcount=526
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14643306&postcount=527
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14643321&postcount=528
 

El ZV

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Chibo, there's one thing bugging me. Why did you think that OS would supply a fake command prompt with a fake safe claim? To my knowledge, he has never done that before.
Fake claims are sometimes full fake "role PMs" provided to them giving them information. Not always, but sometimes. I don't think I've ever been scum in an OS game (might be wrong, I forget), and I didn't look into OS' past scum safe claims. It's just the only answer I could come up with at the time for you to receive that ability text from OS, without having that ability (since I really thoguht OS wrote that ability, not you).
 

BarDulL

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Whether all parties should receive the PM or not is a different topic entirely.

I'm looking over your response now, Cheebs.
 

BarDulL

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Fake claims are sometimes full fake "role PMs" provided to them giving them information. Not always, but sometimes. I don't think I've ever been scum in an OS game (might be wrong, I forget), and I didn't look into OS' past scum safe claims. It's just the only answer I could come up with at the time for you to receive that ability text from OS, without having that ability (since I really thoguht OS wrote that ability, not you).
Can you link me an example of a "fake role pm"?
 

BarDulL

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Fake claims are sometimes full fake "role PMs" provided to them giving them information. Not always, but sometimes. I don't think I've ever been scum in an OS game (might be wrong, I forget), and I didn't look into OS' past scum safe claims. It's just the only answer I could come up with at the time for you to receive that ability text from OS, without having that ability (since I really thoguht OS wrote that ability, not you).
To my knowledge, you were scum in FF4 (indy) as well as Incredibly Depressing Mafia (mafia).
 

BarDulL

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Chibo, is there a reason why you're intentionally surfing through old mafia topics on your ChiboSempai account while leaving El ZV to view this thread on a different browser?
 

El ZV

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El ZV

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Chibo, is there a reason why you're intentionally surfing through old mafia topics on your ChiboSempai account while leaving El ZV to view this thread on a different browser?
Was looking through my role PMs on my Chibo account, then trying to find the threads that corresponded to them to link you to. I obviously couldn't share with you the Gaston PM I had, but could link you to the post by KK showing it.
 

El ZV

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Chrome is my main browser which I'm auto logged in as Chibo. Whenever I'm in a game as a hydra, I keep it auto logged in on Firefox, so I can easily have both open and not have to constantly log in and out to use a hydra.
 

El ZV

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To my knowledge, you were scum in FF4 (indy) as well as Incredibly Depressing Mafia (mafia).
Forgot about IDM mafia where I was mafia.

I just checked the role PM for that and he specifically stated that my fake claim was a VT.

In FF4 I had no safe claim at all and that role I had was utter BS and the most imbalanced piece of crap ever lol, impossible to win.
 

BarDulL

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Hahaha, I know. Trying to survive in that game as the Indy was impossible. IDM was the worst mafia experience I ever had ever.

@MOD - Seriously. IDM was BLEH.
 

Bubbly Masquerain

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Yeah, John likes Chibo's 1012. Explains a lot.

We almost want to remove that vote over it..

Sadly it's only an almost.
 

El ZV

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I'm also interested in seeing what people have on Hep too. He hasn't been on my radar much.

I'm thinking more about the 7 Flush vote, and even if Hep might deserve to die, I think I'm more wary of leaving Ran alive like this. He's literally made only 4 posts, and if we leave him alive even if he doesn't deserve to die, it will be near impossible to get a read on him because of his insanely small post count, so if he ends up being scum, it will be tougher to nail. At least with Hep we can continue to learn more about him and properly determine if he should die at any point.
 

Bubbly Masquerain

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@Bardull: Why did it take you so long to dislike the FrozenMarsh slot when he's been playing that way the entire game?

@FrozenMarsh:

> itt

inferno plays like scum

> itt

i wagon him for ****tyass posts

> itt

he turns around and says "it was all par of my master plan to play like scum and catch scum :troll:"

> itt

i am scum for wagoning his *** for playing like scum which he himself has admitted

you are awesome inferno. im so glad we have you as a vig in this game
Where did you get ANY of this from? I'm trying to find where he admitted that he was playing scummy, but I just can't...

Also, do you still feel that Inferno is scum? What about ZV? Are you planning on moving your vote away from him?

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Definitely not having our 7-Vote Flush on Hep at this point. On re-read (and before the re-read I felt the same way), Ranmaru's very few posts have been so scummy, more scummy than any of the **** Hep has done.

I also didn't like the original reasoning for voting Hep in the first place. Was kinda dumb-founded when Sho used their ability so early on players that no one had a legit read on (Two inactives pretty much).

:/.
 

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Bardull is starting to annoy me because his posting habits have a lot of fluff in them just to seem like he's all over the place.

Still cool with El ZV going just because of Chibo.

Hep vs Ran wish both could die. Ran should be vig bait but now we can't do it.

John/Joey pretty obv town

FroMarsh- Meh

Meadow if I gave you a gun right now who would you use it on

Xiivi, you're top scum pick in this game currently? I don't want you to use the excuse of "90 percent of this game has been crappy wagoning on me". Anyone you specifically don't want dying today?

Bardull, you've been throwing around a lot of suspicion lately, I want you to buckle it down to a top 3 and highlight some posts that make you think they deserve it.

Hepalien, have you seen any contradictions in the way Meadowsizzle has approached D1?

Ranmaru are you going to play or should we just lynch you for being useless?
 

Bubbly Masquerain

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KevinM, I'm assuming that by saying "should we just lynch you for being useless" about Ranmaru that you're taking his few posts as null? What are your thoughts on the few posts he's actually had in the game?
 
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