Online "Play Anyone" is perfect

[whiterob]

Whatever, all I know is that JUS, the smash clone for the DS, has way better online than Brawl does.

You're right. The only exception would be when all the **** team up on you for being american. I just changed my name to a Japanese symbol to fix that.

I really don't care about the "Play Anyone" feature. Why would I want to play random scrubs and 10 year olds when I could get good players friend codes and play them. The only time I could see myself playing "Play Anyone" is if I wanted to take out anger or frustration on random kids.

 

[Xanderous]

No, although random stuff is fun,What I want is to spend more time playing(online), then trying to.Besides the main problem I had with rooms was because you had to wait so d*mn long to play, even when you finished half an hour ago.

Comparing rooms to what we have seen, in a room,it could literrally take over 9000 hours waiting for everyone to be ready, which was my main problem with gunbound, besides Haxorx, and not being able to join a certain room, my BIGGEST problem with rakion.

Here however, things are quick and not so tedious when it comes to connections.Sure there is a random factor when it comes to HOW you play,but Considering how popular the competative community is, They arent astronomical.And if you want 1v1 play 2v2;There are team elements, But it is in essence 2 1v1 split in one match.Online tournaments will exist for the sole purpose of the competitive scene

Cant be done? Ever since online was anounced People have been preparing a system to play.Besides, the lag will probably interrupt the online tournaments, but, your truly eager to play that way, so go ahead.

Meh, pretty much, its not perfect, but it doesnt suck

All in all, I just wanna have fun, And maybe kick some ***

Have you ever played an online game, ever? Dozens, if not hundreds of online games use rooms to set up games and they're incredibly successful.

 

[Joecool]

Nintendo is starting to disappoint me with their online. Hopfully with the *With Friends* We'll have rooms, rankings or leaderboards, and be able to chose the matches we want to see from our friend lists.

 

[Bajef8]

i agree too, but those who agree are probably not competitive. this mode is perfect at the noncompetitive point of view. but for those who are competitive (most people at the boards) this online mode is the worst.

 

[Cless]

You're right. The only exception would be when all the **** team up on you for being american. I just changed my name to a Japanese symbol to fix that.

Well, random online degenerated to abusing glitches and gem farming, but the way it was set up is better than this. Find 3 other random people, one person is randomly chosen as the host and chooses his or her rules and stage, and then you go.

 

[kilroy]

Play Anyone is great. it's just the fast and loose kind of battle i'm looking for when i'm just relaxing and looking to smash it up with some humans i don't know.

 

[the truth]

the only problem I have with play anyone is the inability to define the parameters for the game.

 

[eugoogalizer]

Well, I don't know if it was mentioned before, and I'm sure it already has (since I don't feel like scanning through 100000 pages), but Mario Strikers had an online statistic system, showing your win:lose ratio along with displaying your names. What I don't understand is that if they had the capability to implement it in Mario Strikers, why not Brawl? :/ There really IS no harm in displaying you win:loss ratio, unless if you get suicidal over your loss ratio, and knowing who you're playing against was nice as well. There were occasions where I ran into the same team on Mario Strikers, who did beat me, but I learned their playstle and my mistakes, which allowed me to win the match once paired up again with that person.

edit: and for those who aren't familiar with the game, Nintendo had a ranking system that accumulated one week at a time, resetting every week on a specific day. So, before even joining a game, you'd see a whole list of the current top players of the week with their win:loss ratio, and how many points they have accumulated for the week; which was always interesting.

 

[the truth]

Nintendo is paranoid about anyone tracking ANYTHING via their wifi games. Also, I think Smash Brawl will be a much bigger game than Strikers.

 

[shipoffools]

you could have a random computer level option too and it would be the exact same thing as play anyone. pretty lame if you ask me.

 

[The Hypnotist]

the only problem I have with play anyone is the inability to define the parameters for the game.

Which is a huge problem. I highly doubt that Sakurai is so stupid that we can't set the game up. There has to be something other then Basic Brawl, like "Advanced Brawl" or "Expert Brawl"

 

[greenblob]

Nintendo CAN do this. However, to paraphrase Reggie (or some other Nintendo rep), online gaming isn't important and people like friend codes. BULL****!

All we're asking for are extra options. Is online 1v1 without FCs asking for too much? What about stock matches? What about the ability to turn off items? What about matching people up by skill level? Is that asking for too much?

 

[The Hypnotist]

Nintendo CAN do this. However, to paraphrase Reggie (or some other Nintendo rep), online gaming isn't important and people like friend codes. BULL****!

All we're asking for are extra options. Is online 1v1 without FCs asking for too much? What about stock matches? What about the ability to turn off items? What about matching people up by skill level? Is that asking for too much?

I couldn't agree more, we deserve better. I really think there has to be more than Basic Brawl, there's no way Sakurai and Nintendo are going to mess up the biggest game on the generation.

 

[Your Hero]

lol, you know what would be awesome

When you play regular matches (such as versus, maybe even classic mode fights), the game will rank you between a lvl 1 to a lvl 9, and tell you what level you would be if you were a cpu. Then depending on your level, you will be able to join whichever rank you'd like

beginner (levels 1-3)
advanced (levels 4-6)
expert (levels 7-9)

(You won't be able to fight in beginner if you're level 4-9, you won't be able to fight in beginner or expert if you are 4-6, you won't be able to play expert if you are level 1-6) Just so that lower levels won't get beaten if an expert decides to do beginner or advanced.

It'd be pretty fair, and after each fight your rank will be updated (But I don't mean like after one match, you'll go from level 3 to level 7, but rather it will slowly raise and slowly drop). Also the ranking could be done by the nickname you input, just like how you would choose your controller style.

 

[Meta_Sonic64]

Online "Play Anyone" is far from perfection. Very far.

 

[Gamin Guru]

the way you put it TC makes me reconsider why I was angry about this feature

at least Friends will be better, have stats and show names

 

[Got Blood?]

Online play gets a "meh" so far. I'm sure they can't be that dumb to completely screw it up though.

 

[trogita]

"Play With Anyone," is going to suffer from the same tragedy the Halo Series' Matchmaking went through. The settings. "Play With Anyone," will initially be horrible. It will be something stupid like 2:00 KO Fest, with items on medium, and every stupid stage in the game. It will be totally unappealing to the competitive player. Hopefully, Nintendo will show they care, and provide us with the option to play with competitive settings. If not, then competitive players will end up playing mostly by exchanging Friend Codes, and making their own games, much like the Competitive Halo community did, before an MLG Rules matchmaking playlist came out, that allowed for random online play with competitive settings.

 

[Shock the Hedgehog]

The only thing I could ask for is to show YOU and only YOU how many wins and losses YOU have. They wouldn't have to be shown off.

 

[SirroMinus1]

I'm not expecting a lot is all. I mean... ugh, this is tough to explain. I went in with low expectations for online play. The DS online example, the Strikers example, him literally telling us that there was going to be minimal options...

JUS Is not even close to being smash for the DS. its imposible to get back to the stage without certain assist coma/koma. you cant attack wile your fast falling. people complain if you got 3pannal trunks the list goes on.
most of peoples skill comes from koma alone.

i took the JUS part out of this post for some reason.

 

[Coselm]

To sum up this thread for everyone:

"With Anyone" is a quick and easy way to get a match going, but foreshadows the potential lack of depth with Brawl's online play.

 

[Ban Heim]

Not knowing who you're playing is like a slap in the face. Not that bad, but it stings a bit.

What we're complaining about is the kick in the nuts we got as players. Not being able to set up matches how you want sucks hard. Okay, so you have a chance of selecting your stage. Random, but I can live with that I guess. You have to play 2:00 time matches? ****ty. Not being able to change to stock matches sucks pretty hard. Random items? Even ****tier. Not only do you not get to choose to play with no items if you don't want to, but you don't even get to choose which items you can play with.

So yeah, "with anyone" is just a noob-friendly ****-fest.

 

[greenblob]

The worst of it is the fact that you're forced to play 4-way FFAs. If you somehow get lucky and only one other person connects, guess what: the game puts in two computer players. I mean, WHAT THE HELL?!?!

 

[Meta_Sonic64]

It needs work, but there's nothing we can possibly do.

 

[Joecool]

I only want a win/loss record is that so much ask

 

[Meta_Sonic64]

I only want a win/loss record is that so much ask

Maybe not, considering Sakurai has said nothing concerning battle records within the "With Friends" mode.

 

[jas3]

i would at least like to know when the other person connects and it switches the the computer so i can quit. if i wanted to play the cpu, i would play the cpu on my terms.

 

[Your Hero]

The worst of it is the fact that you're forced to play 4-way FFAs. If you somehow get lucky and only one other person connects, guess what: the game puts in two computer players. I mean, WHAT THE HELL?!?!

He never said that. He said that if during a match one of your opponents leave, the Human turns into a CPU. He never said that you'll always have 4 characters played whether they are CPU or not..

 

[Joecool]

i would at least like to know when the other person connects and it switches the the computer so i can quit. if i wanted to play the cpu, i would play the cpu on my terms.

Exaclty I agree

 

[hpoog]

what i was really hoping for was a wc3 type online system.

see in wc3, theres two types of modes. rank matches and anything goes. rank matches record win/loss record. the more matches you win the more exp you gain, losing results in a loss of exp. as you gain exp you gain lvls. Rank matches matches you up with people around your lvl, allowing a perfect challenging game. it also gives you the option of random team and ffa. solo, team, and ffa all have there own record and lvls. I think this system would be PERFECT for online brawl.

and when you dont feel like playing competively, you can join an anything goes game. these games use a room system where the room master sets up all the rules. users can join whichever room they please. this allows for you to play games with friends as well as a truly random match. i seriously hope they go down this route.

 

[WurmTheory]

I didn't have to think about this function to realize its greatness.

Squabble-less online gameplay! It's genius (and subsequently unheard of)!

 

[Joecool]

what i was really hoping for was a wc3 type online system.

see in wc3, theres two types of modes. rank matches and anything goes. rank matches record win/loss record. the more matches you win the more exp you gain, losing results in a loss of exp. as you gain exp you gain lvls. Rank matches matches you up with people around your lvl, allowing a perfect challenging game. it also gives you the option of random team and ffa. solo, team, and ffa all have there own record and lvls. I think this system would be PERFECT for online brawl.

and when you dont feel like playing competively, you can join an anything goes game. these games use a room system where the room master sets up all the rules. users can join whichever room they please. this allows for you to play games with friends as well as a truly random match. i seriously hope they go down this route.

Yes something along those lines. Like they could make leader boards for home-run contest, target test, and 100-man brawl. Also a ranking systeming, where they show the top 100 fighters and where the top 32 players get seeded for tournments. And lastly a win/loss record. That doesnt seem so hard to implement into the game.

 

[Danielman]

"Play With Anyone," is going to suffer from the same tragedy the Halo Series' Matchmaking went through. The settings. "Play With Anyone," will initially be horrible. It will be something stupid like 2:00 KO Fest, with items on medium, and every stupid stage in the game. It will be totally unappealing to the competitive player. Hopefully, Nintendo will show they care, and provide us with the option to play with competitive settings. If not, then competitive players will end up playing mostly by exchanging Friend Codes, and making their own games, much like the Competitive Halo community did, before an MLG Rules matchmaking playlist came out, that allowed for random online play with competitive settings.

This guy is right. And if you don't like with anyone, Ignore it, No one is forcing you to play.Exchange friend codes or something.Yes it's bad for competitive play, get over it,Online accross the world will lag.In fact name 1 game that if you play online, will not lag.(if you dont have a crazy fast modem.)

Edit:The above is also win.

 

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

I'll tell you guys what I like in online play:

Leader Boards.

Seriously, WTF is with no leaderboards.

BTW to have leaderboards;

YOU NEED ****ING NAMES!!

 

[Kirbykares]

yes, it is perfect. Thank you for noticing:

 

[Superninjabreadman]

It'll get rid of the "LEVEL 9s MAEK U 2 PREDIKTABUL" argument. unless 90 percent of the online population is Noobsause.

 

[Somasu]

I personally don't like the "With Anyone/Basic Brawl" right now =/ All my reasons basically being the same as The Hypnotist's

What I think Sakurai should've done was make their online like Guitar Hero 3's is with a few extra features.

In Guitar Hero 3, when you're wanting to search for a random match, you start by selecting whether or not you want it to be a ranked match, what type of game mode you want, what difficulty, and the number of songs you want to play. After that, it just sends you to the search screen and you're good to go when you find someone.

In-game, you can see their name, their scores, their entire fret board just as if they were right there in the room next to you.

It's basically just like regular multiplayer, but with the ability to play "with anyone" across the globe.


Brawl could have EASILY done it just like this. Want to search for a "With Anyone" game? Okay, start out by choosing the online option, then have it take you to where you can select the game mode, the stocks/time limit/coin limit/ etc. items on or off, number of players, and whether or not you want it to be ranked or something. Then, in game, allow for you to play the game with the person while being able to see their tag if they decided to put one up or something.

As a game creator, you can set everything up just as you would a normal game, with the exception of maybe something to also set up just how many people you want playing at a time.

What they could add is a "request/add as friend" button at the end of each game, that way if you have a good match with some random person, you can see if they'd be willing to add you so that you could fight again instead of having to just hope to get lucky enough to find and play them again.

Another thing they could add is a "Start Game" button for the game creator. That would easily allow the creator to allow as many players as he/she wanted, whether they want it as a 1-on-1, 3-for-all, 4-for-all, etc.


With all of that, I'd be MUCH more satisfied with it. As of now, it seems the online is only going to be an "Oh, I'm bored, so let's play this" thing instead of the "Hell yes, online time" it should have been.

 

[Corax The Cold]

its perfect if you can choose stock or time, if its time only then i will be playing mostly "play with friends"

 

[Gill]

People are making this into a casual vs competitive thing, as usual. But honestly, does anybody from either side want to be forced to play with forced setting/rules? I would think nobody wants that. This online mode is absolutely atrocious. In Pokemon Battle Revolution, there were no rooms or anything, but you could search for other players who have settings that match yours. You couldn't prevent people from using all legendary/OU pokemon teams, but it still functioned pretty decently.

A lot of people have said it so far: Nintendo isn't stupid. They're just stubbornly being pro-casual.

 

[Your Hero]

First off before saying this.. I'm semi-good, but I'm not one of those pros that actually can do those made-up terminologies for a game (wave-dashing, etc.) :\

You guys are so stubborn. Experienced players aren't the only ones that suffer. The Weaker players don't want to have to play against a very skilled person just to lose each time. they also want to play against people that are the same as them. Before you trash them, can you consider that they don't want to have as much of a hard time as you guys have a very easy time.