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Other than the title screen.
It's...less generic than those figures you posted. Which might as well just be Arnold and Stallone action figures.
I still think it's more appropriate if his default design is him shirtless just like in the NES sprites, and the others are him wearing many types of shirts/clothing from his post-NES games and maybe even the NES title screen/cover. Also Simon mostly had black or dark red hair throughout the Castlevania series, and Sakurai wasn't shy of making him blond like in his memorable appearance from the NES Castlevania covers.
I mean the whole point of Bill and Lance is that they're a direct inspiration from Arnold and Stallone respectively, still even then, there are a couple of charming aspects from these designs that make them stand out, such as each one of them having their own specific color on their clothing, and their trousers having geometric figures, which in a way kinda gives a bit of a retro videogame vibe. That design on the other hand, has nothing memorable to it. It's literally just generic character from generic shooter nº 3644.
As much as I like to push for NES icons Smash, I think the NES designs of those icons is almost never their best design and not the one that should be used.
To each their own, I guess.
The company that made those figures spoke about working with capcom and talk about how horrible it was and that they never wanted to work with them again.
Uhm Capcom?!
It's pretty neat. I wouldn't mind at all if it were the official thing, just have the left shirtless version being his default and make the bandana blue to match his pants and shoes (also make the blue darker), and it's excellent.
Excellent! Support list, then?
I hear ya, while I think it made sense for Castlevania to take the first leap, since it was a little more popular and relevant than Contra back in the NES days, Contra was also huge and it sure had a rich legacy as well, so I think it's only a matter of time before it gets some representation in the game. Realistically it'll probably be through spirit event or Mii costumes, sadly but I'm hoping they have Bill (and possibly Lance) as a full fledged fighter as he deserves.
Castlevania is potentially Konami's most iconic franchise as of today, unless you count Yugioh. And yes, Bill and Lance certainly warrant to be playable, but I would prefer Bomberman, Raiden (Metal Gear) or Heather (Silent Hill) for an additional Konami primary rep.
Wow, what a fitting topic for a Contra support thread...
How do you think of my Duelist (Yugioh) mii costume idea?
Lol, I love the enthusiasm, but no way is CV more iconic than Metal Gear.
Um, Metal Gear trumps Contra, but it's nowhere as iconic as Castlevania. Metal Gear is pretty much on-par with Touhou, King of Fighters, and Danganronpa.
Hmm. I always thought that Bill and Lance could use their knives for melee.
You can add my to the support list if it wasn’t clear already lol.
Lol, no. I'm not sure what country your from where Metal Gear is on the same level as those franchises, but it sure as **** ain't NA.
I currently live in the United States. And what or who is "NA"?
Popularity does not equal fame/iconicness. And I highly doubt that Mystical Ninja is well known nowadays.
Definitely Contra. Goemon is far too niche.
Most likely Contra then. I'm only uncertain on Mystical Ninja because I'm ignorant to its fan base in Japan, maybe it's low-key huge? Or at least that's the impression I get from Konami pushing for Goemon, you know? Maybe that's just regional bias, and Contra is definitely more popular.
North America.
It...kinda does? Fame/iconicness is just recognizability. Popularity is just positive recognizability.
Not too niche for a Mii Costume!
Not only does Contra not even have a Mii costume, they don't even have a generic soldier costume you could pretend was the Contra guys. That just feels wrong.
Not at all, if there’s one thing Contra deserves is a playable character on the roster so for all we know, the absence of Contra content in Smash Brothers might be good news.
If you’re going with that category then don’t forget the Battletoads with Rash + Zitz (4 alts), and maybe Pimple can cameo in their Final Smash. But yeah, imo Lance should occupy at least 4 of Bill’s alts, like Alph.
At some point the Battletoads were among my most wanted and I still want them in. I just see them very unlikely after 2 MS reps. Especially after Banjo.
I absolutely would rather have Mii costumes than get nothing.
Like all mii costumes, Ryu (Ninja Gaiden), Bill (Contra), and Kunio (Kunio-Kun) can work for all mii fighter types. Speaking of mii costumes, I would love to have Yugioh mii costumes without any Yugioh characters because Yugioh is owned by Konami.
Battletoads are my brother’s most wanted. I think they would also be amazing in Smash. I’m also fine with scaling down Pimple so he works as an alt (and scaling up Rash). Ideally, they would find a middle ground in their sizes and base them all on Zitz. All three played exactly the same and were the same size in Battletoads and Double Dragon so I don’t think it would be much of an issue. It wouldn’t be much different than having PoR and RD Ike as alts of each other.At some point the Battletoads were among my most wanted and I still want them in. I just see them very unlikely after 2 MS reps. Especially after Banjo.
But still, would be fantastic. Some kind of Greninja + Incineroar hybrid. And like you said, Rash with Pimple on the same slot, different colors. And Pimple in the final smash.
You take what you can get, and a Mii is better than nothing at all.
While I like the general idea, I'd swap out Hero for Solid Snake and maybe Samus. It's the same general idea, but those characters fit in better with Bill.
supports bill for smash
Added. Haven’t been here recently so apologies for the delay.
I’d especially love to have music from Contra: Shattered Soldier and Neo Contra in Smash, including these masterpieces:
I don’t think they were ever going to be duo characters. You only ever controlled one character at a time in their games so an Ice Climber style doesn’t really make much sense. I think they would almost definitely be palate swaps since Bill and Lance play exactly the same.
