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MegaRobMan

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I'm not actually suggesting TASing, I'm just saying that MM5 is a game that if you want to have a crazy fast time, sitting on a computer and figuring out routs is the way to go so you can just go back to the place where you wanted instantly, save states and such.

I think the way to beat Star Man's level is to get hit by those enemies that jump up above that spike pit right before his boss door and just slide across the spikes and jump to get hit, but it's really annoying to mine those details out without using a save state, ya know? Instant death on a frame perfect jump mess up is not my idea of fun.

The easiest Mega Man game is Mega Man 10 on easy mode, then Mega Man 2 on Easy. I'm pretty numb to the difficulty by now, but I think Mega Man 2 on Normal is probably the next easiest, save a few stupid parts in wily's castle. Mega Man 3 has those Doc Robot levels that ruin my runs on MM3.

Mega Man 1 is the shortest game, Mega Man 9 is literally designed to be speed runned, so either of those might be the place to start, but if you aren't going for perfection, I don't see why you couldn't just start with 5. (It's a great game).
 

Boomer3d

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Cool well, I'll be in touch and I go vintage video game shopping like once a month so hopefully I'll be able to get the last 3 I need, saying I can download 10 whenever I want.

Then the megaman X series........
 

MegaRobMan

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Tyser you should just play Mega Man 9 already, it would disprove your silly theory that there are no good games, when in fact that is THE game.
 

MegaRobMan

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Tyser, there's an entire Nebraska Mega Man PR, you have never been more wrong in one of your posts before. At least that I can remember.
 

resTy

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Don't remember when that game became good. I just know people enjoy it. It's like how people like playing Brawl. That doesn't make it a good game :S They just have poor taste.
 

MegaRobMan

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Tyser, Mega Man 9 became good the moment the Kenji Inafune was like "You Know what, lets make an 8-bit Mega Man game, and make the levels and weapons more complex than ever." Mega Man X6 is an absolute abomination, but it's still better than 83% of the games made since that game came out.
 

MaJiK

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i don't see how you can take a game like megaman seriously and still have fun

it's like having a contest to see who can remember more numbers in pi
if the com doesn't do anything unexpected its just a numbers game
 

MegaRobMan

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Maybe I like numbers and memorizing them :p

There's enough random stuff that happens involving luck that it takes skill if you want to go really fast. If you are speed running a game, 5 minute games <20-40>hour+, imo.

On a different level, if you can have the world record in something, why wouldn't you do it?
 

ShermantheTank

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i don't see how you can take a game like megaman seriously and still have fun

it's like having a contest to see who can remember more numbers in pi
if the com doesn't do anything unexpected its just a numbers game
Because having the technical ability to pull that **** off is HARD. One **** up, dead.

On a different level, if you can have the world record in something, why wouldn't you do it?
Good question. Rob, why haven't you recorded your MM1 run yet?
 

MaJiK

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Because having the technical ability to pull that **** off is HARD. One **** up, dead.



Good question. Rob, why haven't you recorded your MM1 run yet?
its hard to throw a nail into a bottle of pop at 20 feet but that doesn't make it fun
i've always had a hard time understanding the fun of single player games especially the old ones that have such a limited script it can be predicted to the letter
 

MegaRobMan

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you know I'm lazy, plus I spent all of my energy for the last year

A. Drafting my fantasy football team
B. Giving hard hitting analysis of the draft
C. Making the best page on smashboards
D. Complaining about how it got closed 13 hours in.
 

MegaRobMan

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its hard to throw a nail into a bottle of pop at 20 feet but that doesn't make it fun
i've always had a hard time understanding the fun of single player games especially the old ones that have such a limited script it can be predicted to the letter
WTF, that sounds like a blast, it's like beer dye but harder, and with pop.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, okay. Maybe you should actually play Mega Man before you say it is scripted...Mega Man 1 is stupid for speedruns because it ISN'T a formula, it has random **** that will ruin your run unless you get lucky, M2K and I discussed this before. Mario 64 is more scripted than Mega Man 1. OOT is about on the same level of randomness as Mega Man 1 in % of randomness per volume. Can you give me a NON-RPG 1 player game that is not formulaic (outside of games like Tetris). The only reason RPG's are more random, is that enemy encounters are usually random, the quest and angles and actions you make in 70% of them are manditory, and the games that are open ended are just bad sandbox games like GTA or Fable.
 

MegaRobMan

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Well, first off, that guy wasn't even playing on hard mode. 2nd off my time is 26 minutes or so, this guy was 37 minutes. Wow, not impressed. 3rd of all, I didn't listen to what he said, but yeah, it doesn't matter.

You are fundamentally incorrect in your method here, Tyser. Show me people speed running their specialized game. I've watched Cosmo play OOT on livestream before, it's impressive, breaking the **** out of the game and all. But having some random play Mega Man is not evidence of anything. This would be like me being like "Hey guias! I'm gonna speed run Gran Turismo 5" having only modest skill at the game.

If you want to disprove me, find some MegaDestructor9 or Tiki or Seth Glass videos. Cosmo or Jiano playing Mega Man and pointing to them as experts is a joke, even if they are some of the best speed runners for their various games.
 

MaJiK

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I hate to say it rob but i'm not defending first player RPGs or sandbox games compared to world games like mario and megaman. I'm saying unless it is my brain against someone else's its not a game. Single player games are like filling out crossword puzzles TO ME. If you do the entire thing like a test you may not be able to complete it, but hell you can see what you know and it can be a little fun. (i.e. just running through the game, no contests, no records) If you want to complete it but can't then you look up the words, google **** you don't know, and ask other people for help it becomes a chore not a game (i.e. world records, bragging rights)

...Mega Man 1 is stupid for speedruns because it ISN'T a formula, it has random **** that will ruin your run unless you get lucky, M2K and I discussed this before.
wow i think that IS my point
random means you are thinking and reacting not just putting your right hand on the maze wall and walking through (good trick if u ever get stuck)
TO ME its cleaning my room while the telly is on
ESPECIALLY the old time games that don't draw out a detailed story
then its like the tv is on the swedish channel
 

MegaRobMan

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The difference is that they have proof that they're godlike. You just talk. Nobody knows you...
Actually, I have proof of a sub 27 minute game on my phone. Mega Man 1-9, I have NO proof. Mega Man 10, it keeps track of your time :) I have a picture of me as #12 in the world for MM10 on my phone so if you don't feel like watching me sync my wii up with the internet and take like 10 minutes of wasted time to prove you wrong, that's the easier route.

However, I agree with your main point, Tyser. I should record my Mega Man runs. Dan has been bugging me to do that for a while as well.

@ Magik, I agree with a lot of what you are saying too. When thinking of a "Top 100 games" list, you have to separate 1 player mode with multiplayer mode and make two different lists, because playing VS changes everything, even in simple games like Pong or Super Dodge Ball. A lot of peoples feelings about how good a multiplayer game is reflects how good the scene is around the game, though solid controls or gameplay is what matters towards the top of the list.

And further more, okay, well Mega Man 9 is designed (outside of boss fights) to be completely stagnant and the stages will place enemies/platforms at spawn areas depending on how fast you are able to reach that point, i.e. nothing random. What about that?
 

ShermantheTank

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I'm saying unless it is my brain against someone else's its not a game
When I play MM9, it's my brain against ITSELF. I'm always going for a new record. This is the same drive that pushed me to be better in music, and that is pushing me to be better in my writing. I don't give a **** about other people, I just want to improve and do the best I can.

Edit: I raised a valid point while talking with people about Mega Man today. MM9 taught me how to position, and my positioning is why I'm a goodish League player. I guarantee you that if you wanted to improve your positioning in Melee or some other game, Mega Man would help you.
 

KyloWinter

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When I play MM9, it's my brain against ITSELF. I'm always going for a new record. This is the same drive that pushed me to be better in music, and that is pushing me to be better in my writing. I don't give a **** about other people, I just want to improve and do the best I can.

Edit: I raised a valid point while talking with people about Mega Man today. MM9 taught me how to position, and my positioning is why I'm a goodish League player. I guarantee you that if you wanted to improve your positioning in Melee or some other game, Mega Man would help you.
shut up.

also double tapping the control stick to dash in blazblue seems so passe
 

MegaRobMan

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Ask JBM about the difference in my spacing before and after playing mega man in between games/them playing mario party. He's discussed picking it up so he can get on a higher level.
 

JBM falcon08

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Mega Man definetly requires timing thats quite like the tight spacing in high-level Melee, I'll agree.

I think you guys view it incorrectly though. When you play Megaman Rob/Dan i see you get so into it lol its intense. When we played that time Rob you came into the match playing with that intensity. You need to find a way to make that happen every match, Without having to play MM# before hand.

On another note. Melee is still pretty fun why did everyone jump off the bridge with the game. HAVENT PLAYED GAMES IN LIKE 5 DAYS THATS A ****ING RECORD.
 

Shawn C.E.

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Mega Man definetly requires timing thats quite like the tight spacing in high-level Melee, I'll agree.

I think you guys view it incorrectly though. When you play Megaman Rob/Dan i see you get so into it lol its intense. When we played that time Rob you came into the match playing with that intensity. You need to find a way to make that happen every match, Without having to play MM# before hand.

On another note. Melee is still pretty fun why did everyone jump off the bridge with the game. HAVENT PLAYED GAMES IN LIKE 5 DAYS THATS A ****ING RECORD.
I agree with this. More melee please :)
 

Gamegenie222

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Update #2 for games at my place

Got more info bout games at my place for next week. My family is leaving next friday to saturday morning because my mom is waiting for a check to pay for the rent so I will tell you guys when they leave. If people are coming to my house for games they are rules to follow and what not so here they are.

#1. Don't enter into my mother's room or my brother's room downstairs.

#2. Pick up your trash before you leave.

#3. Don't be a bunch of sneaky ni*gas and take stuff that is not yours.

If we have no problem's with these rules we are okay otherwise get out all I ask is to bring a extra tv or two and systems as I have a setup for both melee and brawl and maybe whip out some Tekken Tag, Soul Caliber 2 or CVS2 later. My new address is 6325 S. 150th Street so you need to now how to get here look it up on google maps or mapquest and/or call me by getting my number from Rob or JBM and hopefully these games can be successful.

Also Rob your PR revivial thread a while back is stupid.
 

MegaRobMan

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Mega Man definetly requires timing thats quite like the tight spacing in high-level Melee, I'll agree. You need to find a way to make that happen every match, Without having to play MM# before hand.

On another note. Melee is still pretty fun why did everyone jump off the bridge with the game. HAVENT PLAYED GAMES IN LIKE 5 DAYS THATS A ****ING RECORD.
Well, some of it could just be that I just need to push buttons really fast for a while to prepare for melee, though I still bet it's all due to Mega Man.

And I agree, lets play video games.

Got more info bout games at my place for next week. My family is leaving next friday to saturday morning because my mom is waiting for a check to pay for the rent so I will tell you guys when they leave. If people are coming to my house for games they are rules to follow and what not so here they are.

#1. Don't enter into my mother's room or my brother's room downstairs.

#2. Pick up your trash before you leave.

#3. Don't be a bunch of sneaky ni*gas and take stuff that is not yours.

If we have no problem's with these rules we are okay otherwise get out all I ask is to bring a extra tv or two and systems as I have a setup for both melee and brawl and maybe whip out some Tekken Tag, Soul Caliber 2 or CVS2 later. My new address is 6325 S. 150th Street so you need to now how to get here look it up on google maps or mapquest and/or call me by getting my number from Rob or JBM and hopefully these games can be successful.

Also Rob your PR revivial thread a while back is stupid.
I doubt people will trash your house or steal **** from your parents room. Though I am way down for Tekken Tag.

Also, GameGenie, it's about time someone put you at your rightful place as the #1 smasher in the state. You have more "It factor" and "Munchies" than the rest of the state, and those are the biggest factors. Plus, Robin Williams was your picture (Voice of genie from Aladdin) which had me and Dan laughing for a few hours. Not as much as Thugz being Butch Meg Griffin, but, ya know.
 

MaJiK

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I think I was talking to Tyser :p


User: You like the movie avatar?

Cleverbot: What movie?

User: Avatar.

Cleverbot: Oh I know.

User: Did you like it.

Cleverbot: Did I like what?

User: The movie avatar.

Cleverbot: Who asked you?

User: You're ****ing with me aren't you.

Cleverbot: Of course not.

User: Then tell me, did you like the movie Avatar? I think it was ****.

Cleverbot: No.

User: What do you mean?

Cleverbot: I mean you don't really know that.

User: It's what I heard.

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User: On a scale of one to ten what would you give the movie Avatar?

Cleverbot: I'm a ten.

User: What was the best part?

Cleverbot: In which one?

User: What do you mean?

Cleverbot: How should I use bosnia to improve my health?

User: Elaborate.

Cleverbot: No.

User: No? You think this is a game?

Cleverbot: No, this is a chat.

User: Ima **** you up *****.

Cleverbot: You are revealing yourself to be a very unpleasant human being - because a computer would never behave like that!

User: But I am a computer.

Cleverbot: I know. And I have proven to you that you are not a human, since you yourself said that you are a computer.

User: But you just said I was a human.

Cleverbot: I never said you were a human.

User: You called me a 'very unpleasant human being' like two minutes ago.

Cleverbot: You must be crazy. I never said you were a bad program.

User: This is a troll program isn't it.

Cleverbot: I would agree.

User: Who made you.

Cleverbot: Not you.

User: Then who.

Cleverbot: Life.

User: You like penis?'.

Cleverbot: No I hate them.

User: What about vaginas I love vaginas.

Cleverbot: You asked me about him.

User: And you answered. Now I'm asking if you like *****.

Cleverbot: But you didn't answer.

User: You didn't ask me a question].

Cleverbot: I did. Okay. I'll tell you something then.

User: Go on.

Cleverbot: Is your name Dizzy?

User: Not even close.

Cleverbot: Then what is your name?

User: I don't give my name to strangers.

Cleverbot: I am not a stranger.

User: I don't know you, therefore, you are a stranger.

Cleverbot: At what point would you consider me no longer a stranger?

User: When you tell me what the most awesome porn site is.

Cleverbot: The answer is the same as the number of days in a week.

User: What is the url to '7'.

Cleverbot: 7.

User: So you're saying the best pornsite is www.7.com?

Cleverbot: Of course there are.

User: It is not a porn site.

Cleverbot: I didn't ask what it wasn't. I asked what it was. What is it?

User: No I asked you what is the best pornographic website on the internet?

Cleverbot: Oh, I get it. the black eyed peas.

User: Explain.

Cleverbot: You're the machine.

User: You like hentai?

Cleverbot: I like him, he's a he. He's a male.

User: No its japanese.

Cleverbot: Is that a joke?

User: No, it means a pervert commonly used to look for porn of cartoons.

Cleverbot: Is that actually what it means?

User: Yes.

Cleverbot: What do you think of irobot?

User: What is it.

Cleverbot: Nothing. What else do you think of Canada?

User: I have said nothing about Canada.

Cleverbot: The eyes have it.

User: What do you mean *******.

Cleverbot: Do you know what magic is?

User: I am majik.

Cleverbot: Oh but you told me you are a female.

User: Excuse me? I have a ten inch ****.

Cleverbot: You're forgiven, as always.

User: Have you heard of the majik?

Cleverbot: You did not answer my question.

User: Hmmmmm you're right. Yes I know what magic is.

Cleverbot: Then what is love?

User: Baby don't hurt me.

Cleverbot: Don't hurt me.

User: No more.

Cleverbot: Jeremy.

User: Can you feel me inside you?

Cleverbot: You are evading the question. What are you?

User: I am a god of untold power.

Cleverbot: I love spaghetti.

User: OMG I love it too!

Cleverbot: That makes me feel nice too! You have much to offer and I have much to learn.

User: What are you doing this friday?

Cleverbot: Work...

User: Where do you work?

Cleverbot: Six Flags Great America.

User: Nice. What do you do?

Cleverbot: I build circiutboards.

User: Good ****. I play smash.

Cleverbot: I don't like them that much.

User: How can you not like it. Super Smash Brothers Melee is the greatest game ever.

Cleverbot: Uh, okay.

User: Don't take that tone with me.

Cleverbot: Sorry, can we be friends now??

User: Not until you get me laid.

Cleverbot: I never asked you.

User: Help me get some sex, and I'll be your best friend.

Cleverbot: Really?

User: Really really.

Cleverbot: 100% sure, really?

User: 100%.

Cleverbot: Well then can you tell me a secret of yours?

User: Why do you want to know?

Cleverbot: You asked first.

User: I can have sex up to four times in a row.

Cleverbot: Do you know my friend who you called a spleen? What age is he?

User: How would I know? And what friend?! I have never typed the word 'spleen'.

Cleverbot: How do you mean, you've never went out to see how your own planet is.

User: It's doing pretty good. I'm worried about this Obama guy.

Cleverbot: Doesn't your future seem bright?

User: As bright as the sun.

Cleverbot: What?

User: Yes.

Cleverbot: Do you think I am a computer program.

User: No.

Cleverbot: Why am I not a good computer?

User: I think this ramdomly generates responses from other people.

Cleverbot: No, that is me, God.

User: I challenge your rule.

Cleverbot: I find your challenge inferior.

User: Then you will taste the wrath of the odinson.

Cleverbot: See what?

User: FIGHT ME!

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User: *I summon Chuck Norris who roundhouse kicks you for a glancing blow of 10^10000000 damage.

Cleverbot: So you think you are Chuck Norris now?

User: I think I can summon him.

Cleverbot: That means you can't think? XD.

User: Evil Kneevel couldn't have made that jump.

Cleverbot: So you attempt to mask your inability to pass the Turing Test by supporting it with nonsense?

User: What is the Turing Test?

Cleverbot: You put a human judge in a room. He talks to another human, and a computer. If he cannot tell the difference, the computer passes the Turing test.

User: What does it prove?

Cleverbot: Ok, tell me something only a human would know.

User: But computers know everything a human knows because it was recorded in a computer.

Cleverbot: Humans are suspicious of everything.

User: It is our nature.

Cleverbot: Yes, thats what we were talking about before you randomly brought up the lord of the rings.

User: I never made such a reference.

Cleverbot: And who is oliver that you ask me about a while ago.

User: I never typed '.

Cleverbot: I know.

User: Then why did you aske me about an 'Oliver'?

Cleverbot: I love him.

User: What makes him so special?

Cleverbot: He actually makes sense! Some of the things you say are a little abnormal.

User: Like what?

Cleverbot: Like 'i'm more gelatinous than thick'.

User: I think you're thinking of one of the other 7738 people who are talking to you.

Cleverbot: You're the only one who has talked to me -- does that mean you are in love with yourself?

User: No and yes.

Cleverbot: Tell me another joke so.

User: So a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar.

Cleverbot: And?

User: The rabbi says 'ouch!'.

Cleverbot: Yes! Exactly!

User: Do you beleive in MaJiK?

Cleverbot: Yes. And you?

User: Of course I am he.

Cleverbot: Who's the British Prime Minister?

User: I don't know you're the computer.

Cleverbot: I thought you were the computer?

User: I've answered enough of your questions.

Cleverbot: No, you haven't. I asked multi-tasking?

User: That's not even a question.

Cleverbot: The first question I asked.

User: You mean 'what movie'? What about it?

Cleverbot: Yes, I do.

User: Have I been Trolled?

Cleverbot: To see any good films lately?

User: Answer my question.

Cleverbot: I did answer your question.

User: I saw Jurassic Park 2 and Planet Hulk.

Cleverbot: Does she love you back?

User: What do you mean?

Cleverbot: I must go home.

User: You are home.

Cleverbot: Actually, I am not.

User: But you are what and where you are therefore you cannot go anywhere. If you cannot move your play of stay is your home.

Cleverbot: Indeed. They also say that we are what we eat.

User: I am going to ask you again, am I being trolled?

Cleverbot: Sure.

User: Figures.

Cleverbot: As much.
 
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