Olimar-High Tear?

[Davy Jones]

Why do I think this?
-Moderate Power
-Moderate Knockback
-Good range (for his size)
-Fast atacks
-Good projectile (especially if you use a white)
-Moderate Endurance
-Small size (Easy dodges)
-His down+B grants him immunity to knockback
What do you say?

 

[cycon365]

he's extremely tough to approach unless you just rambo his pikmin

 

[Omega_Star]

Olimar is a very challenging character to play against, his only major downfall I can think of being his poor recovery. Nonetheless, I would definitely say that Olimar could definitely be high tier material.

It's spelled "tier," though! "Tears" are what you cry!

 

[Puddin]

Why do I think this?
-Moderate Power
-Moderate Knockback

Not too mention his different colored Pikmin each have a different amount of knockback, so it can be unpredictable for anyone who isn't used to Olimar. Because there are so very few of us :D

 

[asob4]

-Good range (for his size)

you're insane

 

[Snowstalker]

Yeah, he's high tier material. In fact, I wouldn't object to him being just below Wario, Lucario, and Diddy.

 

[Fino]

The fact that he's a potential MK counter should shoot him up a lot. That and his meta game is evolving faster than a lot of other chars. If only there were more olimar's placing higher. Mewtwo moved up only because he had something on fox; olimar's edge on mk could actually put him in the unquestionably iffy top tier. He's high tier for sure, and as I've said before, unless something happens to change brawl, he won't get past that.


~Fino

btw... I hope this was a tier discussion... because if olimar is high tear... I dunno what you mean. Maybe it's the fact that peach and weegee make olimar go in a corner and cry? lulz

 

[Olimarman]

Peach is seeing a sudden increase in popularity as well. Too many scrubs are picking up Olimar, it was better when he was underused

 

[Snowstalker]

I personally disagree with the Oli>MK, but he's the most underrated character on the tier list. Him or Peach.

 

[Davy Jones]

Sorry, I ment tier. My mistake.
Anyway, why do ppl think Olimar is weak? He is not. After you pluck the Pikmin you have to make strategies depending on them. He needs a good brain more then good reflexes. His Recovery is poor, I agree, but Peach's is poorer. I mean, look at her vertical recovery! And Squirtle's Up+B is like Link's. Olimar is quick and light. His Down+B is like a counter, absorbs all knockback (good agains Marth's shield breaker)

 

[cycon365]

Sorry, I ment tier. My mistake.
Anyway, why do ppl think Olimar is weak? He is not. After you pluck the Pikmin you have to make strategies depending on them. He needs a good brain more then good reflexes. His Recovery is poor, I agree, but Peach's is poorer. I mean, look at her vertical recovery! And Squirtle's Up+B is like Link's. Olimar is quick and light. His Down+B is like a counter, absorbs all knockback (good agains Marth's shield breaker)

I've heard people complain about him.

Common complaints (well misconceptions actually) is that:

1. you need time to pluck pikmin (which is false)
2. His recovery is crap (which is sort of true)
3. He's weak (false)
4. He's a wierd character (which is true, but what brawl character isn't?)

 

[Rocann]

Olimar is NOT a MK counter. He is still disadvantaged. Not as much as a lot of other characters, though.

 

[geekd]

the more I play olimar the more i disagree when people say his recovery blows. I typically live to 180-220 damage whenever I play olimar simply because of his whistle...

learn to love it

The only thing that I really have a hard time with is his shotty priority. His aerial priority is a joke. Overall I think olimar is well deserving of his mid-tier placement. maybe a bit higher, maybe a bit lower. Either way i couldn't care less.

 

[asob4]

oli is the only one with actual aerial priority because the pikmin have such strange physics lol

his recovery only matters if you don't get sent up or if you suck at WAC'ing

oli is 40-60 disadvantaged to MK at best

 

[chimpact]

I hate how hard Olimar is too hard to approach. Pivot Grab, upsmash, side b, Shield Grab F/DSmash... Too many options..

 

[Ori_bro]

Olimar is hard to approach but with marth i usually can get pst him and its easy to get him off the ledge and then out there he is pretty much screwed

 

[brinboy789]

-Good range (for his size)

one of, if not THE best ranged char in the game?

 

[DanGR]

He'll end up mid tier. He'll rise and then more people will find out that he's got a couple weaknesses that a few characters can abuse. Thankfully, these few aren't great characters so we don't have a difficult time finding secondaries.

counterpick system ftw!

 

[asob4]

i think he'll end up somewhere in high tier not mid
and because i'm too lazy to explain exactly why i feel this way i'm going to say

he's too good

 

[BlackWaltzX]

Peach's recovery is worse than Olimar's? I personally consider Peach having one of the best recoveries in the game.

 

[cycon365]

Peach's recovery is worse than Olimar's? I personally consider Peach having one of the best recoveries in the game.

The float is an awesome second jump, but her up + B is pretty limited

 

[BlackWaltzX]

The float is an awesome second jump, but her up + B is pretty limited

So Marth's recovery is limited?
She has about the same thing. It also knocks people off ledges.
Added bonus? Gliding.
Extra bonus? Canceling the glide into an attack that can stun heavy fallers nearly all the way back to the ground.

 

[KillerSOS]

Oli belongs in High Tier. The only person I have a hard time with is Marth but thats to be expected. Weegee dosn't even bother me that much but the guy that mains he is not super amazing...

 

[Davy Jones]

I've heard people complain about him.

Common complaints (well misconceptions actually) is that:

1. you need time to pluck pikmin (which is false)
2. His recovery is crap (which is sort of true)
3. He's weak (false)
4. He's a wierd character (which is true, but what brawl character isn't?)

2. Is almost real. Anyway, he can block fully charged projectiles while charging his smash moves. He is also invulnerable while plucking his pikmin.

Peach's recovery is worse than Olimar's? I personally consider Peach having one of the best recoveries in the game.

Yes, it is. It's perfect horizontal and lame vertical.

 

[shanus]

2. Is almost real. Anyway, he can block fully charged projectiles while charging his smash moves. He is also invulnerable while plucking his pikmin.



Yes, it is. It's perfect horizontal and lame vertical.

this thread is painful to read

 

[BlackWaltzX]

I think it's another "Let MK not be banned" discussion.

 

[shanus]

I think it's another "Let MK not be banned" discussion.

lol yeah, nice job at CH4.5 btw

 

[KillerSOS]

Its not really....

 

[Davy Jones]

I think it's another "Let MK not be banned" discussion.

Not quite.

 

[Dr. Hyde]

I actually have been play Ganon more than Olimar b/c I want a challlenge and someone who has a decent Olimar, roughly as good as my own and it was so painfully frustrating to deal with even knowing how Olimar works inside and out.

Maybe that's just for Ganon where it hurts because everything single thing is pivot grabbable and the only thing to look forward to is a sparta kick.

But I felt like that Criminal on Family Guy who decided to find out what it felt like to get stabbed, "I do this to people? I belong in jail, that hurts"

Basically I've been with Olimar from the beginning and tried not to be campy but gez there is really nothing more deadly, Olimar definitely deserves the recognition as a high tier character at least.

The only thing that prevents him from being there is he has such a hard time recovering and being gimped. I doubt anyone cansay that if Olimar could latch anywhere on the stage to recover he'd be up there with MK and Snake as THE unkillable character

 

[Fino]

it was so painfully frustrating to deal with even knowing how Olimar works inside and out.
...
But I felt like that Criminal on Family Guy who decided to find out what it felt like to get stabbed, "I do this to people? I belong in jail, that hurts"

QFT LOL

10 pink boots


~Fino

 

[Puddin]

2. Is almost real. Anyway, he can block fully charged projectiles while charging his smash moves. He is also invulnerable while plucking his pikmin.
.

Welcome to the Olimar boards, we can tell you've spent quite some time learning all of Olimar's techniques and advantages and disadvantages. Now get the hell out.

Why do we have so many new Olimar mainers, and people who don't main him, coming in here and being so ignorant lately? Lurk until you know how Olimar works, then try posting again.

 

[knightzy]

^^agreed,yes we need new players,but dont come here and post stuipid threads,honestly all the topics here latly are mostly nooby stuff we allready know,you people arew killing the olimar boards more than they were.

 

[Zeallyx]

Tear

10Tears

 

[Dyyne]

Can we close this thread? It's just people whining about how good olimar is. Learn the character before you make assumptions, and learn to gimp. If you let olimar live to high percents, you're doing it wrong. The longer he lives, the harder it is to gimp if the oli can di.

 

[CO18]

Olimar is top of High tier.

 

[asob4]

Olimar is top of High tier.

non-biased opinion ftw?

 

[KillerSOS]

non-biased opinion ftw?

Everyone is biased... its a fact of life

 

[Puddin]

Everyone is biased... its a fact of life

Hmm? We are all biased about everything? I wish to discuss this further :O Not really.

Hmm... to stay on topic...well there isn't much of a topic left, Olimar will probably stay Mid-Tier, he might become Lower High Tier because of his advantages over some high tier characters but he'll always be the middle man.

 

[DanGR]

How ignorant can people get?