Olimar challenge #?: OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS

[professor mgw]

Luigi seem to be giving oli problems in general

how about recovery?

 

[Llumys]

We have some information on that in the weaknesses thread.

 

[professor mgw]

Ok, so what about priority or reading lines more effective?

 

[Llumys]

Dan's working on priority and whatnot.

"The purpose of this thread is to discuss how to get around SPECIFIC moves."

I don't think we need discussing how to get around reading lines more effectively. <_<;

 

[IcyLight]

i think we should move towards snakes dthrow, ness's fair, marios aerials, TL's bair/nair, or mk's dtilt

 

[Llumys]

Mario's aerials are just Luigi's but with less priority, less range, and more combo ability.

 

[professor mgw]

Ok, so Metaknight's DAIR is cool?

 

[Llumys]

He said dtilt, but whatever. I think you're just mentioning random words. Dair's something good to discuss, I guess. I'd rather discuss Meta Knight's planking or air camping.

Anyway, why do you capitalize every letter in DAIR? It's not an acronym. Also, there's a space in Meta Knight.

 

[professor mgw]

Why do you care? DAIR is not a real word, it represents 2. As for the meta thing who cares? I only bother with proper grammer n all at school, not a website for a wii video game. I can see that he said d-tilt, I wasn't trying 2 say that. So I'll put dair & d-tilt.

 

[Llumys]

You mad?

Regardless, I don't have much to say about Meta Knight's d-tilt, as it doesn't give me much trouble. As for the dair, I'd like to see what people have to see about air camping with it.

 

[Zori]

You mad?

Regardless, I don't have much to say about Meta Knight's d-tilt, as it doesn't give me much trouble. As for the dair, I'd like to see what people have to say about air camping with it.

srz biznuss

 

[professor mgw]

You mad?

Regardless, I don't have much to say about Meta Knight's d-tilt, as it doesn't give me much trouble. As for the dair, I'd like to see what people have to see about air camping with it.

Mad cause your a fiend 4 correcting grammar? Right..........
When it comes 2 dair i usually run & spam side B. If he isn't spamming it but he's predictable I'll use ↑B then throw a pikmin.

 

[Llumys]

... what?

Specify your situations a lot better. Anyway, tossing against Meta Knight is useless.

 

[IcyLight]

metaknight's planking is almost impossible to get by in general, especially his air camping. just time fsmash off the edge and hope it hits him, or if he's air camping wait it out until he messes up and try to uair/upb him. once he lands, try to snipe a white on him. basically try to time him out he will eventually get impatient if he is losing and approach, that is when you give it your best. if you are an impatient player, count his jumps and prepare for his landing.

as far as his dtilt, when he is in my face and dtilts me i find myself very limited, however i think fino mentioned you can either fsmash or dsmash and trade hits, which i never tried to do. lately i've been waiting for it and jumping and fairing and sometimes it trades hits, im not sure if that is working of if it is them messing up. iunno

 

[Llumys]

If Meta Knight's planking, just spam forward smash and hope he gets bored.

Trading hits sounds fine for d-tilt. An aerial sounds good, too.

 

[professor mgw]

When he d-tilt I'd run and pivot, F-smash, or just run away. As for air-camping yeah I'll still stick with olimar pikmin chain.

 

[IcyLight]

you cant run away when he is dtilting, or grab him because dtilt over powers and he will trade hits and possibly trip you.

 

[-Coco-]

... what?

Specify your situations a lot better. Anyway, tossing against Meta Knight is useless.

I wouldnt say tossing is useless against MK, its still good for pressure =/

 

[Llumys]

He eats through them anyway. I'd rather just always be ready to deal with whatever he does.

 

[professor mgw]

#9: Luigi tornado.

I try to predict when he's gonna do it, I'll prepare for it if he already wasted his 2nd jump and is approaching the ground.

I sometimes use D-air to nullify it,
F-air or a pivot grab. Most luigi's I play though are close enough when they nado to the point where it'll be to late in order for me to pivot grab.

 

[Zori]

i hate this moves this match up would be 10x more easy if he didn't have it, there is only one answer to this move.


play metaknight

 

[Llumys]

This is one of the hardest moves to deal with in this match-up.

I can't think of anything specific that will put you in complete safety, but as Bob mentioned, it clash cancels with our down tilt.

There's nothing much you can do to it. It destroys our Pikmin.

 

[PSIQuasi]

Run a little with the tornado, whistle-guard, and if you have any pikmin left, pivot grab.

 

[Llumys]

WAC does seem like a good idea, actually.

 

[Razek]

side b isnt useless against mk

-fearless

 

[Llumys]

I see why you could believe that, but I still don't think it helps. Sure, it adds a little pressure, but he can deal with it way too easily.

 

[professor mgw]

Good 2 know while im fighting luigi -_____-

lol my name isn't bob.
But yeah luigi nado is pretty homo-thugish

 

[Llumys]

Lawl, sorry. I mistake your posts 'cause they're so similar.

 

[professor mgw]

-___________- not really.

suggestions?

 

[DanGR]

Why would you Wac the tornado? It's multihit. Just pivotgrab it or shield and punish if he doesn't move away.

 

[Llumys]

It'd be situational, of course.

Anyway, I want to re-discuss IC's blizzard wall. Weruop calling it a "stupid move" still confuses me...

 

[Llumys]

Double post, sorry.

 

[PSIQuasi]

What about G&W?

 

[Llumys]

We're discussing the match-up right now, so I don't think discussion a specific tactic in here will be useful.

 

[professor mgw]

Next: ZSS armor pieces

 

[Llumys]

If you manage to get one, camp the living hell out of her.

 

[Zori]

hey, i know we talked about ic blizzard wall a while ago and came to the conclusion that our only option was to jump over it and nair but i found i different way to punish them. In between there wall you can throw a purple right in the middle and it can knock one of them out of formation and you can follow up but it takes very precise aim but its aim we all should have by now


also pictochat is the best cp vs ic's, always pick this stage

 

[professor mgw]

Sounds effective, I'll try it out.

 

[professor mgw]

Wario's D-AIR and N-AIR.

 

[rentford]

sorry wrong account