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How early does Jiggs die to Ike's jab?
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I said Jiggs, not everyone.I also like how bubba uses "theorycraft" like everyone does it
This is why I've said it's even >.>. Oh well, my opinion doesn't matter anyway.You can harass Ike offstage pretty seriously. Using an aerial while offstage for Ike means risking death, since their animations take forever to end. Coupled with his slaw air speed, low vertical ascension from his 2nd jump, sideB's vulnerability (if he hits something, he's now in freefall) and crap horizontal distance coverage from his upB, getting harassed offstage would suck more than you think. As long as Ike isn't too high up, using just about any aerial means he has a lower chance of successfully recovering.
Then again, Jiggs is super light and has almost no disjoints, and Ike is a pretty heavy hitter while having a buttload of disjoints in his sword...
Saying either one has an advantage on the other isn't exactly easy without something else to tip the scales.
EVERY AERIAL beats Ike's FINAL SMASH?Every Aerial takes Ike out of Great Aether
Here's a good video of the MU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlGtz5-1tEIIf only we had more videos with this Match-up...
Except that Jiggs is one of the best Ikes in the world. He knows both chars in and out!Here's a good video of the MUhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlGtz5-1tEI
Jiggs won with 69% so I think it's safe to say that the MU is +4 in Jiggs' favour
What ever gave you the impression that I didn't?Does ShinyMewtwo ever take anything seriously?
Marc, who I believe is essentially one of the main founders of the +/- system, has said that a 55:45 is a +1.I agree with the MU being 55:45 in Ike's favor, which Is essentially +0 anyways. I won't bother repeating the arguments that have already been stated many times now, but this is just my quick opinion.
This is pretty bad logic, and it's been called out as such several times already ITT. When M2K and ESAM both agreed that the MK: Pika MU was even (it's staying as such, but oh well), no one would take the fact that each of them was the best player of his respective char as good enough reasoning to just go along with it. Sure, the value is sticking, but it had to be argued out because M2K's and ESAM's opinions couldn't be fully trusted. Your logic also dictates that the Mario panel is being pretty ridiculous for arguing for a -4 for Mario:DDD because Boss, pretty much the best Mario, is better than practically everyone on that panel and he doesn't think that the MU is -4. Still, it would be pretty unjustifiable to say that they shouldn't at least try to make an argument for their case just because Boss or some other incredible Mario player disagrees. San is a "top notch Jiggs player" largely because he's a good Brawl player. This topic has already been discussed as well. Low Tiers' best players tend to be top players of other characters. Being skilled at a game doesn't make you good at realizing why your char wins/loses a MU. It just makes you.....skilled.lol guys, San, aka best Ike player there is and a top notch Jiggs player, agrees Ike vs Jiggs is even, so I dont see how you guys can even argue against his opinion seeing as 1, none of you use either character at high level, and 2, hes better than all of you.
I'll have you know he took his graduate studies very seriouslyDoes ShinyMewtwo ever take anything seriously?
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john maddenWhy does it take so much time?
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Hey hey hey, let's not forget Jigglypuff.Luigi is the manliest character in the game
Have I ever told you how much I love your avatar btw?This thread is going places
its coming out april 1stTrying to kinda get something happening. I wouldn't worry, though, if the new MU chart will be finished and published soon.