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OFFICIAL Sonic thread. (Keep it Brawl related, or suffer Xsy's/Xii's wrath!)
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behemoth
Smash Journeyman
I would like to see an argument for it as a bad thing. I mean, not only would both titles hype eachother and boost sales, but once people take home "Illogic at the Olympics" and realize how much it sucks, they're gonna want Sonic vs. Mario in a decent game.
Two weeks later, BLAM!
so how could it be bad?
edit: people posted reasons while I was constructing this epic post. Hmm, I guess I could see SEGA wanting the only S&M (hee hee) games, but not including Sonic would be just another suicide among the many that SEGA has made during its lackluster attempts in the industry.
Two weeks later, BLAM!
so how could it be bad?
edit: people posted reasons while I was constructing this epic post. Hmm, I guess I could see SEGA wanting the only S&M (hee hee) games, but not including Sonic would be just another suicide among the many that SEGA has made during its lackluster attempts in the industry.
MR.WIGZ
Smash Ace
@del
If the japanese get their brawl on before check to see if sonic makes brawl.....(spoil the surprise)
but dont tell me.
btw i think del may be right about sonic not being in brawl because of MaS
(Sega probably thinks that it would be a smart buisness decision)
If the japanese get their brawl on before check to see if sonic makes brawl.....(spoil the surprise)
but dont tell me.
btw i think del may be right about sonic not being in brawl because of MaS
(Sega probably thinks that it would be a smart buisness decision)
SiD
Smash Master
Yes I know, that's my point.
*** no, wheres your American pride dammit?
yeah it scares the living balls out of me. ok heres the deal:
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games is conveniently announced while Sonic hype for brawl was high now. we had heard Sakurai had contacted Sega and was awaiting a verdict. Mario & Sonic at the Olympics Games showed that Sega is not opposed to putting Sonic and Mario in a game together. so it showed that Sega shouldnt be opposed to Sonic being in brawl as a 3rd party guest. and now heres the problem. M&SatOG is scheduled to come out about 2 weeks before brawl. why so close? why so much emphasis on Sonic and Mario being together in a game if its only gonna happen again in 2 weeks? why this eagerness to release their own multiplayer game with cross-platform characters?
MR.WIGZ
Smash Ace
maybe they decided to make a trade (SEGA gets to develope SaMatO and Nintendo gets sonic in brawl)
behemoth
Smash Journeyman
@ del: I see your point. Let me ask you something: as a marketing VP at SEGA, you know as well as the rest of the world that the best game sales of the year involve releasing your "can't miss" titles between thanksgiving week and the christmas season. If Sonic WAS to be in Brawl, when would you have released this game?
Just curious.
The question goes out to all as well, since del raises a good point.
Just curious.
The question goes out to all as well, since del raises a good point.
b.wood5474
Smash Cadet
sonic should deff have a second character like how marth and roy were. only it will be sonic and knuckles. (duh)
MR.WIGZ
Smash Ace
i doubt knuckles is going to be a playable character in brawl there only 2 3rd party characters and i doubt 2 will come from the same game
Sinn
Smash Lord
According to IGN, the Japanese get their M&S@tOG six days before they get Brawl. Scary, no? (And why the Hell is everything coming out in the US first now...?)
I would imagine that SEGA wants to release their own Mario and Sonic game because...in the end, they'll be getting more money from those game sales, even if they're not that great, than they'd probably get from Nintendo for allowing Sonic to be in the game. I still see both as potentially good things. The timing of both release dates COULD be coincidental...but even if they're premeditated together, it could still in a collaborative effort. I think my glass is just half full on the matter.
Though usually my glass is just twice as big as it needs to be... >.>
I would imagine that SEGA wants to release their own Mario and Sonic game because...in the end, they'll be getting more money from those game sales, even if they're not that great, than they'd probably get from Nintendo for allowing Sonic to be in the game. I still see both as potentially good things. The timing of both release dates COULD be coincidental...but even if they're premeditated together, it could still in a collaborative effort. I think my glass is just half full on the matter.
Though usually my glass is just twice as big as it needs to be... >.>
SonicMario
Smash Master
That'd be the best! Confirmed while everybody is trying out the Olympics game. That reminds me, we should probably plan what we're gonna do
RDK, will you still be the n00b flamer you are... when Sonic is confirmed
Del, will you still despise Sega... when Sonic is confirmed
Dynamism, will you still be doing all the happy posts... when Sonic is confirmed
Dynamism
Smash Lord
Having Sonic in Brawl that close could benifit sega as well...
With all of this hype around mixing them, maybe Sonic will be a smash (no pun intended) in brawl and it will attract others to the Sonic Mario rivalry again and considering SMOG is the same time (roughly) the fan base will be intriqued. Eventually sprouting a double package "BRAWL AND GAMES!"lol
yes, yes i will *stands tall with pride and salutes*
With all of this hype around mixing them, maybe Sonic will be a smash (no pun intended) in brawl and it will attract others to the Sonic Mario rivalry again and considering SMOG is the same time (roughly) the fan base will be intriqued. Eventually sprouting a double package "BRAWL AND GAMES!"lol
yes, yes i will *stands tall with pride and salutes*
SiD
Smash Master
Pssh, Sonic so badass he could roll up into a ball, that would turn into a bomb, blow up the entire cast (except Pichu, who miraculously dodged it) and revive himself. And don't even get me started on his Final Smash.
behemoth
Smash Journeyman
hell no i wouldnt. how the hell is Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games a cant-miss title? lets think about this for a second...theres nothing to miss in Mario& Sonic at the Olympics. Sonic and Maro coming together can be done in brawl 2 weeks later, and its more anticipated. Smash Bros games > Olympic-based gammes. M&SatOG is yet another multiplayer game is that completely unnecessary for the Wii right now. how is a newfangled Olympic-based game with Sonic and Mario supposed to compete in the market against Madden 2008, Strikers Charged, Mario Party 8, Raving Rabbids (and the upcoming sequel), and OF COURSE BRAWL. Brawl was announced long before M&SatOG was. Sega was CONTACTED ABOUT BRAWL beofre M&SatOG was announced. now on a more positive note, M&SatOG along with Sonic in brawl would increase revenue but will it increase profit? theres no doubt this game will sell well among Mario fans, Sonic fans, and children. but the majority of the gaming populace are not fanboys who will buy a game first and then realize it sucks later. theyll rent/read reviews and all they need is an incentive to say "this other game here is better" before putting it down. the formula of M&SatOG is a compilation of Olmypic mini-games...theres archery, track running, hurdles, discuss, etc. its original, but its the Olympics. its not silly, wacky, interactive competition like it can be in Mario Party. the Olymoics isnt like that. itll basically be which player performs better solo. in fact, the multipular aspect would probably be dull. this game would be an awful substitute for Sonic being in brawl. so i guess i would either release this game AND put Sonic inbrawl, or not release it period.
you mean "if" Sonic's confirmed, right?
Dynamism
Smash Lord
@SonicMario: Yes he will stay with us...
Sonics only chance, Brawls a Smash Hit, and Sonic's in it!
behemoth
Smash Journeyman
If there was a way to add reputation, that last post woulda gotten you a couple. As it is, I will just say I agree with you completely.
This Olympics game sounds like it could be fun, and it will be amazing to play as Sonic vs. Mario... but those two concepts should never have been mixed.
It's such a throwaway title. It almost feels like a comprimise that Sega and Nintendo came to where they could have their franchise characters together, I'm sure with more work they could have hammered out a way for Sonic to be in Brawl.
BTW, del, I wasn't saying that I believe Olympic games is a can't miss, but that Sega seems to think it is.
God, they could have spent the time on something far more worthwhile.
... ugh, I'm going to go be frustrated somewhere.
This Olympics game sounds like it could be fun, and it will be amazing to play as Sonic vs. Mario... but those two concepts should never have been mixed.
It's such a throwaway title. It almost feels like a comprimise that Sega and Nintendo came to where they could have their franchise characters together, I'm sure with more work they could have hammered out a way for Sonic to be in Brawl.
BTW, del, I wasn't saying that I believe Olympic games is a can't miss, but that Sega seems to think it is.
God, they could have spent the time on something far more worthwhile.
... ugh, I'm going to go be frustrated somewhere.
SiD
Smash Master
Now now, the game might actually turn out to be fun. I don't think we've seen enough of it to make these assumptions Del.
Sonink
Smash Journeyman
...Which is exactly why Sega execs will think it's brilliant.
Instead of putting their mascot into one of the most anticipated games of all time, they'll stick him in another terrible Sega-developed monstrosity, hammer another nail in the coffin, and call it a day.
Dynamism
Smash Lord
i bet it'll out sell Brawl *looks around* but a factor in the negatives *looks around*
Seriously though,
They either planned it to be close because they suppose that it'll pay off for both of them in the long run. When they bring back Mario and Sonic twice in two weeks, there'll either be a stampeed or an earthquake!
Or Sega refused and decided to piss Nintendo off by getting in their face with this title. The first is more likely and more reasonable. That's all we can hope for!
Cinos Ruof Lwarb
Seriously though,
They either planned it to be close because they suppose that it'll pay off for both of them in the long run. When they bring back Mario and Sonic twice in two weeks, there'll either be a stampeed or an earthquake!
Or Sega refused and decided to piss Nintendo off by getting in their face with this title. The first is more likely and more reasonable. That's all we can hope for!
Cinos Ruof Lwarb
SiD
Smash Master
I say we all give Sega one more chance, see what direction they take Sonic in the next 3D game. Have some hope.
Dynamism
Smash Lord
Oh boy have they ever!
They'll even put Tails in Brawl before Sonic! lol
Seriously though,
I don't want to talk about anything anymore!
I'll just hope...
They'll even put Tails in Brawl before Sonic! lol
Seriously though,
I don't want to talk about anything anymore!
I'll just hope...
well...
1. i made initial assumptions about SatSR over a year ago and according to your complaints about it, i was dead on
2. olympic games are all about doing your personal best. i ran track in high school and believe me its not exactly a team-bonding sport. the multiplayer in this game cant possibly be good. why? because no player will have an interesting way of hindering another players success in a mini-game without pressing the reset button on the Wii
now this is true. but thats why the smartest business decision technically should be to release M&SatOG AND put Sonic brawl. too bad Sega was too dumb to count of the fact that fun multiplayer games does not mean wait for player 2 to complete their boring discuss throw.choose the Olympics was the dumb idea. id personally have more fun taking turns with someone playing Pong against a CPU
EDIT: wow, i think ive become even more negative than Garuda...
Garuda
Smash Ace
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lol. Well, I'm taking some college now, a little ahead of my own time. Looks like I just needed to get rid of some pent up energy.
Now I'm starting to not really obsess over it, but I would be very happy if he did get in the game.
SonicMario
Smash Master
Yes, just one more chance. If they can pull it off, perhaps Sega will be back to their old selfs (Though still impossible without Naka) in no time. If they can't, we'll despise Sega for a VERY long time. Unless they can make a Sonic game that outsells AND outgreats a big game. (like Halo or a Mario game. Even beating a Mario spinoff would be fine)
Oh and Del, i said When because i am getting sick and tired of saying "If". It feels like it is a Sci-fi channel commercial everytime. So i say When, it boosts my confidence & it gets other people positive. Can't you just pour your negativity at P2W anyway. This thread needs all the support we can get at Smash Boards, so "when" Sonic is confirmed. We can look back on how many supporters we could gather up here. Think about it, we're the largest supported thread that isn't closed (ala Original Ridley Thread). You shouldn't be putting any of your Negative just in case a Supportive newbie comes in and tells his side on things. I hate to be the "Dr. Phil", but lessen down on your negativity... Please.
behemoth
Smash Journeyman
Umm, out of curiosity, what is this "old sega" form that we're hoping this will return them to?
The only thing Sega ever did right was Sonic, and Gunstar Heroes. And 32X.
Well, two of those things anyways.
Remember though guys, if the team is just waiting for Sonic's approval from Sega, he may be hidden somewhere in the code.
Programmers unite!!
Sawnick fore Brawl
The only thing Sega ever did right was Sonic, and Gunstar Heroes. And 32X.
Well, two of those things anyways.
Remember though guys, if the team is just waiting for Sonic's approval from Sega, he may be hidden somewhere in the code.
Programmers unite!!
Sawnick fore Brawl
fsdfsdgsgdf
Smash Champion
i love gunstar heros....still play it till this day 
on topic: espio for brawl
on topic: espio for brawl
SonicMario
Smash Master
I meant the Sega during the early 90's. When Yuji Naka was most active there. Where all the classic Sonic 2D sidescrollers rivaled the success of the Mario games. The time when Nintendo actually considered Sega a threat. Sure they didn't sell as nearly as Nintendo. But they had good & great games. For some reason i blame the decline of the Saturn. More then anything of Sega's concurring failures.
fsdfsdgsgdf
Smash Champion
it wasnt the saturn... it was the dreamcast. sega....fission mail'd
behemoth
Smash Journeyman
And it wasn't even that Dreamcast was subpar on its own, or had awful games, but their timing was ... how would the kids say it.... uber wack.
And dear god did the Sonic Adventure series go to hell in a handbasket.
And dear god did the Sonic Adventure series go to hell in a handbasket.
fsdfsdgsgdf
Smash Champion
the sega phoenix will come....
fsdfsdgsgdf
Smash Champion
wat if tails is on screen? cuz u best believe if sonic is in, then so will tails.
i see it now...brawl team tourneys people using sonic & tails. i bet tails would be able to lift sonic in a way like he used to in sonic 3
Sonic final smash
first of all, good job on the move set. The only thing that I could think that would be different is if he were to have a projectyle, it would be similar to metal sonic in StH2, where he spins and shoots darts in every direction. Sounds a little cheap but oh well. That and the upB, I think it would be more of a pika-type move where you would get two really fast zapps in different directions. After all Sonic is the fastest animal on the planet. I can see him as the love child of a massive pikachoo/shiek/fox/kirby foursome. Anywho, the FINAL SMASH is what I'm getting to. It would be like bower's in that the move doesn't acually give damage. When Sonic gets the final smash, the sky goes dark, the choir sings, the birds chirp, ext. The chaos emeralds circle around sonic turning him into super sonic of course, this is from several of his games. Anyway he would turn gold and shiny and the ladies would sweat when they saw him. And basically for a little while he becomes an unstoppable lightening bolt on crack. he may even get a chilli dog before it's all over.
OH YEAH. I forgot one thing. It really doesn't matter about sonic or anyone else for that matter, because IKE is gonna destroy the competion anyway. tootles
first of all, good job on the move set. The only thing that I could think that would be different is if he were to have a projectyle, it would be similar to metal sonic in StH2, where he spins and shoots darts in every direction. Sounds a little cheap but oh well. That and the upB, I think it would be more of a pika-type move where you would get two really fast zapps in different directions. After all Sonic is the fastest animal on the planet. I can see him as the love child of a massive pikachoo/shiek/fox/kirby foursome. Anywho, the FINAL SMASH is what I'm getting to. It would be like bower's in that the move doesn't acually give damage. When Sonic gets the final smash, the sky goes dark, the choir sings, the birds chirp, ext. The chaos emeralds circle around sonic turning him into super sonic of course, this is from several of his games. Anyway he would turn gold and shiny and the ladies would sweat when they saw him. And basically for a little while he becomes an unstoppable lightening bolt on crack. he may even get a chilli dog before it's all over.
OH YEAH. I forgot one thing. It really doesn't matter about sonic or anyone else for that matter, because IKE is gonna destroy the competion anyway. tootles
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