Oasis Mafia - Over!

[Wiisp]

What’s a role token? I take it that it’s a game mechanic that I’m unaware of. Could you give me a synopsis? (Not asking for a roleclaim, just what the tokens are)

I mean they're just roles?
I was given a 1-shot token of [redacted]
and a 1-shot token of [redacted]

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

are we getting snowed by a
Ranmaru/Sabrar/UP team?
further lowering of the PoE depends on how Boom/Z25 respond today

I like 2/3 of that. Z25 and BoomFrog are also likely candidates on that team.

 

[Sabrar]

Yo scum!Sabrar chill out lol

Yeah, if you don't see the issue with that then I can't help you man.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I mean they're just roles?
I was given a 1-shot token of [redacted]
and a 1-shot token of [redacted]

Oh. I thought it was something similar to Token Power mafia but I guess not. Did you do anything in particular to receive them?

 

[Jackrito]

I liked Z25 yesterday but that was more because he felt different to Token where he was scum. The lack of voting is a worry though. On the weekend when I'm free I will reveulate him and everyone else.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Yeah, if you don't see the issue with that then I can't help you man.

No I do see the issue, because you can’t know for sure whether I’m lying or not. Sadly for you though, I’m not lying. I don’t know anything about role tokens. That is my entire role. I’m just saying I’m confused how you’re still resolved to pushing me.

 

[Wiisp]

given I can't die today
I am not at all worried about pressure
y'all can test this and try hammering me at one point if you still think I am a wolf

Jackrito
I kinda do want to get a read on UP based on his content as well
mechanics can be deceiving, and bravado isn't really hard to fake as a wolf

 

[Jackrito]

given I can't die today
I am not at all worried about pressure
y'all can test this and try hammering me at one point if you still think I am a wolf

Jackrito
I kinda do want to get a read on UP based on his content as well
mechanics can be deceiving, and bravado isn't really hard to fake as a wolf

Especially if someone's town game is based off it which Ranmaru appears to be. They are way better reasons to clear him.

 

[Wiisp]

are you saying there are better reasons that exist in this game to town read?
or is that just a general statement of, "Mechanics and tone are ****" lol

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Jackrito
LaserGuy
Pythag
Wiisp
Maven
Ranmaru
Z25
BoomFrog
Sabrar

Not included: 3DSNinja

Wiisp
LaserGuy
Maven
Jackrito
Ranmaru
BoomFrog
Z25
Sabrar

 

[Wiisp]

Wiisp
LaserGuy
Maven
Jackrito
Ranmaru
BoomFrog
Z25
Sabrar

i dont hate it?
The Maven read is a little questionable though, can you help me there?

 

[Jackrito]

are you saying there are better reasons that exist in this game to town read?
or is that just a general statement of, "Mechanics and tone are ****" lol

What I'm saying is the way Ran is moving the game foward and pushing everywhere is more of a town thing. Then he had confidence in his lynch which is easily fakeable.

Well in general everything is fakeable but Ran has a progressive play that makes sense as town.

It just felt like a lazy way to try and clear someone.

 

[Jackrito]

Have to admire the way UP still does his reads after being attacked for it most of day one.

 

[Wiisp]

ahh, ya Ranmaru being a wolf is still like deep levels of tinfoil
UP's conclusion there is just kinda weird?
its not like anyone was thinking, "Ranmaru is probably a wolf here"
so idk why there was focus there

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

i dont hate it?
The Maven read is a little questionable though, can you help me there?

Maven does what Maven do. I do like their final posts concerning 3DS and my wagon, and I suppose that their skepticism could be a result of information in the game. However, I did share many of the same sentiments with them, even if they weren’t here the whole day. Because of this, I’m inclined to say that they are probably above a null read. Quality is more important than quality, and I can firmly recall all of Maven’s stances. I cannot day the same for Z25, as an example.

 

[Z25]

I very much doubt that UP is mafia if he originally started with the insomniac role
I say started because I was given two tokens that I couldn't use given that my ability was compulsive
there really isn't a need to say what those abilities are
I will say that Sabrar didnt lie about his flavor, still ain't sure what that means in terms of his alignment though

So if what I’m understanding is right, your exactly what I was looking for with my Role.

Im bessie the delayed neighbor. Any action I take at night is delayed to the next night. Except the problem is I have no ability. This is why I soft claimed as I was positive an item dealer was in play to interact with my role.

EDWOP for Z25
You literally took a god damn back seat to pretty much all of day 1, didn’t vote anyone because u didn’t want to put Ninja close to L1? What about his partners, what about anyone? Like where the hell is the town motivation in not voting anyone?

accidently posted it

I would not call my play back seating when I contributed a lot to the thought process of town yesterday and put out some solid content. Votes do not mean everything and should not be the main focus for a slot’s read

Now that I think about it, he’s doing that thing where he tries not to attract attention. I remember him posting but don’t remember anything in particular that he’s done tbh. Now that town went full-on wiseguy and voted out a neighbor, the odds that we hit scum in Z25 are much higher if we give into the “scammer in the hood” theory. I’m down to try it tbh, we can go Sabrar next time

Good now that your here you want to explain to me why your role claim is not what that role actually is in mafia?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

##Z25

Highest probability to be scum, even if Sabrar was scummier in general from my point of view.

 

[Wiisp]

lmao I remember saying something about z25
and Ranmaru was just like, "Z25 IS TOWN"
and I still have no idea why that is a thing
I will argue that yes Z25 hasn't done anything wolfy, outside thinking no voting makes him a wolf
which I will say, not voting at all is garbage if he is town
that he really isn't "townie"

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Good now that your here you want to explain to me why your role claim is not what that role actually is in mafia?

No. You’re guess is as good as mine. I’m the insomniac, not the amnesiac. I can post during the night. Problem?

 

[Jackrito]

ahh, ya Ranmaru being a wolf is still like deep levels of tinfoil
UP's conclusion there is just kinda weird?
its not like anyone was thinking, "Ranmaru is probably a wolf here"
so idk why there was focus there

I said this day one if Ran is a wolf I worry about it in the late game. I'm treating him the same way I treat Cross atm. I have paranoia on the slot., but they move game foward so much it harms town too much if wrong.

 

[Z25]

Maven does what Maven do. I do like their final posts concerning 3DS and my wagon, and I suppose that their skepticism could be a result of information in the game. However, I did share many of the same sentiments with them, even if they weren’t here the whole day. Because of this, I’m inclined to say that they are probably above a null read. Quality is more important than quality, and I can firmly recall all of Maven’s stances. I cannot day the same for Z25, as an example.

Then you should pay a damn good amount of attention next time.

Maven made like 10 posts tops, I have probably triple that, if not more. No wonder why it be easier.

Super weak reasoning to trust Maven on that especially when you claimed to re read the t he was last night. Clearly you didn’t pay enough attention.

 

[Wiisp]

contributed a lot my ass
you made nice-sounding posts
you are very articulate with your words, I will give you that
which probably inflates the towniness of your posts

 

[Wiisp]

Then you should pay a damn good amount of attention next time.

Maven made like 10 posts tops, I have probably triple that, if not more. No wonder why it be easier.

Super weak reasoning to trust Maven on that especially when you claimed to re read the t he was last night. Clearly you didn’t pay enough attention.

the shade is strong in this one

 

[Z25]

No. You’re guess is as good as mine. I’m the insomniac, not the amnesiac. I can post during the night. Problem?

That’s not a good answer. Zen definitely knows enough to know what this role is:
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Insomniac

Why is it completely different to yours? Because if I had to guess your name is different and you want that hidden

 

[Wiisp]

Good now that your here you want to explain to me why your role claim is not what that role actually is in mafia?

I mean I found insomniac on MU
it's different yes
but like Why doesn't he just claim his actual role, if he is in fact lying here?

 

[Z25]

contributed a lot my ass
you made nice-sounding posts
you are very articulate with your words, I will give you that
which probably inflates the towniness of your posts

Articulate and me definitely do not go in the same sentence during mafia lmao. Go read some of my older games

 

[Wiisp]

Articulate and me definitely do not go in the same sentence during mafia lmao. Go read some of my older games

you were really well-spoken in sorcerer
maybe its your own self-bias so you dont think so, but that was pretty much why you pocketed me in that game

 

[Z25]

I mean I found insomniac on MU
it's different yes
but like Why doesn't he just claim his actual role, if he is in fact lying here?

Considering Up loves the mafia wiki, I’m guessing there’s a rare role like this that is aimed at scum, akin to how godfather reads townie, this would let scum look better. Combing the Wiki now so I can find answers

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Why is it completely different to yours? Because if I had to guess your name is different and you want that hidden

I can post during the night. This is mod confirmed. Give me a role that can do that. There is none to my knowledge. My role is called the insomniac. That’s all there is to it. I don’t have any reason to call it something different, “UnLeSs Im MaFiA”.

 

[Z25]

you were really well-spoken in sorcerer
maybe its your own self-bias so you dont think so, but that was pretty much why you pocketed me in that game

I was definitely better speech wise there but the quote in my sig is there for a reason lol

 

[Jackrito]

I mean I found insomniac on MU
it's different yes
but like Why doesn't he just claim his actual role, if he is in fact lying here?

Perhaps host just went with the literal meaning and is treating it like a trait instead.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Considering Up loves the mafia wiki, I’m guessing there’s a rare role like this that is aimed at scum, akin to how godfather reads townie, this would let scum look better. Combing the Wiki now so I can find answers

There is a redirect from “Insomniac” to “Watcher” that was created by a single purpose account to make one edit about their own insomniac role, which was quickly reverted to a redirect. “Insomniac” is never mentioned as an alternative name, and the redirect is hardly official.

 

[Wiisp]

I dont get why UP lies here
your explanation doesnt help at all

 

[Z25]

given I can't die today
I am not at all worried about pressure
y'all can test this and try hammering me at one point if you still think I am a wolf

Jackrito
I kinda do want to get a read on UP based on his content as well
mechanics can be deceiving, and bravado isn't really hard to fake as a wolf

I’m still weary on this. An item dealer supposedly and they can’t by lunched. Considering most item dealers have Bullet Proofs and trackers, that’s a big PR if at play here and that’s the items

 

[Wiisp]

There is a redirect from “Insomniac” to “Watcher” that was created by a single purpose account to make one edit about their own insomniac role, which was quickly reverted to a redirect. “Insomniac” is never mentioned as an alternative name, and the redirect is hardly official.

that's mafia scum, on MU the insomniac role is a self-voyeur? I believe voyeur is the one that sees actions

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I’m guessing there’s a rare role like this that is aimed at scum, akin to how godfather reads townie, this would let scum look better

It’s almost like... you’re sowing doubt... because you’re scum...

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

that's mafia scum, on MU the insomniac role is a self-voyeur? I believe voyeur is the one that sees actions

Idk. Insomniac sounded made up to me when I read it so I didn’t look much into it beyond that. Did not see that it shared a name with another role.

 

[Jackrito]

I’m still weary on this. An item dealer supposedly and they can’t by lunched. Considering most item dealers have Bullet Proofs and trackers, that’s a big PR if at play here and that’s the items

Did he not say he was given the tokens though.

 

[Wiisp]

idk if its an item dealer or what it is
all I know is I got two tokens
if I am a wolf with those actions already, I am not putting myself in a spot which pretty much requires me to claim them at one point
given they probably wouldn't look that town anyways

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Im bessie the delayed neighbor. Any action I take at night is delayed to the next night. Except the problem is I have no ability. This is why I soft claimed as I was positive an item dealer was in play to interact with my role.

Tbh this seems legit