Oasis Mafia - Over!

[Sabrar]

You really think I'd spill TMI that hard? What has seemingly changed your mind now?

Nothing has changed. I am still unsure about you because you love to play scummy as town.

 

[ranmaru]

Sabrar was saying he believed you are likely scum for it, yet still was more confident in Ninja and UP. (Believing that you might be buddies)

 

[ranmaru]

Boom, can you explain what you think was Sabrar's motivation, and explain the scum and town motivation, and then say which is more likely and why.

 

[ranmaru]

LaserGuy Why haven't you commented on this interaction yet?

 

[Xivii]

Vote Count 1.16


Ninja (4) - Laser, Ran, Jack, Wisp [L-2]


Sabrar (2) - Utopian, Boom


Boom (1) - Ninja


Maven (1) - pythag


Not Voting (3)
Maven, Z25, Sabrar​

Spoiler: History

P1
Sabrar #Laser
Ninja #UP
pythag #Maven
Ran #Jack
Laser #Ran
UP #Jack
UP #Unv
UP #Sabrar
Z25 #pythag
Boom #Sabrar
Laser #Wiisp
Ran #Ninja

P2
Jack #Laser
Boom #Unv
Boom #Jack
Ran #Laser

P3-P4*
Z25 #Unv

P4-P5*
Laser #Sabrar
Ran #Unv
Ran #Ninja
Sabrar #Unv
Sabrar #UP
Jack #Unv
UP #Unv
UP #Ninja

P5-P7*
Jack #pythag
Boom #Unv
Boom #Maven
Wiisp #Ninja

P7-P9*
Wiisp #Unv
UP #Unv
UP #Boom

P10
Jack #Laser

P12
UP #Unv
UP #Sabrar
Boom #Unv
Boom #UP

P13-15*
Laser #Unv
Laser #Ninja
Ninja #Unv
Ninja #Ran
Ran #Unv
Ran #Ninja

P15-P18*
Jack #Ninja
Wisp #Ninja
Wiisp #Boom

P21
Wisp #Ninja

P22
Wisp #Unv

P23-P25*
Wisp #Ninja
Ran #Unv
Ran #Boom
Wisp #Boom
Jack #Boom
Boom #Ninja

P26-P29
Ninja #Unv
Wisp #pythag
Boom #pythag
Ninja #Boom
Ran #Unv
Ran #Ninja
Jack #Ninja
Wisp #Ninja
Boom #Sabrar

P30
Wisp #Boom
Sabrar #Ninja

P31
Wisp #Ninja
Sabrar #Unv

Notes
None

Players and Events
Link

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to execute!

Deadline: Monday, April 20, 2:00pm EDT

 

[LaserGuy]

LaserGuy Why haven't you commented on this interaction yet?

It hasn't really affected my reads on either of them much. I don't have the meta read of them being able to read each other well by D1 (though I'm skeptical of this idea in general). On the whole I think BoomFrog comes off somewhat better as Sabrar was arguably being uncharitable toward him, but I do think it's possible that Sabrar didn't recall the games being referenced which are now at least 2 years old. I think Sabrar is still probably Town. I still lean marginally scum on BoomFrog but I don't feel confident reading him D1 and will hopefully be able to PoE him later in the game if it comes to that.

 

[Z25]

ranmaru anything else you want to ask or should I just hammer?

 

[Z25]

ranmaru anything else you want to ask or should I just hammer?

This also applies to anyone viewing the thread right now.

 

[ranmaru]

Wait for Boom to answer my question, and myself to update my reads before doing so.

 

[LaserGuy]

I think we're at L-2.

 

[Z25]

I think we're at L-2.

You might be right actually, I think Sabar or jack unvoted last night.

 

[Z25]

Vote Count 1.16


Ninja (4) - Laser, Ran, Jack, Wisp [L-2]


Sabrar (2) - Utopian, Boom


Boom (1) - Ninja


Maven (1) - pythag


Not Voting (3)
Maven, Z25, Sabrar​

Spoiler: History

P1
Sabrar #Laser
Ninja #UP
pythag #Maven
Ran #Jack
Laser #Ran
UP #Jack
UP #Unv
UP #Sabrar
Z25 #pythag
Boom #Sabrar
Laser #Wiisp
Ran #Ninja

P2
Jack #Laser
Boom #Unv
Boom #Jack
Ran #Laser

P3-P4*
Z25 #Unv

P4-P5*
Laser #Sabrar
Ran #Unv
Ran #Ninja
Sabrar #Unv
Sabrar #UP
Jack #Unv
UP #Unv
UP #Ninja

P5-P7*
Jack #pythag
Boom #Unv
Boom #Maven
Wiisp #Ninja

P7-P9*
Wiisp #Unv
UP #Unv
UP #Boom

P10
Jack #Laser

P12
UP #Unv
UP #Sabrar
Boom #Unv
Boom #UP

P13-15*
Laser #Unv
Laser #Ninja
Ninja #Unv
Ninja #Ran
Ran #Unv
Ran #Ninja

P15-P18*
Jack #Ninja
Wisp #Ninja
Wiisp #Boom

P21
Wisp #Ninja

P22
Wisp #Unv

P23-P25*
Wisp #Ninja
Ran #Unv
Ran #Boom
Wisp #Boom
Jack #Boom
Boom #Ninja

P26-P29
Ninja #Unv
Wisp #pythag
Boom #pythag
Ninja #Boom
Ran #Unv
Ran #Ninja
Jack #Ninja
Wisp #Ninja
Boom #Sabrar

P30
Wisp #Boom
Sabrar #Ninja

P31
Wisp #Ninja
Sabrar #Unv

Notes
None

Players and Events
Link

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to execute!

Deadline: Monday, April 20, 2:00pm EDT

Ah it is L-2 then we will need someone else.

 

[ranmaru]

TOWN [Sabrar > Z25 > Pythag > Laser | Boom | Maven | UP > Jack > Wisp > Ninja] SCUM

Thanks to Z's #1225, I'm putting Pythag up slightly, but below Z. Boom is null-town, because I liked his #1108, yet it's the only post I found believable from him.

 

[ranmaru]

If Boom doesn't respond by 1:50 PM EDT (in twenty minutes), hammer Ninja at that time.

 

[ranmaru]

Why do I have to talk about Jack today, I don't get why day 1 we have to read everyone. He is just not someone I want to evaluate today, leave me be

Hold Wisp to this Day 2.

 

[Sabrar]

There is no need to hammer, we have plurality. If no other train is close then hammering achieves nothing.

 

[ranmaru]

I still want people voting by the end of the day. If there is no hammer, make it clear why you are voting where you are and not the train that is dying by plurality.

 

[ranmaru]

Voting creates a paper trail we can look back on in future days. So it's important y'all are voting by the end of the day.

 

[ranmaru]

It's actually important to always keep your vote in play all day, though. So try to keep votes in play as much as you can in future days. (That is pro-town)

 

[BoomFrog]

Boom, can you explain what you think was Sabrar's motivation, and explain the scum and town motivation, and then say which is more likely and why.

As Sabrar said, I'm good at reading him, especially since I have the most experience with his meta. The lynch on me was looking quite serious with 3-5 votes without Sabrar's contribution. All Scum-Sabrar had to do to eleminate a significant threat was not prevent my lynch. That's why he gave the very non-committal read. I end up going against the crowd D1 in almost every game for one reason or another. Just the fact that he only wrote a short response to the situation is already suspicious. Sabrar is nothing if not verbose.

All that said, I'd still pick a Ninja lynch over sabrar right now. Town sabrar is valuable and I want him to have time to prove he exists to me.

I can hammer if we think it could matter.

 

[Sabrar]

I don't believe in that theory but I think we should discuss this outside of the game.

 

[ranmaru]

I expected you to say that, Sabrar. I agree with discussing it outside of the game.

 

[Z25]

Alright I can’t hammer but here’s my vote since discussion is pretty much done:

Vote: ##3ds

 

[ranmaru]

I want a hammer.

 

[BoomFrog]

##3DSNinja

 

[Sabrar]

Can you explain why?

 

[ranmaru]

I've already explained why I want votes on the train, to show that players are committing to it, rather then being off the wagon.

 

[BoomFrog]

I assume the rule is no taking after hammer right? I've hammered.

 

[Sabrar]

With 7 minutes left from the day and no other trains happening a hammer doesn't show commitment. The lynch is unavoidable.

 

[Sabrar]

No such rule in op, in Crossover we could talk until mod called it. I guess Ranmaru knows the customs best here.

 

[ranmaru]

There isn't a mention of twilight in the rules, so I assume it's safe to say we shouldn't talk.

 

[Sabrar]

Twilight is mentioned in my role-pm.

 

[Xivii]

You can talk until a mod verifies that a lynch has been reached.

A lynch has been reached! Flip incoming.

 

[ranmaru]

Ok. Then on that: For people off the wagon, what is important is that your stance is clear.

 

[BoomFrog]

W/e, no rules against it I can see. I hammered because I can imagine there are roles that interact with hammering, and generally I think such roles assume hammering is a pro town thing to do. Like if you can't build a consensus then that's bad for town.

If I just ate a bomb or something weird then so be it, seems unlikely though.

 

[Xivii]

dammit bobby

 

[BoomFrog]

Whoops. So easy to get ninjad the way this forum works. Sorry.

 

[Xivii]

Vote Count 1F

An execution has been reached!


Ninja (6) - Laser, Ran, Jack, Wisp, Z25, Boom [L-0]


Sabrar (1) - Utopian


Boom (1) - Ninja


Maven (1) - pythag


Not Voting (2)
Maven, Sabrar​

Spoiler: History

P1
Sabrar #Laser
Ninja #UP
pythag #Maven
Ran #Jack
Laser #Ran
UP #Jack
UP #Unv
UP #Sabrar
Z25 #pythag
Boom #Sabrar
Laser #Wiisp
Ran #Ninja

P2
Jack #Laser
Boom #Unv
Boom #Jack
Ran #Laser

P3-P4*
Z25 #Unv

P4-P5*
Laser #Sabrar
Ran #Unv
Ran #Ninja
Sabrar #Unv
Sabrar #UP
Jack #Unv
UP #Unv
UP #Ninja

P5-P7*
Jack #pythag
Boom #Unv
Boom #Maven
Wiisp #Ninja

P7-P9*
Wiisp #Unv
UP #Unv
UP #Boom

P10
Jack #Laser

P12
UP #Unv
UP #Sabrar
Boom #Unv
Boom #UP

P13-15*
Laser #Unv
Laser #Ninja
Ninja #Unv
Ninja #Ran
Ran #Unv
Ran #Ninja

P15-P18*
Jack #Ninja
Wisp #Ninja
Wiisp #Boom

P21
Wisp #Ninja

P22
Wisp #Unv

P23-P25*
Wisp #Ninja
Ran #Unv
Ran #Boom
Wisp #Boom
Jack #Boom
Boom #Ninja

P26-P29
Ninja #Unv
Wisp #pythag
Boom #pythag
Ninja #Boom
Ran #Unv
Ran #Ninja
Jack #Ninja
Wisp #Ninja
Boom #Sabrar

P30
Wisp #Boom
Sabrar #Ninja

P31
Wisp #Ninja
Sabrar #Unv

P32
Z25 #Ninja
Boom #Ninja

Notes
None

Players and Events
Link

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to execute!

Deadline: Monday, April 20, 2:00pm EDT

 

[Xivii]

3DS Ninja has been executed! He was...

Spoiler: Role Reveal

Sabrar from xkcd!

Hello 3DSNinja, you are Sabrar (xkcd), Town [Missing] Neighbor!

Neighbor: You share a neighborhood with [Player] and [Player] and may communicate with them in the provided topic at any time during the Day and Night phases so long as you are alive.

[Missing]

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

It is now Night 1, Dusk.​

Dusk ends in 24 hours.
Night Ends in 48 hours.

UtopianPoyzin and Maven have ~11 hours before being replaced. If they must be replaced, I may pause the deadline.

 

[Xivii]

Seeking a replacement for Maven. The deadline for Night and Dusk is on hold until then.