Official Notable Players List (Aug '15): Luigi & ZSS

[Bloodcross]

changed it shaya, now we B O N N I E B O Y S

i should be on that chart too. there are way too many fox players lol

 

[ぱみゅ]

Man, I'm pretty sure Wonf is better than most of those Sonics.
Too bad our country has the horrible tradition of not posting results at all...

 

[Deleted member]

Sheik & Diddy are on the front page.
Time for the next two big-name characters: Sonic and Fox.

Sonic

Manny | USA | 03/15
6WX | USA, Atlantic North | 03/15 | Losses: Ito, Fatality
Seagull Joe | USA | 03/15
Espy | USA | 04/15
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Komorikiri (古森霧) |

| 05/15
JT |

| 06/15 | GimR
LouRich |

| 06/15 | Ksev
Ixis |

Europe, U.K. | 06/15
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Octo (オクト) |

| 05/15
Kuraudo |

| 06/15 | Alphicans
Yoshi (よっシィ) |

| 06/15 | Nyanko
BlueTerrorist |

USA, Atlantic North | 08/15 | MikeKirby
KEN |

Japan | 08/15 | Brood

Fox

LarryLurr (DEHF) | USA, Pacific West | 03/15 | Tyrant, Vinnie, Xzax, ESAM, Mr.R
NAKAT | USA, Atlantic North | 03/15 | Lossesoke, Falln, Kamicario
Megafox | USA | 05/15
Xzax | USA, Pacific West | 03/15 | Mr.Concon, RichBrown
GrimTurtle (UltimateRazer) | USA | 05/15
Nietono | Japan | 03/15 | Tearbear, Yuzu, Umeki
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Snow |

USA, Atlantic North | 08/15 | Mr. Eric, Fatality, VaBengal, DunnoBro, Average Joe, GimR, Feel Tension
Ksev |

| 03/15
Sodrek |

| 05/15 | Mr.R
Feel Tension |

| 06/15 | Mr. Eric, Average Joe, GimR
C.R.Z. |

Europe, U.K. | 08/15 | J.Miller
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Yui (ゆい) |

| 05/15
SH |

| 06/15 | Brood, Earth
Dugan |

USA, Atlantic North | 08/15 | Angel Cortes
Boringman |

USA, Pacific West | 08/15 | Trevonte

Xzax didn't lose to mrconcon and richbrown with fox, he beat them with fox.

 

[Yikarur]

http://smashboards.com/rankings/big-agon-singles-bracket.7241/event
Here is a tournament bracket from Big Agon.

Videos:
http://www.twitch.tv/smashlabsde/c/6894442?t=10h11m WSF
http://www.twitch.tv/smashlabsde/c/6894442?t=12h23m WF
http://www.twitch.tv/smashlabsde/c/6894442?t=13h06m GF

He beat cyve, who got Top3 at Apex Teams with Mr-R and few french players and he is basically >>> every german player.

 

[Shaya]

Xzax didn't lose to mrconcon and richbrown with fox, he beat them with fox.

I made a little bit of a mess and flipped up those columns to who they beat (unless stated otherwise). I'm going to be doing the same in the first degree tables over time too, it's a lot less messier, especially between 2nd to 1st degree transitions and vice versa.

changed it shaya, now we B O N N I E B O Y S

i should be on that chart too. there are way too many fox players lol

There are quite a lot of Fox players. As have been since game release really (he was third most used character since very early on).
You're actually 2nd degree because of the Evo win over Vinnie, but I don't know much else. Tell me of your quest~ (in the last 3 months).


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Semifer needs to find a link into the system.
Gluttony, J.Miller, Mr.R, Sodrek, Ixis, S1-14, C.R.Z?

 

[juddy96]

Blacktwins should be on the list, even though he plays half the cast lol, got sent into losers by Dunston's in R2 and then tore through losers en route to getting 2nd. His last 3 victories were SuperGirlKels, Yoh, and finally a tier 1 victory against Poke.

Also, Chris Fisch should be listed as Canadian, not American. And he lost to Wawasi's and Yoh's .

Smash Nexus in Ottawa

http://smashboards.com/threads/smash-nexus-results-august-22-23rd-ottawa-ontario.415338/

 

[Bloodcross]

I don't have many results Shaya. I used to place top 3 consistently in my region, but after EVO I haven't been doing so well.

So probably 2nd or 3rd degree. For reference I think I'm below the MdVa foxes but higher than everyone else.

 

[Macchiato]

http://vgbootcamp.challonge.com/SatX08252015SSB4
Angel Cortez beat Pink Fresh
Snow beat Angel Cortez, GimR, Darkflame, and Feel Tension
Pink Fresh beat Tantalus and Mister Eric
GimR beat Submediant and Aposl
Poyo beat Guy
Jedi beat Poyo
Serynder beat Jedi
Mister Eric beat GimR and Average Joe
Feel Tension beat Average Joe, Logic, and Angel Cortez
Logic beat TKbreezy, DunnoBro, and Serynder
TKbreezy beat Aposl and Darkflame
Darkflame beat Poyo

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Good **** @SnowballBob33

 

[Jucchan]

Well, Ranai is number 1 in Umebura rankings now. http://piosuma.blog.jp/archives/24157620.html

 

[Dagon97]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KESb5xknRU
Cacogen 2-0's Bladewise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir72SM0ML_w
Firefly 2-0's Cacogen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4XzRQX-rDI&list=PLc2WO8ScJhx945kz7GDI3Ddq8lnrmFxr9&index=22
BigD 2-0's Captain L

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55CGOGOfQ9U&index=23&list=PLc2WO8ScJhx945kz7GDI3Ddq8lnrmFxr9
Captain L 3-2's Cacogen

 

[Shaya]

Well, Ranai is number 1 in Umebura rankings now. http://piosuma.blog.jp/archives/24157620.html

Due to the large separation between 1-3 and the rest, I'm bumping Ranai & Choco to first degree. At the time of Rain being given that status he was well over twice the points of his next cohort, so that "line" of domination is enough for me.

So for Sonic:

Japan: komo, octo
NA: Manny, Seagull Joe

Is Ixis (EU) notable "enough"?
6WX' results have dropped a lot in recent times, i'm not even sure if he's been using him in tournament over Ryu or others.
Espy is secluded without much national exposure, still has great results though within the southwest context.

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Fox:
NA: LarryLurr, Megafox
JP: Nietono
EU: Sodrek, C.R.Z

NA's foxes from there are complicated. Many players have a Fox pocket ,while single mains within MD/VA have a pretty solid showing of results.
Xzax and GrimTurtle have relevant first degree wins with Fox. I'm not sure about NAKAT's recent results with Fox if he has them.
Snow and Feel Tension are solid but are second degree.

 

[Macchiato]

http://versus.challonge.com/s4_080615
Ed beat Zee
I asked Ed and he said he won with both

ZEEEEELDAAAAA YAAAAY

 

[Seagull Joe]

Due to the large separation between 1-3 and the rest, I'm bumping Ranai & Choco to first degree. At the time of Rain being given that status he was well over twice the points of his next cohort, so that "line" of domination is enough for me.

So for Sonic:

Japan: komo, octo
NA: Manny, Seagull Joe

Is Ixis (EU) notable "enough"?
6WX' results have dropped a lot in recent times, i'm not even sure if he's been using him in tournament over Ryu or others.
Espy is secluded without much national exposure, still has great results though within the southwest context.

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Fox:
NA: LarryLurr, Megafox
JP: Nietono
EU: Sodrek, C.R.Z

NA's foxes from there are complicated. Many players have a Fox pocket ,while single mains within MD/VA have a pretty solid showing of results.
Xzax and GrimTurtle have relevant first degree wins with Fox. I'm not sure about NAKAT's recent results with Fox if he has them.
Snow and Feel Tension are solid but are second degree.

Feel Tension and Snow just beat Angel (At the same tourney lol). Snow has beat Fatality before (week of smashcon). Feel Tension has beaten me recently (out of state local we both went to). Their wins are just as relevant as Megafox who generally beats Espy most of the time (?).

In addition, 6wx was winning almost every tourney in NorCal. His placements have stagnated to be on par with my placements, but I still feel he should definitely be listed for NA.

I don't think Octo is very good and the full tag of Komo is Komorikiri (Goat at the moment to me). He's an epic memer tho...

http://vgbootcamp.challonge.com/SatX08252015SSB4
Angel Cortez beat Pink Fresh
Snow beat Angel Cortez, GimR, Darkflame, and Feel Tension
Pink Fresh beat Tantalus and Mister Eric
GimR beat Submediant and Aposl
Poyo beat Guy
Jedi beat Poyo
Serynder beat Jedi
Mister Eric beat GimR and Average Joe
Feel Tension beat Average Joe, Logic, and Angel Cortez
Logic beat TKbreezy, DunnoBro, and Serynder
TKbreezy beat Aposl and Darkflame
Darkflame beat Poyo

Poyo was vs Darkflame. Do not confuse the two.

 

[RaptorTEC]

I guess I can post some of my results. How far back should I go?

 

[zeezee]

http://versus.challonge.com/s4_080615
Ed beat Zee
I asked Ed and he said he won with both

ZEEEEELDAAAAA YAAAAY

Bruh that's not me lmao, I always have the RiBB tag behind my name.

 

[Macchiato]

Bruh that's not me lmao, I always have the RiBB tag behind my name.

rly? oh I saw villager then became happy because another Zelda.

RIP MY DREAMS

 

[Jucchan]

I'm going to agree with Seagull Joe and say that 6WX probably deserves to be listed over Octo. Octo has been placing lower than other Sonics in the same region, for example Yoshi at Umebura 16 and both KEN and RYO at Umebura 18. imo Komorikiri is the only Sonic that can be listed for Japan at the moment.

 

[Macchiato]

http://versus.challonge.com/paragon_la_2015_s4_singles
Day beat Myran
Dath beat Day

http://versus.challonge.com/s4_070915
Xaltis beat Seibrik

http://versus.challonge.com/s4_081315
Seibrik beat NickRiddle

http://versus.challonge.com/s4_061115
Ed beat Xaltis

http://versus.challonge.com/s4_052815
Xaltis beat MVD and ESAM

http://versus.challonge.com/s4_082015
LordFrieza beat Ed

 

[Shaya]

I guess I can post some of my results. How far back should I go?

3 months is the limit, but anything within reason as you probably should've been on this earlier~

Sonic:
US: Manny, Seagull Joe, 6WX
JP: Komorikiri

Would probably be happy to wrap it off with Espy as he's degree #1 again.

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Fox:
NA: LarryLurr, Megafox, Snow, Feel Tension
JP: Nietono
EU: Sodrek

Mentions: Grim Turtle, Xzax

 

[Zigsta]

While Fox is being discussed--Nakat beat MVD's Diddy at Smash Con. Not sure how this would affect the list. I don't follow EC too much, but I just happened to watch this match, so I'm not sure who else Nakat has beaten recently with his Fox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NuihlVwfx4

 

[juddy96]

Umebura 19

Abadango 2-0's 2 of the 3 best Sheik's in Japan with Pacman. He wins the tournament. Choco misses top 8. Greninja and Falcon make top 8. aMSa drowns in pools. A bunch of other stuff happens too. Find out here: http://challonge.com/Umebura19T

 

[FullMoon]

Oh, the Greninja was Some. He's one of the wifi warrior Greninjas that pretty much never goes to tournaments.

I guess this is what happens when he does go lol

 

[Jucchan]

Umebura 19:

Degree 1
Edge Top 60 (43rd)

Degree 2
Paseriman　[ぱせりまん] Promoted from Degree 3. Top 16, Victory over Choco.
Daiki 4th Place, Victory over Nietono.

Degree 3
taranito Promoted from Degree 4. 3rd, Victory over Daiki, Shu, and Paseriman.
bafuto [baフト] Top 16, Victory over aMSa and Umeki.
Some [そめ]Top 6, Victory over Paseriman
RYO Victory over Yuzu

Degree 4
FILIP Top 16, Victory over kept, Victory over Sylph and DIO at Hyper Sumabato.
Motsunabe [もつなべ]Victory over Earth

 

[Deleted member]

http://levelup.challonge.com/SCR2015_Prelude2Smash4
SlayerZ just monstered through this omg.
1st round was just the bye indicating who started from winners, not actual result
Zan beat Tearbear
SlayerZ beat Zenyou
SlayerZ beat Ally
gsmVoiD beat K9
Zan beat LarryLurr
Mr. ConCon beat Falln
SlayerZ beat gsmVoiD
Mr. ConCon beat Zan
SlayerZ beat Mr. ConCon WF
Tearbear beat K9
Falln beat Zenyou
LarryLurr beat Falln
Ally beat Tearbear
Ally beat Zan
gsmVoiD beat LarryLurr
Ally beat gsmVoiD
Mr. ConCon beat Ally
Mr. ConCon beat SlayerZ GF1
SlayerZ beat Mr. ConCon GF2

 

[warionumbah2]

Tyrant() beat Ally()

http://www.twitch.tv/fadgames

 

[W.A.C.]

M2K beat both MVD and Zex with Donkey Kong, and made it to Winner's Finals at PAX. At this point, it's pretty safe to say M2K has become a top level DK player in a brief amount of time. Vinnie also took a set off of ZeRo, so if there's any doubt about whether or not Vinnie should be listed as a top level Shiek, there you go.

 

[Pazx]

Vinnie () beating ZeRo (/): http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/v/13657193

 

[warionumbah2]

Tyrant() beat Ally()

http://www.twitch.tv/fadgames

Ally beat him in losers. 3-2

 

[Illuminose]

dekillsage beat DKWill at Summer Jam 9

Mew2King beat MVD at PAX

Vinnie took a set from ZeRo at PAX

 

[Deleted member]

http://challonge.com/fad818_3
Wonky results all over LOL
Tyrant beat Ally
Zork beat K9
TLTC beat Zenyou
gsmVoiD beat Leepuff
gsmVoiD beat LarryLurr
K9 beat Leepuff
Ally beat K9
Zenyou beat LarryLurr
gsmVoiD beat Tyrant
Allybeat Zenyou
Allybeat Tyrant
Allybeat gsmVoiDGF1
gsmVoiD beat AllyGF2

 

[juddy96]

I know this has nothing to do with players beating each other but the new NorCal PR was released tonight.

NorCal has become riddled with upstart sponsors and a lot of crews.

1st Shaky
2nd SiN | Trevonte
3rd NME | Zex
4th BKO | Boringman
5th VnG | JeepySol
6th Dark Rice
7th BKO | Virus
8th Teb
9th Swarm | DSS
10th BKO | Legit
11th BaSK | 3xA
12th Soulimar
13th 1UP | Nitro
14th FONC | Stark
15th 1UP | X
16th GiGa | Jodi Bleek
17th ATR | Scourge
18th Sean
19th 4B | Arikie
20th PHO | Mocha

 

[Shaya]

Shaky lives there now or is it just due to his time in the area recently? (in which case, no 6wx?)

 

[juddy96]

Shaky lives there now or is it just due to his time in the area recently? (in which case, no 6wx?)

6WX was only there for a few weeks so he isn't on the PR. Neither is Ito, who is back in San Diego for school. Shaky is in NorCal for the long haul.

NorCal reminds me of a lesser Japan, with all the diversity and the fact that #4 all the way to #20 (and probably a little further than that) are all capable of beating each other. Except NorCal is hyper aggro, while Japan is... not.

 

[Ori_bro]

Still no Zinoto for Diddy's smh.

 

[Shaya]

Give me head to head results~.
As has been said multiple times, it's not my fault that your scene/self/favourites don't outwardly make their results known, I have to harass people/players enough for information as it is in all sorts of smash related things, I'm not going to do the same for this.
Zinoto is degree1 as it is. But he hasn't attended any large tournaments (recently), nor has any known recent results.
Diddy is a contentious character, being listed as notable under those characters require more than passive aggressive comments/"smh"s.

 

[Illuminose]

I know that Sheik was just finished but Shu needs to be added for Japan. Beat Rain, Nietono, and taranito at Umebura 19.

Also Nietono was playing Sheik and beat Choco. What is this man and his characters lol.

 

[Jucchan]

Nietono played mostly Diddy at Umebura 19 with a bit of Sheik, and I don't think he used Fox at all. Can we just list him as for now since I honestly don't know who he plays anymore? Shu should probably be listed based on results, but I'm not sure about having 3 Sheiks from Japan. I suppose we could add him for now and remove him if he does exceptionally poorly at Umebura F.A.T. or something. On an unrelated note, it's looking like Rain, like Abadango, will be adding Meta Knight to his repertoire so that will be interesting to see.

 

[juddy96]

Oakville Uproar 3 in Oakville, Ontario, Canada

Top 16 bracket http://challonge.com/OU3Singles

Spacedong defeats Astro (not streamed)
Red X defeats Chris Fisch (not streamed)
Yoh defeats Spacedong (not streamed)
Ray Kalm defeats BlackTwins
Red X defeats Poke
Yoh defeats Ray Kalm (not streamed)
Yohdefeats Red X
Astro defeats Chris Fisch (not streamed)
BlackTwins defeats Spacedong
BlackTwins defeats Poke (not streamed)
Astro defeats Ray Kalm
BlackTwins defeats Astro
BlackTwins defeats Red X
Yohdefeats BlackTwins

https://www.youtube.com/user/evenmatchupvod/videos

 

[warionumbah2]

Ito beat Tearbear

Ito's back, he's no longer ****ting on Norcal he's at San Diego and no he's not going Paragon.

http://www.twitch.tv/landiego/v/14341183

He got sent to losers, he was trying to go all Lucina but Ito can't win a tourney with a weaker swordsman. Commentators aren't cringe worthy actually a joy to listen to.
Losers Quarters: Ito() vs Tearbear() - 1:13:50

Losers Semis: Ito() vs Luke() - 1:30:24

Losers Finals: Ito() vs SCB Markus() - 1:35:45

Grand Finals: Ito() vs IC() - 1:43:33