North American ONLINE Player Tier List

[Surri-Sama]

I get a lot more BS from people about Kirby then Pikachu lol

 

[Battlecow]

I love playing against pika with Doug at least. One of my favorite matchups.

Gotta be on DL though, otherwise you have to deal with their campy **** as well (pika isn't ridic good at camping, but pika players still do it more, in my experience).

 

[Fynal]

i really enjoy a good yoshi vs pika, especially edgeguarding the pikaupB

i cant think of any matchup vs kirby that i like

and yes surri ofcourse yer going to get more BS about playing kirby. An average kirby is much easier to learn than an average (insert other character), so people sort of feel cheated when you win with kirby

The sad part is, I called this months ago.

the sad part is, bcow actually did

 

[ballin4life]

I much prefer Falcon vs Pika on Hyrule. Otherwise it is a pika gimp fest

 

[th3kuzinator]

I like mario vs pika, fox vs pika, yoshi vs pika, jiggs vs pika, falcon vs pika

i only like fox vs kirby and somewhat yoshi vs kirby

 

[tacos]

LOL
Why are we taliking about the matches we love and hate?(Someone create a new discussion about this)
Shouldn't we be discussing about the B tier list?

 

[The Star King]

@Fynal Falcon is just as easy as Kirby tbh. The only reason Kirby is hated is because the best defensive character in a game is always hated (Melee Puff, Brawl MK).

 

[SheerMadness]

Yah we need ppl to post their b tier lists again.

Because I have no idea what pages they're on.

 

[Purtle]

I should just become a luigi main.

 

[th3kuzinator]

B tier (not ordered)

Zod
Zhin
yBombb
Sin
Kabal
Denken
Dock
Legendary
Shinzaku
Surri
ImNotPro
MarioReincarnate
Koro
Sextc
LULZ
Ballin'
Streak
th3kuzinator
Saske
Killer
Peek
Unknown's Daughter
Neutrino
A Problem
Kows
Nantes

C Tier (not ordered)

Snake
Lupogg
Nova
Battlecow
Zeus
SoupaMario
Fynal
Sophious
Adam^^
Absolution
PigBenis
CallMeCoca
SmashFinale

Everyone please give thoughts on this list and alert me if I missed people.

I could also further categorize them into Upper Btier and Lower Btier.

I also feel some of the people in Ctier are right on the cusp, but are not quite b material.

If I made an upper b and lower b, I would be able to move some of the people from C into lower B.

Thx~

 

[Surri-Sama]

Dock and Kows come to mind right away as missing

and how good is killer lol. I dont think ive played him since I've been back (if at all)

 

[ballin4life]

Kuz have I ever played you? Just wondering.

 

[th3kuzinator]

You have. Only once and we were just screwing around back in the old galaxy. I was that ness where you thought I was doing freaky things with pk thunder. Dont know if you remember that ahaha.

Kows and Dock fixd

 

[ballin4life]

Well I'm glad that that one impression got me into B tier lol.

Especially on the old galaxy where I got 7 frames.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I know from your videos that you are a very good player (i think you deserve a tier) but online 5-7 frames you are probably still btier.

Since this is an online tier list, I might have to play you more. I think you are fine in btier though.

 

[Gammelnorsk]

STOP INCLUDING ME IN LISTs DKJASDKFJASDFKA

 

[ballin4life]

I know from your videos that you are a very good player (i think you deserve a tier) but online 5-7 frames you are probably still btier.

Since this is an online tier list, I might have to play you more. I think you are fine in btier though.

Eh I'm saying you might overrate me from my videos.

It's hard to tell how good someone really is from videos, especially in the approach game. I know that I at least focus mainly on combos when I watch videos.

I do kinda suck online though because I'm only really good with Fox. I don't know how to approach with other characters (besides maybe Falcon).

 

[NovaSmash]

B tier (not ordered)

Zod
Zhin
yBombb
Sin
Kabal
Denken
Dock
Shinzaku
Surri
ImNotPro
MarioReincarnate
Koro
Sextc
LULZ
Ballin'
Streak
th3kuzinator
Saske
Killer
Peek
Unknown's Daughter
Neutrino
A Problem
Kows
Nantes

C Tier (not ordered)

Snake
Battlecow
Zeus
SoupaMario
Fynal
Sophious
Adam^^
Absolution
PigBenis
CallMeCoca
SmashFinale

Everyone please give thoughts on this list and alert me if I missed people.

I could also further categorize them into Upper Btier and Lower Btier.

I also feel some of the people in Ctier are right on the cusp, but are not quite b material.

If I made an upper b and lower b, I would be able to move some of the people from C into lower B.

Thx~

LOL, this is a a joke right, u obviously have something against me not to even put me in C tier, im better than everyone in that list especially pigbenis who i 5 stocked when i first started playing smash, and soupamario has only beat me 1 time out of all the times we played EVER. only person thats better than me in that list is snake. Also putting a problem and neutrino is B tier? Seriously u have no idea wat ur talking about. This is y this list tier list will never work thanks to biased elitist d-bags who hold grudges and wont give REAL list based on skill.

 

[The Star King]

I know from your videos that you are a very good player (i think you deserve a tier) but online 5-7 frames you are probably still btier.

Since this is an online tier list, I might have to play you more. I think you are fine in btier though.

I would avoid judging people from videos.

Ballin was lagging pretty horribly the one time I played him so IDK, I was sandbagging hard because of the lag.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Alright then. I will re-evaluate ballin' the next time we play

Dock is one of the best in Btier. Nuff said.

Killer is boring to play, but he gets the job done. He deserves that spot imo

Neutrino is close, but I put him there due to the recent matches he has played vs me, which he did quite good.

Nova, you are just as boring to play as killer. However, you do rage 10x harder and have significantly worse matchup results vs me compared to killer.

This list is my subjective opinion. Dont get your ego all hurt over it.

 

[The Star King]

Wait, I thought Problem and Zeus were the same person. I guess I'm horribly confused?

People I think are HIGHish B tier:
MarioReincarnate
Kabal
Denken
Dock
ImNotPro
Kows
Surri
th3kuzinator
Peek

 

[NovaSmash]

Alright then. I will re-evaluate ballin' the next time we play


Nova, you are just as boring to play as killer. However, you do rage 10x harder and have significantly worse matchup results vs me compared to killer.

This list is my subjective opinion. Dont get your ego all hurt over it.

...so that means u dont think i should be on any list? wat are u trying to say. Also ur not that exciting to play either, dont fool urself.

 

[Surri-Sama]

I definitely think Nova is at least in C-tier lol

He has been getting BEEF!! man action so

Boring =/= good? D:

I will use Ballins quote for ever regarding this "The criteria for being "good" is winning games"

 

[tacos]

B tier (not ordered)

Zod
Zhin
yBombb
Sin
Kabal
Denken
Dock
Legendary
Shinzaku
Surri
ImNotPro
MarioReincarnate
Koro
Sextc
LULZ
Ballin'
Streak
th3kuzinator
Saske
Killer
Peek
Unknown's Daughter
Neutrino
A Problem
Kows
Nantes
Luppog

C Tier (not ordered)

Snake
Nova
Battlecow
Zeus
SoupaMario
Fynal
Sophious
Adam^^
Absolution
PigBenis
CallMeCoca
SmashFinale

Everyone please give thoughts on this list and alert me if I missed people.

I could also further categorize them into Upper Btier and Lower Btier.

I also feel some of the people in Ctier are right on the cusp, but are not quite b material.

If I made an upper b and lower b, I would be able to move some of the people from C into lower B.

Thx~

(My Order)
B-tier
Zod
Surri
Peek
Koro
th3kuzinator
yBombb
Zhin
Dock
Sextc
Legendary
Kows
LULZ
Sin
Streak
Unknown's Daughter
Nantes

(My Order)
C-tier
Battlecow
Killer
Nova
SoupaMario
Fynal
Zeus
Neutrino
CallMeCoca
Adam
SmashFinale

People I haven't played with or haven't played enough with
Adam
pigbenis
Absolution
Shinzaku
MarioReincarnate
Ballin'
Saske
Luppog
Denken
Kabal
ImNotPro

Kuz I disagree that neutrino and killer be in B tier. I have played both of them I don't feel they are quite B-tier material.
I didn't include myself in any of the list.That is for you guys to decide.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Nova is the one who said the he is a boring ****ty player.

Nova is also either high c or low b, but I think killer is legit mid b

@ Surri, he is already on there. Take a look :<


@ snakes list, basically the same thing as mine except neutrino and killer are c and you took out the players you did not know.

I think neutrino could be c.

The last time i played killer, his kirby gave me a challenge.

 

[tacos]

Nova is the one who said the he is a boring ****ty player.

Nova is also either high c or low b, but I think killer is legit mid b

@ Surri, he is already on there. Take a look :<


@ snakes list, basically the same thing as mine except neutrino and killer are c and you took out the players you did not know.

I think neutrino could be c.

The last time i played killer, his kirby gave me a challenge.

I thought you haven't ordered your list -_-
I have played Killer recently he is good but I just don't think hes good enough to be in B-tier

Spoiler

Anyone with kirby can give anyone a challange jk.

 

[NovaSmash]

Nova is the one who said the he is a boring ****ty player.

.

i said who was a boring player?

(My Order)

(My Order)
C-tier
Battlecow
Killer
Nova
SoupaMario
Fynal
Zeus
Neutrino
CallMeCoca
Adam
SmashFinale

:

i dont even like killer but ill say hes better than battlecow

 

[th3kuzinator]

in your 1058, you called killer a boring ****ty player.

That was of course before you edited it.

I saw it tho

@snake, so wait. Your list is ordered in terms of skill level?


Also dont take my word for it. I may have had an atypical run-in with a specific opponent, or some sub-conscious bias is taking hold. Everyone post or repost their lists so we can average the stuff into the list in the OP

 

[NovaSmash]

in your 1058, you called killer a boring ****ty player.

That was of course before you edited it.

I saw it tho

@snake, so wait. Your list is ordered in terms of skill level?

no, no I didnt

 

[th3kuzinator]

I wont bother arguing it with you. If one of the mods want to go and check his post edit, then that solves it.

Not something worth arguing about over anyway.

Killer has a decent kirby, he gets the job done. He may be boring, but I feel he deserves a higher spot than the ctier players.

 

[tacos]

@snake, so wait. Your list is ordered in terms of skill level?

My list was ordered on how they combo,edgegaurde,grab,use of tilt moves,0 to death, how many stocks do they have after they beat me and simple stuff like that.Was I doing it wrong?

i dont even like killer but ill say hes better than battlecow

Hmn I think your right

 

[th3kuzinator]

Wait, what?

Snake what are you calling me out on in your 1066?

Also, in your tier list, are the players ordered by skill level within said tier?

My tier list was not ordered.

 

[The Star King]

Anybody know about MoonShadow A.K.A. owl?

He is at least B-tier IMO.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Never played him.

Some person named p33c3 is also pretty good.

Pureforsure as well

and FooHaHa

IDK if they play consistently enough to go on the tier lists though

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

Killer is def b tier

 

[th3kuzinator]

Wait, I thought Problem and Zeus were the same person. I guess I'm horribly confused?

A Problem = Pika Flocka Flames

Zeus is someone else. I dont know any of his alts, if he even has any.

 

[Peek~]

B Tier:

Kabal
th3kuzinator
Surri-Sama - MarioReincarnate
Near - ImNotPro

Found my old list, still no addition/major changes. I am still not listing players who dont post regularly/at all on smashbroads

Isnt it too early for C tier? Do we even need to go that far? What about A tier(Fireblaster,Ecartman,Nintendude)? Are they playing regularly?

I took greg off, havent seen him much lately
I had trouble vs Silent Slayers, he should post more

 

[The Star King]

Why only people who post on Smashboards? Gawd.

 

[tacos]

Wait, what?

Snake what are you calling me out on in your 1066?

Also, in your tier list, are the players ordered by skill level within said tier?

My tier list was not ordered.

Idk does it sound like a callout? I knew the tier list you put was not ordered so I decided to order them IMO. I probably need to add and move people around a bit

 

[Divine44]

A Problem = Pika Flocka Flames

Zeus is someone else. I dont know any of his alts, if he even has any.

thing about zeus is i hate hearing him complain about lasers