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NorCal Melee Power Rankings - Summer '15 Update - In Sickness and In Filth

pockyD

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i find this list inferior in relative accuracy to the previous list

not interested in calling people out though, because anything i say is always misconstrued as a personal attack on the people i think are misplaced

if any panelist or anyone is interested in hearing my thoughts though, you can talk to me on aim

i won't be offended if nobody's actually interested though
 

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dont lose to hydro kirby ever again
lol yeah, i guess. even tho i killed myself when HK was dying.

panelists are hella ******** LOL, mike didnt play in 1 tournament the entire time between the last rankings and this one, and for some reason he is still on? i know if mike played, and if this list had any accuracy in it, then mike would be like 8. and hydrokirby should be 15... for beating my marth... lol

i still dont think i should be below phil and hmw. if somebody could explain to me in detail as to why im below them, then yeah. id like to know, im just curious. cus i beat phil and hmw consistently, and tang too. who has phil and hmw beaten that i havent...? i know that hmw beat zhu, that was legit. but what else?

is my drop in rankings because i lost to hydrokirby?

if my drop in rankings was cus of hydrokirby, then alot of ppls rankings should drop, like lunin who lost to keffin. >_>
 

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KFC said:
lol yeah, i guess. even tho i killed myself when HK was dying.
A loss is a loss, irregardless of what happened in game 2 you still lost game 3 and the set, don't complain about it and get better instead.


KFC said:
panelists are hella ******** LOL, mike didnt play in 1 tournament the entire time between the last rankings and this one, and for some reason he is still on? i know if mike played, and if this list had any accuracy in it, then mike would be like 8. and hydrokirby should be 15... for beating my marth... lol
Your right Mike didn't play at all this period, but this period was all of 6 weeks long. He has on the other hand played in 2 tournaments in the last 3 months, and because he did not participate in the past 6 weeks he was moved down 3 spots.

KFC said:
i still dont think i should be below phil and hmw. if somebody could explain to me in detail as to why im below them, then yeah. id like to know, im just curious. cus i beat phil and hmw consistently, and tang too. who has phil and hmw beaten that i havent...? i know that hmw beat zhu, that was legit. but what else?
Personally I thought you went way too high to begin with, you beat Mitchell twice, once at WCSL and again at Zhu 2, didn't do anything at the Stockton tournament, but the others disagreed. Yet in the same period Phil also beat Mitchell twice and attend more tournaments with no major loses.

In this period Phil beat Shroomed, Zelgadis and The Germ at Davis lost to Ranked people at SCSA and lost to you and Mango at Quak's.

Brandon only lost to Paul and Falcomist in Davis, at SCSA he beat Zhu and lost to Mango and Tofu. Finally he lost to you and German at Quaks.

Both had 3 tournaments in which they attended.

You on the other hand had Quak's where although you beat both Phil and Brandon(Which you should of since you are ranked higher then them), you also lost to Hydrokirby. A good win, even a great win doesn't look any where near as good when you have it coupled with a bad loss.

Brandon and Phil both beat people ahead of them on the rankings without losing to people ranked below them. You beat nobody ahead of you and lost to someone not ranked.

is my drop in rankings because i lost to hydrokirby?

if my drop in rankings was cus of hydrokirby, then alot of ppls rankings should drop, like lunin who lost to keffin. >_>
Yes, losing to an unranked player has major effect on your placing. The difference is you don't have a huge win in the period but instead have a huge loss.

Lunin loss to Kheffin was taken in consideration as was his wins over everyone else under him and beating Jeff not once but twice in the prior period. If your going to try and discredit someone try an easier target, not someone who actually goes even and most of the time wins against SS.
 

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oh i wasnt trying to discredit lunin... that wasnt what i was trying to do at all. i was just sayin if ur gonna take my loss against an unranked player, then u should take other ppls losses against unranked players. plus everybody and their mom knows that lunin is hella good. and flukes DO happen, as u can see from lunin losing to keffin.

anyways, if ur gonna say phil has wins over zelgadis and shroomed which i dont, well i beat zel at zhu's tourney #2 and i beat shroomed in a MM at quaks. but yeah i guess ur right, phil DID beat germ's marth and samus afterall

i never played tang at zhu's house tourney #2 either. it was zelgadis who i played.

and i beat hmw at zhu's house tourney #2, and again at quaks. and didnt brandan like.. NOT make it out of pools at WCSL?

on the previous list, lucien was ranked like 9th, and mike was 12th. neither have played during the rankings change. so why did lucien get knocked off completely while mike only went down 3 spots? is this more panelist bias going on? i think so.

oh yea i just remembered, if ur talking about the stockton tournament that im thinking about (which was the only stockton tournament i attended in 08) well i beat phil there, and purposely lost to DP cus hes in my crew. and my marth lost to zelgadis' shiek. brandan lost to DM twice. but idk why ur even bringing that tournament up, it was soooooooooooooo long ago.

is anybody going to the stockton tournament this month?
 

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i 2-0ed brandon in pools at WCSL and got first seed, but kfc 2-0ed me in brackets

kfc for top 5
 

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oh i wasnt trying to discredit lunin... that wasnt what i was trying to do at all. i was just sayin if ur gonna take my loss against an unranked player, then u should take other ppls losses against unranked players. plus everybody and their mom knows that lunin is hella good. and flukes DO happen, as u can see from lunin losing to keffin.
Yes flukes do happen especially to Rey, but the best way to get rid of any doubt is by getting 2nd and beating ranked players such as FMF and SS in the same tourney.


anyways, if ur gonna say phil has wins over zelgadis and shroomed which i dont, well i beat zel at zhu's tourney #2 and i beat shroomed in a MM at quaks. but yeah i guess ur right, phil DID beat germ's marth and samus afterall
First off I never said you didn't have the wins, I simply said you didn't have the wins this period.Phil has wins over zel and shroomed in this period, your win over zel went into account to the previous ranking. If the mm was $10 or up the panel looks into them, it also helps to tell us though. And if you're going to try and discredit someones chars, you might be inclined to know that Germ's Samus 2-0 Lunin at WCSL.

i never played tang at zhu's house tourney #2 either. it was zelgadis who i played.
My mistake but doesn't really help as 2 wins over mitchell is better than 1 over mitchell and one over zel.

and i beat hmw at zhu's house tourney #2, and again at quaks. and didnt brandan like.. NOT make it out of pools at WCSL?
Ok this is all last period information, which in effect doesn't carry as much weight anymore. I did also not agree with Brandon being so high on the first list but then again who else coulda ranked above him?

on the previous list, lucien was ranked like 9th, and mike was 12th. neither have played during the rankings change. so why did lucien get knocked off completely while mike only went down 3 spots? is this more panelist bias going on? i think so
If there were any bias it would be for DM, and there isnt. After Davis Lucien asked to be removed as he isn't planning on attending tournaments for the next several months. Once again please dont make assumptions on things as when the truth later comes out you get caught with your pants down and tend to look rather foolish.
 

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Also to clarify on the MM's thing, I personally think $10 and up is where we start getting serious and as long as both people are using mains and no funky rule settings it can be taken as serious(if not more serious dependent on the amount of money) then a tourney match.
 

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Yes flukes do happen especially to Rey, but the best way to get rid of any doubt is by getting 2nd and beating ranked players such as FMF and SS in the same tourney.
what...? did i not beat ranked players after losing to hydrokirby?

And if you're going to try and discredit someones chars, you might be inclined to know that Germ's Samus 2-0 Lunin at WCSL.
but flukes happen especially to rey, right?


i just really feel that i should be ranked higher than phil and brandan, since they arent really that difficult to beat, but ill just shutup since they are alot more active than me due to location issues. stockton was never an active region to begin with, anyway.
 

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JR...

why are you arguing about the rankings?
you look like a noob. lol
i personally think (which instantly stips this sentence of it's meaning) that you should be higher than you are or were... but arguing about it does nothing. do you expect them to recall the list and place you on top? just go to tourneys, play consistently and beat them guts. lol
YOU GOT THIS, KID!
 

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JR...

why are you arguing about the rankings?
you look like a noob. lol
i personally think (which instantly stips this sentence of it's meaning) that you should be higher than you are or were... but arguing about it does nothing. do you expect them to recall the list and place you on top? just go to tourneys, play consistently and beat them guts. lol
YOU GOT THIS, KID!
im arguing about my spot in the rankings because i have insomnia, and i really have nothing better to do at this time of the day LOLL.

how does one arguing about their spot in the rankings, make them look like a noob? are "good" players supposed to act like they dont care about the rankings? we all want to have fun, and being ranked is part of that fun. mang! nothings wrong with voicing ur opinions
 

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jr... you're good. quit whining... and go place higher in tourneys...
that is all...

p.s. WHEN ARE YOU COMING TO MODESTO AGAIN?!
we need to record for the... i've said to much...
 

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QUOTE:
Yes flukes do happen especially to Rey, but the best way to get rid of any doubt is by getting 2nd and beating ranked players such as FMF and SS in the same tourney.
what...? did i not beat ranked players after losing to hydrokirby?
Maybe this was interpreted wrong. Rey lost to unranked then proceeded to beat someone who is ranked higher then him therefore removing all doubt that the loss to Kheffin was indeed a fluke. You losing to hydrokirby and then beating phil and brandon isn't quite as powerful of a doubt remover.

Quote:
And if you're going to try and discredit someones chars, you might be inclined to know that Germ's Samus 2-0 Lunin at WCSL.
but flukes happen especially to rey, right?
Yea Rey is known for being beat by players he shouldn't but is losing to Germ as big as losing to Hydro Kirby, not even close in retrospect. Especially since the count on Germ vs Lunin was 2-0 opposed to 2-1.

i just really feel that i should be ranked higher than phil and brandan, since they arent really that difficult to beat, but ill just shutup since they are alot more active than me due to location issues. stockton was never an active region to begin with, anyway.
You seem to be missing the point of these rankings aren't player a vs player b but rather how a player performs on a whole. Rey has a winning record vs Jeff and has often been seen as a counter to Jeff's style(Meaning Jeff is not as difficult to beat), but Jeff has outranked Rey the majority of times due to the fact this isn't based on that kind of system.

I'm glad you feel passionate about getting better and trying to prove yourself, but remember we don't just pull this **** out of our ***** for sheer entertainment. We spend time and delve as deep as we can to give an accurate list. If you have qualms, perhaps instead of *****ing and saying that someone is not difficult to beat, instead divert that energy into proving that you are better than what we have you at.
 

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Double Post FTW

how does one arguing about their spot in the rankings, make them look like a noob? are "good" players supposed to act like they dont care about the rankings? we all want to have fun, and being ranked is part of that fun. mang! nothings wrong with voicing ur opinions
Personally I believe if you need a number to make you feel better about how good you are then you aren't very confident in your skill to begin with. Most people could live without a ranking and knowing exactly where they stand in the scheme of things.
 

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lol i didn't literally mean he looked like a noob. i was just being a... noob.
 

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yeah im trying to prove how good i am to the rest of norcal, it just gets frustrating at the lack of tournaments im able to attend. stockton is hella far off from any tournaments. i always gotta pull **** out of my *** to be able to attend tournaments, such as paying like 50 dollars gas money to go to NCBs, and 30 dollars to go to quakfests.

i always do pretty good, but then i have a fluke set to hydrokirby using my secondary character and then its like... oh hey kfc u suck *moves down 2 spots* its frustrating -_-

i should probably get some sleep lol, its pretty late (or early)

peter come to stockton tourney so u can watch me win lol
 

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We are indeed going to be watchin the stockton tourney, im planning to attend but **** may happen to prevent me.

Also it was a very difficult decision on 7 8 and 9 this list, you were not automatically moved down and infact Phil wasnt completely sold on the idea even when the other 4 were.
 

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i told you guys i was moving up lol

dam doc's a good char

i think KFC>brandon
just imo

doc mains for life brandon <3
 

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hey JR, theres a train (i believe its called the ACE Train) that goes from stockton to san jose i believe. its only like 5-10 dollars max. if you can take a train there, and possibly get picked up by someone, or even take bart from san jose to somewhere else.. you wouldnt have to pay 50 dollars for gas..


wait.. who the HELL do you pay 50 dollars for gas? wtf?
 
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