NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

[Substitution]

will you could be someone like me who actually wants an indie in smash since the beginning like quote or shantae.There are people who wants indies ever during smash 4 speculation just the ballot gave people a real reason for be to more vocal with there support

Eh, I want Pichu in first. Anyone else is simply there for me.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Quick question, what are the total sales for the Bomberman franchise total?

 

[Das Koopa]

They don't have one because they're not an actual unified entity. Not all of them make Metroid or retro style games. Further to the point, how are Metroid or Megaman style games not being represented by, you know, Metroid and Megaman reps.

Just because those games honor Metroid, Megaman, Castlevania, etc. doesn't just mean they are those games. These indie games still have their own identity past their callbacks.

 

[aldelaro5]

I created two more:





I'm getting good.
Hopefully you'll get interested in Frogger soon.

you just gave me the idea so I just though "why I don;t have one?"

So.....here:

 

[PushDustIn]

I've sort of been meaning to ask you... How is the inclusion of Shovel Knight and his lack of relevance in Japan any different from, say, Marth and Roy in Melee or Lucas in Brawl? Because at the time of those games, they were all Japan Only, with no relevance anywhere outside of Japan.
I don't mean this to be accusatory or even a counter argument, as I pretty much agree with your reasoning, I'm just genuinely curious as to what your take on it is.

It's very different. You are asking a Japanese development team who has the language and culture barrier to accurately portray a character. I won't be surprised if Shovel Knight is slightly different than his portrayal in the West if the rumor pans out.

Plus, they usually aren't thinking of American gamers. That's why Omega stages are for Japanese hardcore players and Western Hardcore are confused on how anyone could play Final Destination only for competitive play.

Little Mac also fits the bill as a retro character.
http://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/0...r-is-very-hot-sakurai-famitsu-column-vol-448/

Sakurai loved the arcade game, and that's why half of Little Mac is from the arcade game instead of the more popular (in the West) NES version.

Plus Japanese developer, Japanese game. The center of this game is Japan.

 

[Strofirko]

Fatal frame V begging won't solve nothing in my eyes.

 

[Fenriraga]

Quick question, what are the total sales for the Bomberman franchise total?

Somewhere around 10 million units.
Which I googled.
You could have googled it too, you know. =P

 

[SuperMii3D]

Guys, I played Mario Maker today.

The demo was 10 mins (Then it shuts off) and it only had the materials from Day 2.

And it was so good. This only makes me even more excited for the real deal.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I just check the best selling video game franchises, and shockingly, the Professor Layton franchise has sold more than Bomberman.
Hmm..

you just gave me the idea so I just though "why I don;t have one?"

So.....here:

Shouldn't the eyes be shown?

 

[Spazzy_D]

Quick question, what are the total sales for the Bomberman franchise total?

10 million is the highest verifiable number I can find. Adding some sales numbers together I get 14-15 million total, but 10 is a much more reliable number. Bomberman is very much on the low end of the type of character I see getting in Smash, and definitely not if the franchise doesn't get a revival.

 

[ThePenguinGamer0]

@ BluePikmin11

The Gaming Rainbow is not complete without Rayman!

Give us our purple!

 

[aldelaro5]

I just check the best selling video game franchises, and shockingly, the Professor Layton franchise has sold more than Bomberman.
Hmm..


Shouldn't the eyes be shown?

I tried and its way too hard to figure out the scaling.

I used the artwork from my Op (it's the best I found) and the problem is if I scale it that much uniformly, it just isn't wide enough. like it would look so odd that I had to limit the scaling.

and there;s NO WAY I would scale not uniformly.....it really scraps quality.

Plus. most of his artwork aren't wide.

51 pixels is just not enough.

 

[Fenriraga]

It's very different. You are asking a Japanese development team who has the language and culture barrier to accurately portray a character. I won't be surprised if Shovel Knight is slightly different than his portrayal in the West if the rumor pans out.

Plus, they usually aren't thinking of American gamers. That's why Omega stages are for Japanese hardcore players and Western Hardcore are confused on how anyone could play Final Destination only for competitive play.

Little Mac also fits the bill as a retro character.
http://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/0...r-is-very-hot-sakurai-famitsu-column-vol-448/

Sakurai loved the arcade game, and that's why half of Little Mac is from the arcade game instead of the more popular (in the West) NES version.

Plus Japanese developer, Japanese game. The center of this game is Japan.

Sounds about right to me. Just a point I've seen flying around here and there that I hadn't really seen put to rest yet, appriciate the detailed response.

 

[Substitution]

So in order to think like Sakurai, we gotta think of the Eastern side then...
...
...Is Captain Rainbow still a thing? I hope it's still a thing. Kinda like to see him in Smash. If only so we have the chance of getting the game here. I mean, I'd buy it. Not sure about everyone else, but I'd like it.

 

[SuperMii3D]

I tried and its way too hard to figure out the scaling.

I used the artwork from my Op (it's the best I found) and the problem is if I scale it that much uniformly, it just isn't wide enough. like it would look so odd that I had to limit the scaling.

and there;s NO WAY I would scale not uniformly.....it really scraps quality.

Plus. most of his artwork aren't wide.

51 pixels is just not enough.

Hows this?

 

[aldelaro5]

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Hows this?

non uniform scaling......

like I can;t stand how odds it looks. it just seems much better trade-off to scale uniformly and miss the eyes than jsut scraps the scaling to have everything.

btw, you learn these kind of things when doing a resources pack for minecraft because I did one and it;s much harder than it sounds because of these trade-off..

EDIT: and tbh, between the eyes and the M, I would choose the M.....

 

[PushDustIn]

So in order to think like Sakurai, we gotta think of the Eastern side then...
...
...Is Captain Rainbow still a thing? I hope it's still a thing. Kinda like to see him in Smash. If only so we have the chance of getting the game here. I mean, I'd buy it. Not sure about everyone else, but I'd like it.

Nope Captain Rainbow is a one shot character. Since he didn't get into Brawl he has no chance now IMO. Nick didn't even get a trophy in Smash for Wii U! It was only fat Little Mac if I remember correctly. I'm Playing through the game right now. I can understand why it wasn't localized lol(laughs). It's very 'Japanese' in its humor and story. Would be really difficult to localize.

EDIT: I didn't remember correctly.

 

[BluePikmin11]

@ BluePikmin11

The Gaming Rainbow is not complete without Rayman!

Give us our purple!

I'm tempted to put Bomberman at purple. But maybe Rayman at dark purple I guess since it's actually at the end of the rainbow.

So in order to think like Sakurai, we gotta think of the Eastern side then...
...
...Is Captain Rainbow still a thing? I hope it's still a thing. Kinda like to see him in Smash. If only so we have the chance of getting the game here. I mean, I'd buy it. Not sure about everyone else, but I'd like it.

I got your perfect option here:

 

[Substitution]

Nope Captain Rainbow is a one shot character. Since he didn't get into Brawl he has no chance now IMO. Nick didn't even get a trophy in Smash for Wii U! It was only fat Little Mac if I remember correctly. I'm Playing through the game right now. I can understand why it wasn't localized lol. It's very 'Japanese' in its humor and story. Would be really difficult to localize.

Eh, I mean, to be fair Nintendo has had a history of reviving dead horses. But I guess I'll just be here waiting for that day.

In the meantime I'm going to be see if I can find some old franchise that could work. That's always entertaining to me.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Nope Captain Rainbow is a one shot character. Since he didn't get into Brawl he has no chance now IMO. Nick didn't even get a trophy in Smash for Wii U! It was only fat Little Mac if I remember correctly. I'm Playing through the game right now. I can understand why it wasn't localized lol(laughs). It's very 'Japanese' in its humor and story. Would be really difficult to localize.

Captain Rainbow did get one actually.

 

[SuperMii3D]

non uniform scaling......

like I can;t stand how odds it looks. it just seems much better trade-off to scale uniformly and miss the eyes than jsut scraps the scaling to have everything.

btw, you learn these kind of things when doing a resources pack for minecraft because I did one and it;s much harder than it sounds because of these trade-off..

EDIT: and tbh, between the eyes and the M, I would choose the M.....

Youre killing me smalls. Its time for some complicated math with mediocre results. BBL

EDIT- Its always the eyes, so I chose the eyes

 

[A Distant Demon]

I'm tempted to put Bomberman at purple. But maybe Rayman at dark purple I guess since it's actually at the end of the rainbow.


I got your perfect option here:

Neither has been released in the opposite region.
both are 3rd party
both are popular in their region (Although Jibanyan is popular in both the casual and hardcore audience. . .)

I think we have a winner here.

 

[aldelaro5]

Youre killing me smalls. Its time for some complicated math with mediocre results. BBL

hey, I am picky!

(no seriously, especially for image editing, I am so perfectionist.......)

 

[Chrono.]

Nope Captain Rainbow is a one shot character. Since he didn't get into Brawl he has no chance now IMO. Nick didn't even get a trophy in Smash for Wii U! It was only fat Little Mac if I remember correctly. I'm Playing through the game right now. I can understand why it wasn't localized lol(laughs). It's very 'Japanese' in its humor and story. Would be really difficult to localize.

Actually Captain Rainbow himself is a trophy on the Wii U (the other thing he got was a song)

 

[SuperMii3D]

hey, I am picky!

(no seriously, especially for image editing, I am so perfectionist.......)

Well, whatevs. Im still working on it. Im still doing the eyes instead of the hat because these banners always have the eyes, and I like some organization here.

 

[aldelaro5]

Well, whatevs. Im still working on it. Im still doing the eyes instead of the hat because these banners always have the eyes, and I like some organization here.

I could try eyes only, but then.....idk I'll try it later.

 

[epicmartin7]

So I have this weird theory that I feel has a 50/50 shot of happening. On Monday, maintenance is happening for both versions of Smash 4.

Now what many people don't realize is the final day of PAX is Monday which means it's still going on that day.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, but there is a possibility that Shovel Knight may get revealed on Monday. What do ya' guys think?

 

[Captain Fun]

I don't think we're getting any reveals Monday. A patch itself is unlikely since 3DS and Wii U update at different times, but we probably won't hear of the ballot characters officially until after it's over.

 

[Strofirko]

So I have this weird theory that I feel has a 50/50 shot of happening. On Monday, maintenance is happening for both versions of Smash 4.

Now what many people don't realize is the final day of PAX is Monday which means it's still going on that day.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, but there is a possibility that Shovel Knight may get revealed on Monday. What do ya' guys think?

A perfect straw,but too weak to be grasped.

 

[Chrono.]

So I have this weird theory that I feel has a 50/50 shot of happening. On Monday, maintenance is happening for both versions of Smash 4.

Now what many people don't realize is the final day of PAX is Monday which means it's still going on that day.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, but there is a possibility that Shovel Knight may get revealed on Monday. What do ya' guys think?

I think ya crazy!

Spoiler

In all seriousness I don't see a reveal happening at PAX and I don't think the maintenance on Monday is anything major either, it's just that, maintenance.

 

[GamerGuy09]

Waiting for new Leak info like:

The wait to killing me man, once the Hype train leaves the station, it feels terrible when it halts.

 

[Naoshi]

I think the maintenance is just a maintenance to be quite honest.

 

[Spazzy_D]

I'm tempted to put Bomberman at purple. But maybe Rayman at dark purple I guess since it's actually at the end of the rainbow.


I got your perfect option here:

Bomberman and Rayman are pretty different shades of purple, why not both?

 

[eltacoenojado]

I think the maintenance is just a maintenance to be quite honest.

I agree. I hope I'm wrong, but I agree.

 

[Fenriraga]

I think the maintenance is just a maintenance to be quite honest.

Scheduled maintenance being anything LESS than DLC confirmation? Blasphemy!

 

[epicmartin7]

Man, I just want some Smash news just to confirm/deconfirm the Shovel Knight rumor . I like picture leaks, but rumors drive me crazy .

Spoiler

 

[Solfiner]

I think the maintenance is just a maintenance to be quite honest.

Yeah, I honestly doubt its anything big. Maybe some balance changes in Smash at the most.

 

[Naoshi]

*waits for the day we get certain Smash DLC stages regardless of the music disconfirmation theory*

*becomes a skeleton*

 

[Icedragonadam]

So in my usual surfing the internet. I found about a totally awesome show. It's called Tumblr the animated ser I mean Gen Zed.

And by awesome I mean hysterically awful. The animation designs of this show is just awful.

 

[epicmartin7]

*waits for the day we get certain Smash DLC stages regardless of the music disconfirmation theory*

*becomes a skeleton*

Pretty much how I feel right now.