NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

[Starlight_Lily]

That would be me.
I'll probably continue it tomorrow since I'm feeling lazy today
Also, good luck with Gen 2 mechanics

If you catch a Lovedisc, nickname it with my name please, useless Pokemon is just as useless as I am in a fight

Also it was Gen 1 mechanics that were horribly broken dude, not Gen 2. Although I do miss not having abilities in the game.

Also I rewatched some of the Pokemon Jotho Journey episodes. I was reminded that Ash never went back for his even though he promised he would, why're you such a god damn liar Ash! Can't you yell that your Pidgot is still waiting, and you still haven't come to visit, even though he's only a little while out from Pallet Town...

 

[Kenith]

Like a proper gay man. I'm pretty sure he's just like Tingle and has ''feminine" traits.

Maybe I'm just gay for Ghirahim then. Sometimes it's hard to tell...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Like a proper gay man. I'm pretty sure he's just like Tingle and has ''feminine" traits.

Either way...

I feel like we as human beings in an attempt to unbox ourselves and fight for what we want and believe, forget often that we're complex individuals. We're more than our gender, hair color, eye color, sexuality. Many things make us up.

And sometimes it feels like in this journey for political correctness (which is again absoultely not irrelevant and should be necessary and is something we need to work on) we label ourselves one of the many things that make us who we are.

And take our big picture and just sometimes sort of remove that one puzzle piece and wave it around.

I don't know. Maybe it's me, but I like to look at the bigger picture of what makes Roger Smith, Roger Smith and not just that one, yes, important puzzle piece, I want respected.

http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Eagle

Eagle is a neat guy!

 

[Chrono.]

I thought the Retro Pack would not be available for online pre-order?

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I thought the Retro Pack would not be available for online pre-order?

Me too, I was glad that it was available, but I'm still having trouble purchasing it. :/

 

[Tree Gelbman]

http://streetfighter.wikia.com/wiki/Eagle

Eagle is a neat guy!

I'll be honest my first thought when seeing him was this guy:

''Dukes!"

 

[PushDustIn]

If you guys want another topic to debate we can always discuss Melee. That's always a fun topic, right?! It's the sequel to the Sakurai on 64 article...Sakurai on Melee!

Spoiler

I disagree with Soma's viewpoint that Sakurai was hinting on wavedashing. But it's somewhat ambigious. What do you guys think?

 

[Starlight_Lily]

Soon, we'll be rerating King K. Rool in this thread yet again (deja vu).
http://smashboards.com/threads/rate...-and-baby-mario.398604/page-231#post-19892361
Certainly would like to hear thoughts when the day comes.

You know I'd only really be interested in Baby Mario being in Smash if he is partnered with Baby Luigi, and they had a moveset based around the bro items from Partners in Time.

hmmm? What's that? They'll never be in Smash and probably never have a moveset like that?
Don't care I have a Partners in Time biased since it is my first Mario RPG and the one I grew up with.

 

[IsmaR]

Debbie is the furthest thing from gay. It's only a meme to say he is.

 

[Naoshi]

I thought the Retro Pack would not be available for online pre-order?

That surprised me, yeah. They might be just referencing to the 8/8 pre-orders.

 

[AreJay25]

If you guys want another topic to debate we can always discuss Melee. That's always a fun topic, right?! It's the sequel to the Sakurai on 64 article...Sakurai on Melee!

Spoiler

I disagree with Soma's viewpoint that Sakurai was hinting on wavedashing. But it's somewhat ambigious. What do you guys think?

Well I wasn't expecting this bomb to drop.

*runs to shelter*

 

[Deleted member]

Ghirahim is rather flamboyant, yes, but I'm pretty sure the only thing that gets him hot is pure carnage.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Ghirahim is rather flamboyant, yes, but I'm pretty sure the only thing that gets him hot is pure carnage.

Spoiler

That's what he calls Demise's... you know what.

 

[epicmartin7]

Well I wasn't expecting this bomb to drop.

*runs to shelter*

And...

Spoiler

You're too late.

 

[IsmaR]

On that note, there needs to be a flaming Demise wig for Mii Fighter costumes.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Okay, you are part of an under-represented group. At the same time, though, your case usually isn't so clear. Who's to say any given Link isn't gay? I'm pretty sure his sexual orientation is rarely, if ever, confirmed, but his gender always is. And this is really the case for pretty much any character in a game without obvious romance or romantic implications.

I don't mean to undermine your side of this, I'm a strong LGBT advocate myself, but in regards to Zelda specifically, look at it like this: you can, if you desire, project yourself onto Link better than most girls can. You're male, and Link is clearly male in all Zelda games to this point. Is he gay or straight? Technically, we don't know! So if you were projecting yourself onto Link, as is the intention with the character, that part of you would not be compromised in most cases. As a girl, though, a big part of her identity is compromised right from the beginning. And this is probably more often the case in games in general. The game itself doesn't often let you choose your sexuality, but plenty of them don't do anything to compromise it, either.

And don't think for a moment that I'm against more explicit gay representation in gaming, I'm all for it, just that there's a bit of apples and oranges going on here.

Honestly, gay is such a little part of who I am, that I don't actively try to project it onto any characters. Just like the fact that I'm male is such a little part of who I am.

I mean yeah it'd be neat if there was a gay Link, but at the same time most of the Links have pretty apparent complex "Are they?" relationship with Zelda. Something that onl Skyward Sword has made way way more apparent. So it'd be hard to even project that onto him.

I mean I sympathize with the plight of ''I wish there was a female option in all games." I do, but at the same time. I don't think anyone is helping themselves if the only traits their looking for in any character is the gender or sexuality of said character.

I've seen a lot of my friends miss out on really nice characters in movies, shows, games, etc, because ''Ew, he's a boy!", "That's a girl, dude." ''He's gay, and I'm straight.", etc.

 

[Chrono.]

Y'know it's easy to forget that Capcom had made their own take on "Smash" ages ago.

It wasn't great.

 

[Naoshi]

"THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LIKE THAN CARNAGE..."

 

[KenboCalrissian]

You know, I think you have a point.
Of course, this only applies to the new Zelda. In Skyward Sword his gender was important (he had an obvious relationship with Zelda) and that was the last game.
But regardless, valid observation. I noticed it as well, but didn't mention it...

We've been joking about Link being 'pretty' since at least Twilight Princess - but even before that, he had pink hair in Link to the Past.

You're right, though - SS does kind of throw a wrench into my argument since the "boy likes girl" ship sails strong from beginning to end...

Spoiler: Legit SS spoilers

...but I think it makes up for that by having Zelda go on her own adventure ahead of Link and completely independent of his efforts.

@ KenboCalrissian I think it's too early to really tell. No doubt somewhere in the story Link is going to get his iconic garb. Can't really tell if they are going for an androgynous character or if that's the character that fits in the best with the story, and game design. Plus Skyward Sword featured a very clearly male Link.

Yup - Kenith beat ya to that, the "gender doesn't matter to plot" argument falls short on SS. I think my point about his physical appearance still holds, though that's admittedly rather subjective.

You have to remember even Tetra, one of the most developed female characters in the Zelda series, transformed into Zelda.

Hm... which point is this in reference to? Not sure where I've misstepped regarding Tetra.

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler

That's what he calls Demise's... you know what.

....dammit Swamp.

 

[Das Koopa]

oh lawd Snake looks so bad here

You can tell it's fake though because the guy's using Internet Explorer.

 

[Chrono.]

oh lawd Snake looks so bad here

lmfao you can clearly see a border around Snake this is the worst leak I've seen in a long time and that's saying something.

 

[Naoshi]

thats not even a good CG pose

it looks out of place for so many reasons... and how would ANYONE make a leak of a website everyone visits showing these DLC details because it is obviously not there at all LMAO

 

[Starlight_Lily]

oh lawd Snake looks so bad here

You can tell it's fake though because the guy's using Internet Explorer.

It maybe fake and terrible, but at least let us dream man

You'll comeback to us one day Snake one day, weather its from Konami actually getting their act together or when you get bought from Konami's steaming and vile corpse by someone who will treat you right, we'll all gladly welcome you back to Smash.

 

[Naoshi]

wait why would anyone take a snapshot of their own monitor instead of print screen it

unless this was at work in nintendo, but then why would you leak from a snapshot of the website

that just doesnt make any sense

 

[Das Koopa]

For the record

Snake is extremely polygonal compared to every other model on the page

His model doesn't fit into the picture like the other fighters do

How the flying **** would one guy see this on IE but nobody else

There's no shadow at all in the render

You can see a light gray box in and around Snake's model that's different from the darker gray beside it

Holy fake.

 

[Chrono.]

Maybe its from Ninka_Vanroose

 

[AreJay25]

It totally makes sense that Sakurai would just add DLC to some secret part of the website that no one can access

It also makes sense that he would use one of the worst renders ever

 

[Parallel_Falchion]

I mean I sympathize with the plight of ''I wish there was a female option in all games." I do, but at the same time. I don't think anyone is helping themselves if the only traits their looking for in any character is the gender or sexuality of said character.

I agree with this quote completely. I think people should be open and accepting of all kinds of characters, straight white men included. But that doesn't mean representation inequalities don't exist and/or aren't problematic.

It comes down to more than Link. If you've got a protagonist in a game who you want to represent the player, then with a few exceptions*, the least you can do is offer a gender option. If you're not gonna do that, just pre-define your character.

*These exceptions being cases where the gender really is relevant. In these cases I think it's better if you just use a defined, named character anyway, but I'm just getting this out there for the record.

 

[Das Koopa]

Maybe its from Ninka_Vanroose

that guy was a poser, he said we'd get Mewtwo, Ridley, and Dixie in the starting roster. Mang pls.

Spoiler

don't hurt me vaanrose

 

[vaanrose]

"spirit of the hero" is very ambiguous
it could mean a literal spirit, in which links can communicate with past ones like in avatar (see TP)
and does reinarnation not traditionally involve turning into different things/people? (cat link)
or it could mean it like a meme, a set of ideals possessed by links
the fact that it's worded that way in comparison to "resurrection of the goddess" means that no assumptions should be made either way, unless japanese was less ambiguous

Every time someone says Link is a constantly reincarnated spirit, despite two of the biggest titles in the series, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, explicitly stating otherwise, a fairy loses its wings.

 

[LIQUID12A]

The thread is having a gay old time, I can see.

"THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LIKE THAN CARNAGE..."

I'm sorry, what?

 

[Naoshi]

The thread is having a gay old time, I can see.



I'm sorry, what?

Oh that was it lol

i love his voice

 

[LIQUID12A]

Oh that was it lol

i love his voice

I always get giddy when he blasts a part of Gaur Plain and declares he'll slice you into pieces.

Before getting mauled that is.

 

[Substitution]

Honestly I can give less of a crap about who I'm playing, nor the race/gender/sexuality they have. I just want to play video games and occasionally have fun with them. That's all.

I like Zelda because I swing a sword, kill monsters, and yell at puzzles because I'm stupid. It's been this way since my first game and will continue to be so.

 

[Khoru]

Every time someone says Link is a constantly reincarnated spirit, despite two of the biggest titles in the series, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, explicitly stating otherwise, a fairy loses its wings.

oh, did they actually? oops Embarrass

 

[ThePenguinGamer0]

Way to use a lighter colored background around Snake.

The artwork also looks really ugly, as it's just a model.

Overall, I'll give this one a 3/10.

 

[Deleted member]

If you catch a Lovedisc, nickname it with my name please, useless Pokemon is just as useless as I am in a fight

Also it was Gen 1 mechanics that were horribly broken dude, not Gen 2. Although I do miss not having abilities in the game.

Also I rewatched some of the Pokemon Jotho Journey episodes. I was reminded that Ash never went back for his even though he promised he would, why're you such a god damn liar Ash! Can't you yell that your Pidgot is still waiting, and you still haven't come to visit, even though he's only a little while out from Pallet Town...

Still, Gen 2 is fairly outdated considering Gen 3 was lratically a reboot of the series
And I can't catch a Luvdisc unless I go out of my way to fishbfor one, so I'll probably won't, sorry

The thread is having a gay old time, I can see.



I'm sorry, what?

We're all gay inside

Spoiler

it's incredible how Metal Face's character makes a complete 180 turn after Valak Mountain
Is it too hard to ask for a villain that likes to kill just for the sake of killing without giving him a terrible motive?
I'm looking at you Valter. You and your cursed lance bjll****

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Honestly I can give less of a crap about who I'm playing, nor the race/gender/sexuality they have. I just want to play video games and occasionally have fun with them. That's all.

I like Zelda because I swing a sword, kill monsters, and yell at puzzles because I'm stupid. It's been this way since my first game and will continue to be so.

Agree. I don't care about gender or sexuality of a character. If I enjoy them I enjoy them. I don't exclusively pick either or when it comes to games with characters that have both (Smash, Mario Kart, Tekken, SF, etc)

At the same time Animal Crossing and Splatoon are a perfect example of me gravitating towards one or the other when it comes to ''avatar" characters.

I've exclusively played male Villagers, but only female Inklings.

And with games like Fire Emblem, Knights of the Old Republic, MMOs, Mass Effect? I create save files or characters with both.

 

[Chrono.]

http://gfaqssb.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Super_Smash_Bros._Board_Wiki

What the hell is this?