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AreJay25

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i'm so stupid

i keep forgetting that windows 10 has an actual start menu now

i keep thinking i have to scroll through some stupid BS to get to certain programs

windows 8 has scarred me
 

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Because it happened?
A horrible death in the family, surviving an illness, surviving a mass murdering spree, love for someone, achieving a big personal goal.

Things you keep with you as they greatly affect you.

Being scolded on the internet for continually posting an unfunny meme?

Something you make like Elsa with.
 

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A horrible death in the family, surviving an illness, surviving a mass murdering spree, love for someone, achieving a big personal goal.

Things you keep with you as they greatly affect you.

Being scolded on the internet for continually posting an unfunny meme?

Something you make like Elsa with.
Jeez, I just brought it up again for a joke.
 

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Thankfully you can just delete their phone number. Unlike HGSS where it's forever D:
Honestly I do like the idea of being able to rebattle NPC trainers, its just the way they chose to implement it in Gen 2 and having to use the phone is just straight annoying, especially when I'm grinding and them calling just makes it take even longer.

Also I really sad I missed the splatfast in Europe because of my stupid internet...

At least Team South Pole won, proofing that Penguins truly are the master race
 
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About Source Gaming's new article: I really don't understand why Sakurai regrets Melee so much. Yes, it's enjoyed by hardcore fighting game fans. Yes, the competitive scene is tough to get into. But...so what? It's still a great 4-way party game that anyone can easily pick up and enjoy. The fact that it's good at a competitive level shouldn't diminish that.
 

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Honestly I do like the idea of being able to rebattle NPC trainers, its just the way they chose to implement it in Gen 2 and having to use the phone is just straight annoying, especially when I'm grinding and them calling just makes it take even longer.

Also I really sad I missed the splatfast in Europe because of my stupid internet...

At least Team South Pole won, proofing that Penguins truly are the master race
Yeah, if there is anything I'd change about GSC, is how you rematch trainers. The phone gimmick is neat on paper, but it could've been done better.


VS Seeker was the best way to rebattle trainers and they took that away for god knows why.
 
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Drop it, both of you. Let's move on.
It wasn't even me trying to start something. I was making a suggestion to him that he should move on from it. That's all.

So you have no worries from my side. It's done when it comes to my side.
 
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About Source Gaming's new article: I really don't understand why Sakurai regrets Melee so much. Yes, it's enjoyed by hardcore fighting game fans. Yes, the competitive scene is tough to get into. But...so what? It's still a great 4-way party game that anyone can easily pick up and enjoy. The fact that it's good at a competitive level shouldn't diminish that.
I think (just a theory) that he's afraid of thinning the line between competitive and casual Smash even more. Like okay, obviously an experienced player is more likely to win at a game of Smash, even with things like items and stage hazards. but when it comes to the fundementals of each character's attacks, the line is still much more "even" so to speak. Every character has specials, attacks, Smash Attacks, Shields and Dodging, etc.
Bring in things like Wavedashing and it upsets that. A casual player won't know how the hell to deal with it, so that alone puts them at a severe disadvantage. I think that's what he's afraid of... Thinning that line even more, which frankly, Melee does to an extent.

That isn't to say I AGREE with that mindset at all, but that's my take on it.
 
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I think (just a theory) that he's afraid of thinning the line between competitive and casual Smash even more. Like okay, obviously an experienced player is more likely to win at a game of Smash, even with things like items and stage hazards. but when it comes to the fundementals of each character's attacks, the line is still much more "even" so to speak.
Bring in things like Wavedashing. A casual player won't know how the hell to do it, so that alone puts them at a severe disadvantage. I think that's what he's afraid of... Thinning that line even more, which frankly, Melee does to an extent.

That isn't to say I AGREE with that mind set at all, but that's my take on it.
I think it's not only that, but because he created Melee the way he did, it allowed for this competitive mind set and group of fans to be created that wanted MORE from him. To the point that if you look at Brawl and SSB4 they're both plagued with a mindset of ''Yeah, but Melee..."

And that's a hell of a power over the artistry of a creator. You feel as if you're letting down someone or if your work no matter how good it is? It's never good enough.
 
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Category: Characters With Significant hatedoms.

I've been viewing this site for months and I never get tired of it.
  • He's most likely the reason that the Boxing Ring Lights didn't get in. As such, he has garnered a huge hatebase.

As if we didn't need even more reason to hate Dark Pit's inclusion. Damn Sakurai bias!
 
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Jeez, I just brought it up again for a joke.
You're using a meme incorrectly.

Hand in your dank meme membership card.


(Warning. Theory)
Melee is awesome from the mind of someone coming from something like street fighter. SF is all about playing and improving and competing. But sakurai looks at smash more like mario party. You shouldnt need to spend hours improving to have fun.

Instead of learning how to FADC sakurai would rather play 4 player smash with items.
 

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I'll say this about the Melee: it has one of the most dedicated playerbases in fighting games. It is consistently played even 14 years after its release, and will probably continue to be played for a very long time.

This is thanks to its competitive scene... which has never had any true bearing on casual players. And may I add that some casuals still play Melee.

Sakurai shouldn't regret making something that people still love playing.
 

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Yeah, if there is anything I'd change about GSC, is how you rematch trainers. The phone gimmick is neat on paper, but it could've been done better.


VS Seeker was the best way to rebattle trainers and they took that away for god knows why.
Seriously with some Pokemon games its 2 steps forward 5 steps back, in some of its design choices.

I think it's not only that, but because he created Melee the way he did, it allowed for this competitive mind set and group of fans to be created that wanted MORE from him. To the point that if you look at Brawl and SSB4 they're both plagued with a mindset of ''Yeah, but Melee..."

And that's a hell of a power over the artistry of a creator. You feel as if you're letting down someone or if you're work no matter how good is never good enough.
Pretty much I'd agree with you here. But also I feel honestly Smash Bros was never meant to be a competitive fighting game like Street Fighter.

Also when Sakurai refers to the causal audience of Smash I don't think he's referring to the causal game market, I believe he is referring to general gaming fans, because he said catering to hardcore fans would hurt Smash, I think he was referring hardcore fighting game fans, and since that market is still smaller then the general gaming fanbase, I'd defiantly say that would hurt Smash.
 

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For Melee, Sakurai Didn't really intend for half of the ATs to be left in the game. Rushed programming is the cause of a lot of techs in Melee.

Everyone should read Winning and Losing. It describes Sakurai's views on competitive play perfectly and it's from Smash 64 era.

Basically Sakurai wants to make a game that everyone can play. Usually he simplifies a genre. Kirby - simple platformer. Kirby's Air Ride - simple racer. Smash - simple fighter.

This is represented in the control scheme (press B to special) and the lack of health bars. You could win without dealing the most damage. That's the key part to Smash. It's suppose to be a levelled playing field.

With the ATs in Melee it's not like that. There's a clearer divide on who's better and who's not.
 

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Have you guys talked about this?

I just found it and it looks so fake. I just thought I'd bring it up since everyone wants more leaks and news.

EDIT: There was an extra "I" at the beginning.
 
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I have you guys talked about this?

I just found it and it looks so fake. I just thought I'd bring it up since everyone wants more leaks and news.
Hahahahahahaha.

The costumes don't have animations, and are just still images. So many things wrong with this. 2/10.
 

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For Melee, Sakurai Didn't really intend for half of the ATs to be left in the game. Rushed programming is the cause of a lot of techs in Melee.

Everyone should read Winning and Losing. It describes Sakurai's views on competitive play perfectly and it's from Smash 64 era.

Basically Sakurai wants to make a game that everyone can play. Usually he simplifies a genre. Kirby - simple platformer. Kirby's Air Ride - simple racer. Smash - simple fighter.

This is represented in the control scheme (press B to special) and the lack of health bars. You could win without dealing the most damage. That's the key part to Smash. It's suppose to be a levelled playing field.

With the ATs in Melee it's not like that. There's a clearer divide on who's better and who's not.
My problem with this is that in practically any multiplayer game, some players are just going to be better than others. There's no way around it. You can't expect everyone to have the same level of skill. Even in something like Mario Kart, where items are almost always a factor, there are still people who will learn the ins and outs of the game to get better at it, and they'll likely end up winning the most.
 

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Have you guys talked about this?

I just found it and it looks so fake. I just thought I'd bring it up since everyone wants more leaks and news.

EDIT: There was an extra "I" at the beginning.
Christ that looks like Trash but do expect Mario Bros to come back in some form. Also armored Mewtwo is from Smash 3
 

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That leak could literally not be more pixelated.

Also lol there's no chance of Armored Mewtwo happening ever.
 

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The Yoshi Mii costume is from Mario Tennis Open as well.


This leak gets a 1/10 from me. It's just that bad. There was literally no effort put in here.
 

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My problem with this is that in practically any multiplayer game, some players are just going to be better than others. There's no way around it. You can't expect everyone to have the same level of skill. Even in something like Mario Kart, where items are almost always a factor, there are still people who will learn the ins and outs of the game to get better at it, and they'll likely end up winning the most.
I get that. I'm merely just explaining what I believe the rational behind Smash is. It's suppose to be more "Mario Kart" than "F-Zero". Less pure skill and more fun. Not saying I agree 100% with what Sakurai thinks, but I believe it's important to understand the reasoning behind design choices.
 

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I get that. I'm merely just explaining what I believe the rational behind Smash is. It's suppose to be more "Mario Kart" than "F-Zero". Less pure skill and more fun. Not saying I agree 100% with what Sakurai thinks, but I believe it's important to understand the reasoning behind design choices.
Yeah but I wish Sakurai can hit that sweetspot of between "Mario Kart" & "F-Zero" of all levels and Smash 4 is closer than any game since Melee but yet feels so far due to all the missing AT.

Not complaining since I think Smash doesn't need Wavedashing, ledge canceling and all that stuff except for auto L-canceling.

Even then, I don't really care since Melee is only game that has that level of perfection and its better that way.
 
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