NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

[Khoru]

Fassad amiibo when


Perfect microwave fodder

please don't remind me that the official localization wouldn't/won't use "fassad"
rip

 

[epicmartin7]

These three amiibos should be in the next wave in the Smash Bros. line.

Spoiler

Then, all we need to do is wait for Frieza to eventually come out and we'll be all set.

 

[Deleted member]

oh yeah i'm playing final fantasy iv now
this is pretty much my first exposure to it
i mean i know a basic overview of the series but not much specific

FFIV? But there's only 3 Final Fantasy games on the SNES

 

[Starlight_Lily]

These three amiibos should be in the next wave in the Smash Bros. line.

Spoiler

Then, all we need to do is wait for Vegeta to eventually come out and we'll be all set.

You say that but I actually want a Waluigi amiibo

 

[kylexv]

I just found this interesting Smash theory:

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This theory suggests that the Smash Bros. games are all in the mind of an autistic child.

 

[Kenith]

I just found this interesting Smash theory:

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This theory suggests that the Smash Bros. games are all in the mind of an autistic child.

That video's been around for a while.
I don't really like game theories like this one that over-complicate the games.

 

[Das Koopa]

My favorite part of every patch.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

These three amiibos should be in the next wave in the Smash Bros. line.

Spoiler

Then, all we need to do is wait for Frieza to eventually come out and we'll be all set.

Would probably buy them all.

You say that but I actually want a Waluigi amiibo

The fact we haven't gotten wave two to the Mario Line just baffles me.

 

[Deleted member]

That video's been around for a while.
I don't really like game theories like this one that over-complicate the games.

You should see the Zelda fanbase trying to overcomplicate the simplest timeline possible then

 

[aldelaro5]

That video's been around for a while.
I don't really like game theories like this one that over-complicate the games.

I do like vgl jokes however.

For example, here's some paper mario one

in pm64, Bombette says to have been imprisoned because she exploded on accident. You break out of the cell by asking bombette to actually explode while she was imprisoned for a while since.

Why she didn't exploded before?

TTYD, use ms Mows ability in the Crotez treasure room, she litterally tells you there;s nothing there while she is supposed to be able to detect treasures by smelling and it the the room where it has arguably the msot amount of treasures int he game

Spm, can you try to explain how fleep can go to the bathroom?

SS......everything in the game?

 

[Kenith]

You should see the Zelda fanbase trying to overcomplicate the simplest timeline possible then

As a Zelda fan, I am well aware.
I'm going to be completely honest, despite being a big fan of Zelda, I don't give a flying **** about the overarching story of the games. I just play Zelda for the gameplay, the music, and the characters.

 

[Starlight_Lily]

You should see the Zelda fanbase trying to overcomplicate the simplest timeline possible then

Believe some of the Zelda fan theories can get pretty stupid, like saying Zelda is actually secretly evil or that the Hylian race are genocidal maniacs...

 

[vaanrose]

You should see the Zelda fanbase trying to overcomplicate the simplest timeline possible then

A timeline with copious amounts of time travel and parallel universes is anything but simple.

 

[Solfiner]

I love the Zelda lore, mostly when it's mysterious. That's why Majora's Mask is my favorite in the franchise.

 

[Deleted member]

As a Zelda fan, I am well aware.
I'm going to be completely honest, despite being a big fan of Zelda, I don't give a flying **** about the overarching story of the games. I just play Zelda for the gameplay, the music, and the characters.

Like how I watched Kill la Kill for the plot

Spoiler

I honestly don't know why I watched it tbh

Believe some of the Zelda fan theories can get pretty stupid, like saying Zelda is actually secretly evil or that the Hylian race are genocidal maniacs...

I actually once saw a theory that said Din and Demise were livers and that Sheik is a totally different person from Zelda

A timeline with copious amounts of time travel and parallel universes is anything but simple.

Keyword: possible
When you make a game franchise without caring about a timeline of events and fans start overthinking, the simplest answer is usually what happened with Zelda's timeline
Now to wait for the official Mario timeline

 

[Pokechu]

I could never get into Zelda. I always got lost in the dungeons and had to use IGN, until I finally gave up. They were all so confusing, but I am, too. The only Zelda game I could understand was Hyrule Warriors, and the other ones I have are Link's Awakening, Wind Waker HD, and ALBW.

 

[PushDustIn]

I can t be the only person who agrees with this 100% @Kalimdori great video

Obviously I don't agree with all of @Kalimdori's sentiments.
1. @Aeris translated the patch notes update information. They were featured on reddit and the front page of SmashBoards at least. They weren't hard to find, at least 15,000 people viewed them directly on Source Gaming. They were also featured on Nintendo Everything. I do agree 100% that Nintendo should've included the patch notes update information in English.

2. He calls people who believe that costumes are de-confirmation "stupid" and then later says it's a real possibility in his video. Either way, this isn't a good attitude to have in the community. No one is "stupid". There are only people who have different interpretations of the facts. The only people who are "stupid" are the ones that are blatant making up stuff/ ignoring facts when it's convenient for them.

3. Mentions the Ridley debacle. Which is as bright as day evidence that the community takes anything that's ambiguous and runs in the opposite direction. For crying out loud the screen he showed says 'Other boss characters may appear'. That should've been Ridley's death then and there, but people wanted to hold onto false hope and hype. I know retrospect is 20/20, but common.

4. He says Sakurai hates K. Rool. Yeah, because Sakurai also hates Goku. He hated Dedede until sometime in in 2006 as Dedede wasn't in any Smash games until then. There's a lot of stuff that goes into designing and picking the characters for Smash. It's not as simple as "I hate this character. Time not include him". Frankly, that's a very immature way of looking at it, and I hope the community grows out of it. It's more like "This character doesn't work because XYZ". Why wasn't Llyod featured in the game over Pac-Man? Maybe it's because he had a popular game on the Gamecube and we are now on the Wii U. Why is he a costume now? To appease the fans, obviously.

5. Tourney mode complaining. I get this. There's a lot of features not in it that should be. Also, my personal theory is the whole 3 minute timeline for stocks -- it's for replays. It's an awful game design choice as it doesn't reflect how tourneys are played. But then again Smash isn't a fighter. It's classified as "action-based fighter" (or an "opponent based action game" depending on what translation you prefer)

I do like the actual video. @Kalimdori did a great job selecting footage that matched up with what he was talking about. His speech style is also effective. I do largely agree with his sentiments on the Mii Fighter Costumes, but making them actually play somewhat like their character would require a lot more work. Work that is going to be extremely limited.

Okay, now that I finished "responding" (see Etika, I responded and yet I'm still a news source. You can do both.) I'm going to put up the interview with the Dr. Mario fake leakers up. Give me ~30 minutes as I need coffee.

 

[epicmartin7]

Obviously I don't agree with all of @Kalimdori's sentiments.
1. @Aeris translated the patch notes. They were featured on reddit and the front page of SmashBoards at least. They weren't hard to find, at least 15,000 people viewed them directly on Source Gaming. They were also featured on Nintendo Everything. I do agree 100% that Nintendo should've included the patch notes in English.

2. He calls people who believe that costumes are de-confirmation "stupid" and then later says it's a real possibility in his video. Either way, this isn't a good attitude to have in the community. No one is "stupid". There are only people who have different interpretations of the facts. The only people who are "stupid" are the ones that are blatant making up stuff/ ignoring facts when it's convenient for them.

3. Mentions the Ridley debacle. Which is as bright as day evidence that the community takes anything that's ambiguous and runs in the opposite direction. For crying out loud the screen he showed says 'Other boss characters may appear'. That should've been Ridley's death then and there, but people wanted to hold onto false hope and hype. I know retrospect is 20/20, but common.

4. He says Sakurai hates K. Rool. Yeah, because Sakurai also hates Goku. He hated Dedede until sometime in in 2006 as Dedede wasn't in any Smash games until then. There's a lot of stuff that goes into designing and picking the characters for Smash. It's not as simple as "I hate this character. Time not include him". Frankly, that's a very immature way of looking at it, and I hope the community grows out of it. It's more like "This character doesn't work because XYZ". Why wasn't Llyod featured in the game over Pac-Man? Maybe it's because he had a popular game on the Gamecube and we are now on the Wii U. Why is he a costume now? To appease the fans, obviously.

5. Tourney mode complaining. I get this. There's a lot of features not in it that should be. Also, my personal theory is the whole 3 minute timeline for stocks -- it's for replays. It's an awful game design choice as it doesn't reflect how tourneys are played. But then again Smash isn't a fighter. It's classified as "action-based fighter" (or an "opponent based action game" depending on what translation you prefer)

I do like the actual video. @Kalimdori did a great job selecting footage that matched up with what he was talking about. His speech style is also effective. I do largely agree with his sentiments on the Mii Fighter Costumes, but making them actually play somewhat like their character would require a lot more work. Work that is going to be extremely limited.

Okay, now that I finished "responding" (see Etika, I responded and yet I'm still a news source. You can do both.) I'm going to put up the interview with the Dr. Mario fake leakers up. Give me ~30 minutes as I need coffee.

Wait, Nintendo actually did provide patch notes for all the characters in Japanese? Props to them! If only we could get NOA to do that...

 

[PushDustIn]

Wait, Nintendo actually did provide patch notes for all the characters in Japanese? Props to them! If only we could get NOA to do that...

Sorry, not patch notes but the update information. If we had patch notes in Japanese it would be a lot easier to distribute.

 

[epicmartin7]

Sorry, not patch notes but the update information. If we had patch notes in Japanese it would be a lot easier to distribute.

Back to square one again...

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Obviously I don't agree with all of @Kalimdori's sentiments.
1. @Aeris translated the patch notes update information. They were featured on reddit and the front page of SmashBoards at least. They weren't hard to find, at least 15,000 people viewed them directly on Source Gaming. They were also featured on Nintendo Everything. I do agree 100% that Nintendo should've included the patch notes update information in English.

2. He calls people who believe that costumes are de-confirmation "stupid" and then later says it's a real possibility in his video. Either way, this isn't a good attitude to have in the community. No one is "stupid". There are only people who have different interpretations of the facts. The only people who are "stupid" are the ones that are blatant making up stuff/ ignoring facts when it's convenient for them.

3. Mentions the Ridley debacle. Which is as bright as day evidence that the community takes anything that's ambiguous and runs in the opposite direction. For crying out loud the screen he showed says 'Other boss characters may appear'. That should've been Ridley's death then and there, but people wanted to hold onto false hope and hype. I know retrospect is 20/20, but common.

4. He says Sakurai hates K. Rool. Yeah, because Sakurai also hates Goku. He hated Dedede until sometime in in 2006 as Dedede wasn't in any Smash games until then. There's a lot of stuff that goes into designing and picking the characters for Smash. It's not as simple as "I hate this character. Time not include him". Frankly, that's a very immature way of looking at it, and I hope the community grows out of it. It's more like "This character doesn't work because XYZ". Why wasn't Llyod featured in the game over Pac-Man? Maybe it's because he had a popular game on the Gamecube and we are now on the Wii U. Why is he a costume now? To appease the fans, obviously.

5. Tourney mode complaining. I get this. There's a lot of features not in it that should be. Also, my personal theory is the whole 3 minute timeline for stocks -- it's for replays. It's an awful game design choice as it doesn't reflect how tourneys are played. But then again Smash isn't a fighter. It's classified as "action-based fighter" (or an "opponent based action game" depending on what translation you prefer)

I do like the actual video. @Kalimdori did a great job selecting footage that matched up with what he was talking about. His speech style is also effective. I do largely agree with his sentiments on the Mii Fighter Costumes, but making them actually play somewhat like their character would require a lot more work. Work that is going to be extremely limited.

Okay, now that I finished "responding" (see Etika, I responded and yet I'm still a news source. You can do both.) I'm going to put up the interview with the Dr. Mario fake leakers up. Give me ~30 minutes as I need coffee.

Rekt? Rekt.

Also btw push, is this a typo or not?
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3fiw7b/the_truth_and_misconceptions_about_clones/ctpady7

 

[PushDustIn]

Rekt? Rekt.

Also btw push, is this a typo or not?
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/3fiw7b/the_truth_and_misconceptions_about_clones/ctpady7

Fixed. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. It's getting more and more difficult to keep track of everything's that said about SG.

 

[vaanrose]

Keyword: possible
When you make a game franchise without caring about a timeline of events and fans start overthinking, the simplest answer is usually what happened with Zelda's timeline
Now to wait for the official Mario timeline

The official Zelda timeline introduced a third split for no reason whatsoever, and complicated things more than any fan did. And Anouma, the series director since 1999, has gone on record saying he does care about the timeline; it's Miyamoto that always comes in and screws things up. If the timeline doesn't make complete sense it's because of the tug of war between two very different design approaches, not because the creators don't care about the timeline at all.

 

[Mikegamer0608]

These three amiibos should be in the next wave in the Smash Bros. line.

Spoiler

Then, all we need to do is wait for Frieza to eventually come out and we'll be all set.

I would be tempted to get all 3.

 

[Chrono.]

Imagine a world where SEGA just kept making Genesis addons.

Sauce

 

[Kenith]

This cosplay is from a convention last month iirc.

This is still the coolest cosplay in the history of ever omfg.
I wish Chrom always looked like this. I don't want to have to promote him to see this rad armor.

 

[LucarioDude]

Pokemon nendoroids are the cutest thing ever. Here's a picture of Cynthia and Red hanging about. Garchomp is confused.

Spoiler

 

[DMurr]

Honest question, do people actually want Goku or Shrek in Smash Bros.? Why?

I have a hard time understanding why people even want characters from non-Nintendo games that don't meet the Sakurai standard. It's a Nintendo crossover game. Sure, there are some wonderful games out there not made by them, but that's not really relevant to what Smash is.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

These three amiibos should be in the next wave in the Smash Bros. line.

Spoiler

Then, all we need to do is wait for Frieza to eventually come out and we'll be all set.

i would totally buy a cell amiibo easily best DBZ villian

Honest question, do people actually want Goku or Shrek in Smash Bros.? Why?

I have a hard time understanding why people even want characters from non-Nintendo games that don't meet the Sakurai standard. It's a Nintendo crossover game. Sure, there are some wonderful games out there not made by them, but that's not really relevant to what Smash is.

Yes there are people who really want goku in smash.Natewantstobattle wanted him in for awhile and a couple DBZ tubers tried to get people to vote goku in the smash ballot.They want goku for the same reason we want a character he's character from there past who they want in there favorite fighting game they just dont understand why it hasn't/wont happened.Or your a bunch of kids who vote for whatever you like(lol vote for darth vader in smash).And yeah shrek is just a meme i never seen anyone really want him

 

[Mikegamer0608]

Honest question, do people actually want Goku or Shrek in Smash Bros.? Why?

I have a hard time understanding why people even want characters from non-Nintendo games that don't meet the Sakurai standard. It's a Nintendo crossover game. Sure, there are some wonderful games out there not made by them, but that's not really relevant to what Smash is.

No, but I would at least take a mii costume of Goku.

Edit: And I say this because we got non-video game relevant costumes anyways.

 

[Kenith]

Does Goku actually violate a criteria set by Sakurai though?

 

[Chrono.]

Honest question, do people actually want Goku or Shrek in Smash Bros.? Why?

I have a hard time understanding why people even want characters from non-Nintendo games that don't meet the Sakurai standard. It's a Nintendo crossover game. Sure, there are some wonderful games out there not made by them, but that's not really relevant to what Smash is.

I can safely say most, if not all, of Shrek's votes are ~~ironic~~ ones.

Goku, well... he's Goku. Most of the people who legit want him in are the more casual fanbase.

 

[Deleted member]

Does Goku actually violate a criteria set by Sakurai though?

In order to be eligible, third party characters must fill both of the following criteria:

• Character must have appeared on a Nintendo platform at least once. (No Sackboy, Kratos, Master Chief, etc.)
• Character must have originated from a video game. (No Shrek, Mickey Mouse (though I'd honestly prefer him as a Disney rep over Sora), Goku, etc.)

Goku violates the latter.

 

[cmbsfm]

Honest question, do people actually want Goku or Shrek in Smash Bros.? Why?

I have a hard time understanding why people even want characters from non-Nintendo games that don't meet the Sakurai standard. It's a Nintendo crossover game. Sure, there are some wonderful games out there not made by them, but that's not really relevant to what Smash is.

TBH I kinda want Goku.

I feel like he's pretty iconic enough to be a decent third party addition and he's got good moveset potential. Granted, he's not a video game character but he's got tons of games on various platforms.

It's probably never going to happen, but I'd be pretty hyped if it did.

Does Goku actually violate a criteria set by Sakurai though?

He's not primarily a video game character.

 

[Kenith]

Can I get a source on that?
I mean, I agree, as much I like Goku he's not a great fit, but I want to know exactly where Sakurai said that third-parties had to originate from a game.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

Honest question, do people actually want Goku or Shrek in Smash Bros.? Why?

I have a hard time understanding why people even want characters from non-Nintendo games that don't meet the Sakurai standard. It's a Nintendo crossover game. Sure, there are some wonderful games out there not made by them, but that's not really relevant to what Smash is.

#Justice4Goku

Our lord and savoir

 

[Naoshi]

Can I get a source on that?
I mean, I agree, as much I like Goku he's not a great fit, but I want to know exactly where Sakurai said that third-parties had to originate from a game.

I recall this being said during the Brawl pre-launch days. I forgot where though, several sites has likely reported on that though. He recently (as in Smash 4 pre-hype) said it again that anime/manga characters won't get in.

And given his reaction to Spongebob and Goku being requested to Smash in a recent interview (he called those requests insane or something). I think his mindset is very much cemented.


(I am a huge DBZ fan too. I need to get back to rewatching the series lol)

 

[cmbsfm]

It's impossible but I'd love it to happen.
If he got in the next game, he could be the one to have codecs. He could talk to king kai about the different fighters and stuff.

 

[Fenriraga]

Dammit Etika, stop attacking me with your logic and plainly obvious reasoning and GIMME MY SMASH GENIE YOU HANDSOME RAMSY PROTEGE

 

[Mikegamer0608]

Dammit Etika, stop attacking me with your logic and plainly obvious reasoning and GIMME MY SMASH GENIE YOU HANDSOME RAMSY PROTEGE