NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

[TheAnvil]

Oh piss off with that crap. Only 2 characters even fit that ****ing role and one's gimmick is moreso Magic than sword based.

You sound like a usual idiot from /v/ who act like any humanoid characters are anime. Does have a sword, does , does have one?

don't even have one. That argument is crap, anyone who tries to say that is stupid and you should slap yourself for saying something this stupid.

No need to get nasty. It's a freaking joke.

 

[Chrono.]

Did the source seriously say Wolf was a costume. Geez that's going to be truly shocking.

No it could be someone pretending to be the OP.

 

[Kenith]

Honestly considering the general quality of newcomers so far (I don't mean quality in the sense of playstyle) my guess would be another sword user from a niche RPG series.

There aren't any of those left though...

 

[Luigi The President]

Oh piss off with that crap. Only 2 characters even fit that ****ing role and one's gimmick is moreso Magic than sword based.

You sound like a usual idiot from /v/ who act like any humanoid characters are anime. Does have a sword, does , does have one?

don't even have one. That argument is crap, anyone who tries to say that is stupid and you should slap yourself for saying something this stupid.

Chill

 

[Burb]

Here we have people saying about how King K. Rool has no more chances due to the costume. When the fake Meta Knight picture came up(before Meta Knight was actually confirmed) there were people who were going that Meta Knight was cut and so and so. Now, it's up to you whether you want to call them idiots or what not then, but it's still a case of people overreacting.

Looking at the current DLC costumes, a good majority of them are characters who people practically expected not to be DLC playable:

Mega Man X(in Mega Man's Final Smash)
Dunban(in Shulk's Final Smash)
Proto Man
Isabelle(Assist Trophy)
Mega Man.EXE(in Mega Man's Final Smash)
Zero
Akira
Jacky
Heihachi
K.K. Slider(appears in the Smashville Stage)
Chrom(in Robin's Final Smash)

Now let's look at the ones people want to be playable:
Inkling
King K. Rool

Only 2. And one of them is one that people have thought the possibility of being Post-Ballot DLC(including you, back in the Leaks Group). And yet already we are saying that because those 2 are DLC costumes that it means they are never going to be playable, when all the other costumes are characters people practically expected not to be DLC.
This shows how much we know very little of how much the costumes mean for the character. As You said, we don't know if such costumes affect chances and what not, but here we are practically going over the top about how these costumes mean they can't be playable, despite the fact that the developers have teased us with and made fun of similar issues, both with the Meta Knight costume and Meta Knight and with Koopaling Roy and Fire Emblem Roy. And we ALL know how much the Roy argument was used back then and how much it got invalidated with FE Roy's appearance.

Basically, it's too early to tell if the costumes mean anything. So let's just wait until after the Ballot is over and the Ballot DLC starts coming up.

Errr.....what difference does it make if people expected them or not? People expected K. Rool, Mewtwo, and Ridley to be playable in the base game, and that Dark Pit would be a costume or a stage boss. Expectations =/= Reality.

And I don't see what the Roy situation has to do with anything. It has absolutely nothing to do with Mii Fighter costumes.

Honestly considering the general quality of newcomers so far (I don't mean quality in the sense of playstyle) my guess would be another sword user from a niche RPG series.

 

[Substitution]

There aren't any of those left though...

Which means we're going to have to dig deeper.

 

[TheAnvil]

And with nasty comments I think I've had enough of this site for one day.

 

[Champ Gold]

No need to get nasty. It's a freaking joke.

Chill

Sorry but when you see this comment and argument everytime, I just lose my mind over a stupid argument like this. You know how I feel about stupidity in the world. It's just how I am, no hard feelings.

Not entirely true.
I have a new found love for Little Mac, Boxing Ring, no grabs, only fight in the ring, if you hit the outside of the ring, Side B off the stage. I've gotten good with the KO Punch

Join us in the Mac social, we can teach you more about the punch if you want to

 

[DMurr]

Yeah, like @FinalStarmen I'm kinda getting Ridley and Pyrospere flashbacks based on some of the posts I've read....

Whatever happens, happens I guess.... If K. Rool makes it in after all, great! If not, oh well..... He's not my most wanted character but I'd certainly be delighted to see him in as a full fledged playable character.

I just hope this won't get dragged on for another year again.....

The funny thing is, Ridley was clearly confirmed to have a non-playable role as a boss in that video.

Sakurai has shown multiple times, I don't care what character it is, that Mii costumes can overlap with the real thing. He only seems to care if the real thing overlaps with itself, a la Link/Toon Link on Spirit Tracks, and Dedede on Dreamland 64.

I don't think there's compelling evidence to make a statement on either side of the fence for this. King K. Rool is a popular character, therefore he got a Mii costume with the third set of them. That's all it is so far, and we'll just have to wait it out. It's not over 'til it's over, guys.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

funny only 3 character (4 if you count dark pits bow blades as swords) were sword users and only 1 (shulk) was from a niche rpg

Exactly. Fire Emblem is the opposite of niche.

Now, Shining Force... and Golden Sun kind of seems close. Tales of is arguably niche.

 

[Luigi The President]

Sorry but when you see this comment and argument everytime, I just lose my mind over a stupid argument like this. You know how I feel about stupidity in the world. It's just how I am, no hard feelings.


Join us in the Mac social, we can teach you more about the punch if you want to

Well you just mad Anvil log off, so yeah, obviously he's got some hard feelings. Good job.

I keep my cool and don't go full slam dunk on people who constantly refute Paper Mario. Obviously, you don't with your characters.

 

[Chrono.]

Niche, not Niece. I'm trying to imagine what a Niece rpg is like...

Bravely Default is Final Fantasy's niece.

 

[Substitution]

Niche, not Niece. I'm trying to imagine what a Niece rpg is like...

It's an RPG where every character is the niece of the player. So when you die, you play the niece of that character.

 

[Khoru]

making an inflammatory ~joke~ doesn't relieve responsibility...?

It's an RPG where every character is the niece of the player. So when you die, you play the niece of that character.

oh, so rogue legacy

 

[Luigi The President]

making an inflammatory ~joke~ doesn't relieve responsibility...?

oh, so rogue legacy

Okay, but if someone calmly responded to Anvil, they would've been given a just as calm response on how it was a joke.

 

[epicmartin7]

This thread be like...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Niche, not Niece. I'm trying to imagine what a Niece rpg is like...

You play as the niece of some rich person who's summoning the devil, you were used as a test subject for the dark powers, you need to stop him summoning the devil.
I wish I was competent eith RPG Maker. I also wish I had RPG Maker

Sorry but when you see this comment and argument everytime, I just lose my mind over a stupid argument like this. You know how I feel about stupidity in the world. It's just how I am, no hard feelings.


Join us in the Mac social, we can teach you more about the punch if you want to

I might want to do that some time...Who knows?

 

[egaddmario]

So, i'm watching the Gamexplain video talking about the Dr. Mario stage and they brought up a SUPER interesting point- the music selection. Dr. Mario music is on another stage (i believe Flat Zone X) and, if this leak is real, we still got a stage based on it with different Dr. Mario music. That old music wasn't moved. Meaning it's hypothetically possible to have a Rhythm Heaven stage with music even though it's music is on a different stage.

 

[Substitution]

oh, so rogue legacy

As a concept. Yes.

 

[Champ Gold]

Well you just mad Anvil log off, so yeah, obviously he's got some hard feelings. Good job.

I keep my cool and don't go full slam dunk on people who constantly refute Paper Mario. Obviously, you don't with your characters.

I wasn't trying to be an mean spirited at and I'm not this harsh but when you see this argument over, and over, and over and over and regurgitated to the point of no return.

I dint even try to hurt Anvil's feelings and it wasn't even personal.
Look if I hurt anyone's feelings, I feel very regretful and sorry. I'm very sorry and I hope @ TheAnvil to forgive me.

 

[Curious Villager]

The funny thing is, Ridley was clearly confirmed to have a non-playable role as a boss in that video.

Sakurai has shown multiple times, I don't care what character it is, that Mii costumes can overlap with the real thing. He only seems to care if the real thing overlaps with itself, a la Link/Toon Link on Spirit Tracks, and Dedede on Dreamland 64.

I don't think there's compelling evidence to make a statement on either side of the fence for this. King K. Rool is a popular character, therefore he got a Mii costume with the third set of them. That's all it is so far.

Sakurai seems to be pretty inconsistent with the whole "character meets themselves" thing. In some cases he leaves them be. and in others he feels its important to remove them .

(You can talk about the whole Cranky and Donkey Kong thing but you can more or less make the same case with the Link's. Not to mention Duck Hunt's trailer)

 

[PushDustIn]

Remember guys, no personal attacks.

I know feelings are high as many see the costumes as confirmation that their character is deconfirmed. If you are that upset, I'd suggest taking a breather and come back in a day when you have your feelings under control.

If you disagree with someone you can refute their logic but you cannot attack them directly.

 

[egaddmario]

Sakurai seems to be pretty inconsistent with the whole "character meets themselves" thing. In some cases he leaves them be. and in others he feels its important to remove them .

(You can talk about the whole Cranky and Donkey Kong thing but you can more or less make the same case with the Link's. Not to mention Duck Hunt's trailer)

All of the former appear as 8-bit. Dedede disappearing is odd, but Link is understandable since it's an actual model.

 

[Scamper52596]

First day on the job, and PushDustin already has his workload cut out for him...

 

[Burb]

Sakurai has shown multiple times, I don't care what character it is, that Mii costumes can overlap with the real thing. He only seems to care if the real thing overlaps with itself, a la Link/Toon Link on Spirit Tracks, and Dedede on Dreamland 64.

I don't think there's compelling evidence to make a statement on either side of the fence for this. King K. Rool is a popular character, therefore he got a Mii costume with the third set of them. That's all it is so far, and we'll just have to wait it out. It's not over 'til it's over, guys.

The only full Mii Fighter costume based on a playable character so far is Link.

They went out of their way to use a different Link design than the one in-game. The Mii suit is Skyward Sword Link, the fighter is Twilight Princess Link.

 

[DMurr]

Sakurai seems to be pretty inconsistent with the whole "character meets themselves" thing. In some cases he leaves them be. and in others he feels its important to remove them .

(You can talk about the whole Cranky and Donkey Kong thing but you can more or less make the same case with the Link's. Not to mention Duck Hunt's trailer)

The Dr. Mario stage isn't confirmed yet, and I'm not 100% convinced.

Duck Hunt is ...yeah, that's a blatant counter to my point. I don't really know what he was thinking. You could argue DK is fine because he's technically a different DK. With Link, Sakurai views them are being a representation of all of them.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

First day on the job, and PushDustin already has his workload cut out for him...

Sakurai heard.

He knew.

''RELEASE THE K. ROOL!"

 

[Champ Gold]

You play as the niece of some rich person who's summoning the devil, you were used as a test subject for the dark powers, you need to stop him summoning the devil.
I wish I was competent eith RPG Maker. I also wish I had RPG Maker

I might want to do that some time...Who knows?

I had RPG maker once and had a unique RPG based on a modern world. Don't have it anymore since my computer died

 

[PushDustIn]

@ DMurr
With DK and Duck Hunt they also act as stage hazards themselves. Others aren't necessary for the stage.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I had RPG maker once and had a unique RPG based on a modern world. Don't have it anymore since my computer died

Ooh, I feel that pain. Isn't RPG Maker on steam? You could get it again

 

[Curious Villager]

All of the former appear as 8-bit. Dedede disappearing is odd, but Link is understandable since it's an actual model.

I think it has probably more to do that they kinda affect the stage in someway whereas Dream Land Dedede and Engineer Link don't. (Although we don't know much about that in regards to Dr.Mario but still....)

 

[Substitution]

Sakurai seems to be pretty inconsistent with the whole "character meets themselves" thing. In some cases he leaves them be. and in others he feels its important to remove them .

(You can talk about the whole Cranky and Donkey Kong thing but you can more or less make the same case with the Link's. Not to mention Duck Hunt's trailer)

To be fair with the likes of Duck Hunt and 75m. It wouldn't have made sense otherwise. Who could you get to replace the two?
Edit: The same goes with Dr. Mario. I mean, it's called "Dr. Mario" for a reason.

 

[Dravidian]

So....people are still talking about K.Rool?
They haven't gotten to the "agree to disagree" point?
[sigh]
guess I'll make popcorn.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I just thought of something when looking at the Dr. Mario leak; the picture with Link and Mario could be the Omega Form

 

[Schnee117]

Ooh, I feel that pain. Isn't RPG Maker on steam? You could get it again

It's on Steam but it's something where you're better off waiting for a Summer/Winter sale.

 

[Burb]

So....people are still talking about K.Rool?
They haven't gotten to the "agree to disagree" point?
[sigh]
guess I'll make popcorn.

I don't really see an issue. It's a pretty major piece of news. It's like....."Hey, the community's undisputed most-wanted newcomer might've been disconfirmed!".

And the debating going on has been quite civil. Nowhere near as heated as it was yesterday.

 

[epicmartin7]

You know what kind of upsets me about the Dr. Mario stage? The fact that they couldn't add this remix :

I know it's already occupied by Flat Zone X, but they could have just replaced that song with something else. This song would fit so well with the Dr. Mario stage! I'm really hoping the medleys live up to the standard that the Melee remix brought.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

You know what kind of upsets me about the Dr. Mario stage? The fact that they couldn't add this remix :

I know it's already occupied by Flat Zone X, but they could have just replaced that song with something else. This song would fit so well with the Dr. Mario stage! Lets hope the medleys are better than the Melee remix.

You forgot the Chill remixes

 

[Champ Gold]

Ooh, I feel that pain. Isn't RPG Maker on steam? You could get it again

It's on Steam but it's something where you're better off waiting for a Summer/Winter sale.

I ain't worried about it since I don't have a computer or laptop since 2013 and the last time I used RPG maker was 2011

You know what kind of upsets me about the Dr. Mario stage? The fact that they couldn't add this remix :

I know it's already occupied by Flat Zone X, but they could have just replaced that song with something else. This song would fit so well with the Dr. Mario stage! I'm really hoping the medleys live up to the standard that the Melee remix brought.

It kinda confuses me as well thinking what if the the stage is on 3DS as well and that song is on Pico Chat.

I think the song might get replaced on Flat Zone X.

 

[Substitution]

Looking at the Dr. Mario stage (since admittedly I haven't seen it 'till now), I don't mind it. Certainly looks more legit than the Great Bay.
Though what I'm curious with is if we'll find any info in the update's data. I doubt it, but it'd be neat.