NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

[Chrono.]

No joke, I'd sooner expect Mario's **** to be playable than Geno

You mean Peach?

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......:I

 

[chuckthesmashlover]

The bottom row is alt costumes.

 

[Substitution]

You know, it's depressing watching these speedrunners when they say they're not doing well in a run, when they can play the game far better than I ever could. Not sure what that says about my gaming skill.

 

[Dravidian]

No joke, I'd sooner expect Mario's **** to be playable than Geno

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As if it isn't playable already

 

[Chandeelure]

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[BluePikmin11]

Alright what are the good choices and bad choices on the roster in your opinion?

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The render looks pretty terrible and unfaithful, that's not how I would imagine it.

 

[Kenith]

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Looks like a drawing with a lot of airbrush shading.

 

[Chrono.]

The bottom row is alt costumes.

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Can't say I agree with Ken being an alt, especially when his entire schtick in SF is that he actually plays differently from Ryu lol

 

[Naoshi]

Alright what are the good choices and bad choices on the roster in your opinion?


The render looks pretty terrible and unfaithful, that's not how I would imagine it.

TBH? The majority of them, or maybe a good half are kind of eh choices. I feel the roster also favors too much quantity over quality. I can't really take them seriously because it is completely unrealistic (not just on some of the choices, but the gigantic size of the roster). It really does not feel like a proper Smash Bros roster.

I think fan rosters are more interesting when they are carefully chosen and doesn't excessively pander to fans.

Can't say I agree with Ken being an alt, especially when his entire schtick in SF is that he actually plays differently from Ryu lol

I'm also a bit iffy on Ms. Pac-Man and Raichu. Raichu cannot work as a Pikachu alt because his body shape and size is different. Ms. Pac-Man could work, but then it would overlook the fact she's suppose to be a fast character, as oppose to Pac-Man who is slower in his own games. (And Pac-Man is slow and heavy in SSB4).

 

[CroonerMike]

Bandanna dee will never be in smash lol.

 

[BluePikmin11]

TBH? The majority of them, or maybe a good half are kind of eh choices. I feel the roster also favors too much quantity over quality. I can't really take them seriously because it is completely unrealistic (not just on some of the choices, but the gigantic size of the roster). It really does not feel like a proper Smash Bros roster.

I think fan rosters are more interesting when they are carefully chosen and doesn't excessively pander to fans.


I'm also a bit iffy on Ms. Pac-Man and Raichu. Raichu cannot work as a Pikachu alt because his body shape and size is different. Ms. Pac-Man could work, but then it would overlook the fact she's suppose to be a fast character, as oppose to Pac-Man who is slower in his own games. (And Pac-Man is slow and heavy in SSB4).

Just be on the assumption that it actually happened, I'm curious of the opinions on several characters.

Bandanna dee will never be in smash lol.

Chandelure is going to hunt you down.

 

[chuckthesmashlover]

Can't say I agree with Ken being an alt, especially when his entire schtick in SF is that he actually plays differently from Ryu lol

Ken started as a clone of Ryu.

 

[Starlight_Lily]

So? Did I nail it? How would you react to a roster like this?

First: Fail for no Pokemon Trainer. And lack of Absol I am disappoint, my biased does not like it
Second: Shadow makes this to edgy
And ho the hell is that next to Mr Game and Watch
Plus 10 for Savvy Styist
But I'm going to have to Minus 10 because you didn't use Nintendo's Goku so you troll the trolls

I still want my Mario-themed American football game, it's the only sport Mario HASN'T done and would sell like hot cakes because we Americans love us some handegg.

Plus it would be hilarious seeing throwing touchdown passes like he's Tom Brady

Mario already has 2 football games though

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All joking aside, you will probably never see a american football game because it is something only the USA plays and here it is popular enough to sell, and Nintendo being a Japanese company probably doesn't care for the sport just like the rest of the world

 

[Naoshi]

Just be on the assumption that it actually happened, I'm curious of the opinions on several characters.


Chandelure is going to hunt you down.

I would probably feel overwhelmed by the large roster. Can't imagine the metagame keeping up with these, and there's also balance issues that would probably be a nightmare for the developers.

I'd also imagine getting trophies for each character being a nightmare. And then there's All-Stars Mode. But as far as those modes goes, I guess a formula shake up on single player could remedy the problems.

At the same time, more choices is a good thing generally, but there's still a lot of compromising to do so.

 

[Chandeelure]

Bandanna dee will never be in smash lol.

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[Cutie Gwen]

Bandanna dee will never be in smash lol.

BDee has a large stick to impress the ladies, What about you?

 

[Khoru]

there are like four rows of third parties there, so many of which aren't iconic in any way or haven't even been on a nintendo console

 

[Soul.]

Raichu would work if they made it play similarly to 64 Pikachu in a way. Not as insane as 64 Pikachu, but something that reminds players of that.
I've been honestly thinking that for a long time now.

 

[egaddmario]

So, do we think we're getting a direct soon because of the Splatoon update coming on the 6th or no?

 

[BluePikmin11]

there are like four rows of third parties there, so many of which aren't iconic in any way or haven't even been on a nintendo console

I know, I was intentionally attempting to try icons outside of Nintendo too, just curious of the opinions.

 

[Naoshi]

there are like four rows of third parties there, so many of which aren't iconic in any way or haven't even been on a nintendo console

There's also that, which kind of takes away the theme Smash Bros has, especially on the latter. Angry Birds would be a massive headscratcher lol

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Raichu would work if they made it play similarly to 64 Pikachu in a way. Not as insane as 64 Pikachu, but something that reminds players of that.
I've been honestly thinking that for a long time now.

That's reminding me of the fact there was a 'Melee Fox for DLC' thread.

 

[Geno Boost]

Bandanna dee will never be in smash lol.

watch out!!! take a shield with you to protect you! i did say the same thing in the past to him

 

[Cutie Gwen]

watch out!!! take a shield with you to protect you! i did say the same thing in the past to him

If you're going to give someone a shield at least reference Zelda 1 you pleb

 

[Icedragonadam]

So, do we think we're getting a direct soon because of the Splatoon update coming on the 6th or no?

Watch it be on the 3rd.

 

[aldelaro5]

You know, it's depressing watching these speedrunners when they say they're not doing well in a run, when they can play the game far better than I ever could. Not sure what that says about my gaming skill.

.....ahhh, you really need to try speedrunning to understand this weird thing.

I tried, you have to react like this. Speedrunners are SO MUCH willing to progress that ANYTHING hindering that is really REALLY annoying.

i tried to speedrun the minish cap and I fel EXACTLY like that. It could just be me rolling too far and loosing a fraction of a second, but because I lost time, it's really frustrating.

Like speedrun is a whole different philosophy and it;s nice for that

 

[Soul.]

That's reminding me of the fact there was a 'Melee Fox for DLC' thread.

No one is safe from 20XX lol

 

[BluePikmin11]

If I were to remove the Microsoft, Sony, and Apple based characters, would you guys give your in depth opinion?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

If I were to remove the Microsoft, Sony, and Apple based characters, would you guys give your in depth opinion?

If I had a clear list of names I'd do that even without those characters

 

[Kenith]

I'd never want Smash to have 120+ characters, and considering how much thought goes into character in Smash, that isn't even remotely feasible.
The only other game I can think has close to that many characters is Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3, with I believe 161.
Except there's dozens of clones and it's extremely unbalanced.

 

[Curious Villager]

I can imagine getting pretty annoyed at goofing up at some point during a speedrun. Especially if it's a fairly long game and you're trying to beat a world record....

 

[BluePikmin11]

I'd never want Smash to have 120+ characters, and considering how much thought goes into character in Smash, that isn't even remotely feasible.
The only other game I can think has close to that many characters is Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3, with I believe 161.
Except there's dozens of clones and it's extremely unbalanced.

Go on the assumption that the game is extremely balanced then. I know that it's impossible, but I still want opinions in specifics. :9

 

[Chrono.]

Ken started as a clone of Ryu.

Yeah, and he's been straying off that role as early as SF2.

Ryu's moveset isn't even from SF1, it takes from every single main title, including things Ken has never done before like the Donkey Kick, a lot of his normals, both his ultras, etc.

 

[Khoru]

i can give specifics in an hour or two, blue
i'm typing on a phone right now

 

[Kenith]

Go on the assumption that the game is extremely balanced then. I know that it's impossible, but I still want opinions in specifics. :9

I already told you, the actual character representation in the Nintendo department kills it for me.
You have 100+ characters you the Zelda roster contains only Link, Zelda, and Ganon variations.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I already told you, the actual character representation in the Nintendo department kills it for me.
You have 100+ characters you the Zelda roster contains only Link, Zelda, and Ganon variations.

I avoided some Nintendo one-shot characters from already established franchises in the roster when I was making it.

 

[Khoru]

I avoided some Nintendo one-shot characters in the roster when I was making it.

even so, tingle and vaati aren't one-shots
nor's dark samus or waluigi

 

[Das Koopa]

 

[Naoshi]

Nintendo doesn't really count the side/spinoff games to be fair. If Vaati was more prominent in the mainline console games, his chances would be higher.

I like Vaati though, so it's a shame there isn't even a trophy of him

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Go on the assumption that the game is extremely balanced then. I know that it's impossible, but I still want opinions in specifics. :9

If it's all balanced...It'd be confusing regardless, fighting against a character would easily result in "What could this character do again?" By having over 100 characters with unique playstyles it gets confusing, especially for newbies who want to get more competitive and pick a main, you have to pick one out of over 100 to see who you like best. It's a cluster****