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NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

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Doesn't Pokémon get Saffron City Requests with 64 DLC being a thing. And I surely can't be the only who would love Poke Floats two. With all the new possibilities.
Magicant would be awesome on Wii U because it almost works too Well. And more Earthbound Music Yay :D
A Bowsers Castle stage is long overdue.
I also see requests for the F Zero Stage to be Put on Wii U.
And for all that's good in the World give R.O.B a home stage.
He's the only one in the entire cast to not get one.:rob::4rob:
And a Dr.Mario Stage would be wonderful. Seeing as (if I recall) it was planned.
 

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Oh, don't get me wrong, I'd enjoy a playable Chrom as DLC. I'd actually be pretty excited about it, but with Lucina already playable, who would match up with Robin in her Final Smash? They could pick a random character but then they'd also have to go find the original voice actors to do very small amounts of voice acting, have to create a new model for that character, rig and animate it since it couldn't be the same animations as Chrom unless they used a sword, I guess. All that in addition to creating a new character that Sakurai already thought wasn't unique enough to make the original roster.
Morrigan could work
A student of mine just scratched my hand during a handshake. I don't know whether he did it just to screw with me or....screw with me... :/
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Only to the really salty ones, and I know of some.

I have no ill will towards his fanbase at all, just those select very few people who remain salty after a whole damn year.

I like the character myself.
Speak for yourself, after getting all arrogant about replacing my boy :4myfriends:, I just don't forget that.
Sorry Chrom fans, you brought it on yourself
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I just want a damn Zelda rep, I don't even care who at this point
 

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I just want a damn Zelda rep, I don't even care who at this point
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Speak for yourself, after getting all arrogant about replacing my boy :4myfriends:, I just don't forget that.
Sorry Chrom fans, you brought it on yourself
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As someone who hates Chrom and said "Why replace Ike? That means he'd have Ike's moves" and got "FORK U CKRAM BEST WAIFU" as an answer I agree
 
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Morrigan could work
Morgan? I guess that is an option, but it would be less work some places, more in others. They could modify Robin's model and set to use Chrom's animations. You'd have to switch the gender with Robin's gender, though. Male Morgan with Male Robin wouldn't work. Then you would need to track down twice the voice actors if you wanted to make it authentic.
 

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Then you would need to track down twice the voice actors if you wanted to make it authentic.
To be fair, :4robinf: isn't voiced by her main VA in Awakening, who was Michelle Ruff, and Lauren Landa does a spot on impression.

Voices aren't THAT big of an issue.
 
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Morgan? I guess that is an option, but it would be less work some places, more in others. They could modify Robin's model and set to use Chrom's animations. You'd have to switch the gender with Robin's gender, though. Male Morgan with Male Robin wouldn't work. Then you would need to track down twice the voice actors if you wanted to make it authentic.
Not really, especially as DLC can get you the second Morgan
 

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First of all, Gaiden was still Akanea despite being a different continent and last time I checked SerenesForest listed SS as Elibe
Sacred Stones isn't Elibe.

Gaiden is explicitly stated in the same world as the Akaneia series. Different continent, but same setting. Gaiden means side-story in Japanese, which is exactly what this game is. Even some characters from FE1-3 appear in this game, such as the Pegasus Sisters Est, Palla and Catria.

In fact, Awakening serves as a distant sequel to the Akaneia series and features both Akaneia and Valentia, albeit renamed as Ylisse and Valm.

Sacred Stones is a different world altogether with no connections to Elibe and has a different backstory altogether. Some people classify SS as Elibe because it's to have all 3 GBA games under one category, but it isn't canonically part of the Elibe saga.

Pretty much. :4feroy: represents the GBA similar to:4robinm: representing the 3DS/Modern era.
You can say that, yeah.

Roy was the first GBA era protagonist, much like how Ike was the first GCN/Wii era protagonist.

You could argue that all FE characters represent different eras and changes in the franchise.

Marth could represent the NES/SNES era as it was when the series was handled by the original creator, Shouzou Kaga, and they all have a similar art style and presentation. He also has the DS remakes and was redesigned this time to match his latest appearances.

Roy's game was sort of a reboot of the series after Kaga's departure from IntSys and the first handheld game in the series. It simplified some mechanics and, along with Marth, was influential in bringing the series to the West thanks to Smash Bros. Melee.

Ike's games saw a return of the series to home consoles and the first full saga to be released outside of Japan, as well as being the first 3D games of the series.

Robin and Lucina come from Awakening, a major success in the series and essentially saved the franchise, as admitted by IntSys. The 3DS game also saw many changes to the games, bringing a new art style and new features. And fanservice.

Fire Emblem is just extremely lucky, honestly. It has nothing to do with representing anything. The series was only going to have 3, and would've been set with that.

Marth was the original and most popular, the Pikachu. Ike was added as a fully unique newcomer for the series in Brawl, and none of those got cut (disregarding legal and tech reasons). Robin was added because Awakening sold well, and he was quite unique and could represent Fire Emblem well overall.

Lucina was only going to be the equivalent of Alph or Male Wii Fit Trainer. Roy only got in because he was next in line as a Melee rep once Mewtwo got in. If Dr. Mario hadn't made the base game, it's possible he could've been picked as well (I still think it would've been Roy, but who knows). He probably would not have gotten in as DLC of the set wasn't planned as Brawl, Melee and Newcomer.

That said, since the series does have 5 now, and the only one who was even considered for a spot was Chrom and he has a fairly large in-game role that it wouldn't make sense and would be a lot of unnecessary work to cover. I doubt any FE character would've even been considered for DLC if they didn't do cut characters.
Pretty much this.

Marth, Ike and Robin were the only planned FE characters. Lucina and Roy were added out of different circumstances.

Roy only is in the game thanks to his popularity mostly stemming from his previous appearance in Melee. He was also considered for Brawl, but this time around, it's likely that he wasn't as considered as before with Awakening being the new big thing, so obviously Sakurai would prioritize someone from that game.

Still, I think Roy as a somewhat important character thanks to his role in bringing the series to the West along with Marth. I don't think Marth alone would've attracted more attention. Roy's flashy fiery style helped things, setting him apart from Marth and showing the character diversity that exists in the FE series.
 
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To be fair, :4robinf: isn't voiced by her main VA in Awakening, who was Michelle Ruff, and Lauren Landa does a spot on impression.

Voices aren't THAT big of an issue.
Huh. I definitely thought that her Smash voice actor was one of her alternate ones. Welp.

Not really, especially as DLC can get you the second Morgan
You're right! I had to look that up, I never played that DLC (though I should've). Double welp.

Yeah, I guess Morgan is the best option. That said, changing this is still more work than they would have to do for any fighter added as DLC. I don't really see it happening. Plus, Morgan would just look like two Robins floating around for the Final Smash, too, if that makes any difference at all.
 
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So I'm catching up on this thread since i went on vacation last week. I'm on page 361 of the current 439. I'm suspecting most of it will be paying tribute to Mr. Iwata and his shocking, unexpected death. I still can't believe it myself. I wish his family and friends peace. He was such a playful, energetic man. You could tell he loved what he did. Such a loss. Truly a sad happening.

I'll talk to you all once i catch up, probably in a few days considering I have 3,112 more messages to read. But i'm hoping you'll watch my progress as i like posts.
 

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I'm the only one that doesn't care about the fanservice Fire Emblem has to offer. Like, I simply don't care. I'm kinda getting into the series so all that stuff isn't important to me. Granted, it seems like it's important but it really isn't, though I may be confusing it with something else.
 

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So I'm catching up on this thread since i went on vacation last week. I'm on page 361 of the current 439. I'm suspecting most of it will be paying tribute to Mr. Iwata and his shocking, unexpected death. I still can't believe it myself. I wish his family and friends peace. He was such a playful, energetic man. You could tell he loved what he did. Such a loss. Truly a sad happening.

I'll talk to you all once i catch up, probably in a few days considering I have 3,112 more messages to read. But i'm hoping you'll watch my progress as i like posts.
A good 10 pages in there will be Evo Ramblings :p
 

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So I'm catching up on this thread since i went on vacation last week. I'm on page 361 of the current 439. I'm suspecting most of it will be paying tribute to Mr. Iwata and his shocking, unexpected death. I still can't believe it myself. I wish his family and friends peace. He was such a playful, energetic man. You could tell he loved what he did. Such a loss. Truly a sad happening.

I'll talk to you all once i catch up, probably in a few days considering I have 3,112 more messages to read. But i'm hoping you'll watch my progress as i like posts.
A lot is EVO, also. I actually skipped a lot of those pages.

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I'm the only one that doesn't care about the fanservice Fire Emblem has to offer. Like, I simply don't care. I'm kinda getting into the series so all that stuff isn't important to me. Granted, it seems like it's important but it really isn't, though I may be confusing it with something else.
I don't care about Fire Emblem fan service either. I like the supports as a feature but I care about other aspects of the game more. That said, unless you were referring to something else, I don't think anyone was talking about that lol.
 
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To be fair, :4robinf: isn't voiced by her main VA in Awakening, who was Michelle Ruff, and Lauren Landa does a spot on impression.

Voices aren't THAT big of an issue.
On the Japanese version, they actually got both Robins' voice actors back. Same for Palutena, who also has a different VA from KIU in English but not in Japanese.

The English language replacements do a good job in filling up the roles, though. The characters sound authentic to their original selves.

Anyway, I don't think Chrom will be DLC. Why would they throw away the resources and time spent in modelling and animating Chrom for the Final Smash?

DLC is always meant to add to the game. If DLC is going to scrap content from the default game, it seriously means a lack of efficient planning and resource management.

I'm the only one that doesn't care about the fanservice Fire Emblem has to offer. Like, I simply don't care. I'm kinda getting into the series so all that stuff isn't important to me. Granted, it seems like it's important but it really isn't, though I may be confusing it with something else.
The issue is that Fire Emblem was still one of the few Japanese SRPG series to not have that kind of fanservice.

Sure, Awakening saved the franchise and, let's face it, it was because of the fanservice that attracted the weeb crowd. This change in direction split the FE fanbase in two very clear halves. The newer fans who care more about the waifus rather than the strategy aspect that is the foundation of the franchise, and the older fans who don't want to be stereotyped as otakus obsessed with 2D waifus and that sort of stuff that a lot people dislike in recent Japanese media. FE Fates only aggravated the issue.

This is not a thing exclusive to the FE fandom. A lot of older anime fans are also unhappy with the recent direction Japanese media has been taking. It has created a lot of stereotypes and doesn't paint a good image for potential newer fans who don't know a lot about it.

Even some anime creators (especially among the elder generations) have a distaste for what anime/manga has become overall. Hence the infamous Hayao Miyazaki meme "Anime is nothing but trash". (He never said that, but the meme stems from an interview in which he does criticize the industry.)
 
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The issue is that Fire Emblem was still one of the few Japanese SRPG series to not have that kind of fanservice.

Sure, Awakening saved the franchise and, let's face it, it was because of the fanservice that attracted the weeb crowd. This change in direction split the FE fanbase in two very clear halves. The newer fans who care more about the waifus rather than the strategy aspect that is the foundation of the franchise, and the older fans who don't want to be stereotyped as otakus obsessed with 2D waifus and that sort of stuff that a lot people dislike in recent Japanese media. FE Fates only aggravated the issue.

This is not a thing exclusive to the FE fandom. A lot of older anime fans are also unhappy with the recent direction Japanese media has been taking. It has created a lot of stereotypes and doesn't paint a good image for potential newer fans who don't know a lot about it.

Even some anime creators (especially among the elder generations) have a distaste for what anime/manga has become overall. Hence the infamous Hayao Miyazaki quote/meme "Anime is nothing but trash".
I understand. Sounds like a stupid conflict of sorts, but fans will be fans. Especially newer ones. I care about the gameplay myself, and after playing Sacred Stones on my 3DS, I can see why FE is a good but hectic (as of now) franchise, given the fanservice it got starting in Awakening onwards. I may not have that game, but I realize why it saved the franchise from plummeting.

Is that quote the real deal? Like, did Miyazaki really say that?
 

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I understand. Sounds like a stupid conflict of sorts, but fans will be fans. Especially newer ones. I care about the gameplay myself, and after playing Sacred Stones on my 3DS, I can see why FE is a good but hectic (as of now) franchise, given the fanservice it got starting in Awakening onwards. I may not have that game, but I realize why it saved the franchise from plummeting.

Is that quote the real deal? Like, did Miyazaki really say that?
Miyazaki said it but trolls use it out of context
 

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Figured it was about time to change my avatar.

So I changed it to Meta Knight.

Because why not.

Edit: why is the image so small

i spent all this time trying to look for one that would fit but all i get is this
 
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So speaking of Fire Emblem, I've been playing Sacred stones. Amazing game.
 

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Not really, especially as DLC can get you the second Morgan
Isn't this wrong? [collapse=spoiler]You only see the opposite gender Morgan in the Future Past. You don't get to recruit them.[/collapse]
 
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next smashified is bomberman from the looks of it.

Twitter background is bomberman-esque right?
dissapointed it is another 3rd party
 

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From what I hear it's one of the worst. That says something. The only ones that are worse according to most fans are the NES games and Shadow Dragon
Sacred Stones is far from the worst. That title goes to probably FE1-3 or FE11.

Sacred Stones is actually known for being the easiest game in the series. Easier than FE7 and Awakening.
 

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well seeing as your not counting the attacks and moves listed in the picture i can only assume your talking about how they play in game.....which is selecting text prompts in menus.....like everyone else in the mother series....and the pokemon series....and the fire emblem series
secondly "canonically" is where you dont have an argument...because well olimars not that big Canonically
that. that doesn't make any sense. ness and lucas literally Do Not use the specials they have in smash, outside of ness' pk flash. lucas' signature move is relegated to being used in some smash attacks. ness doesn't even get that. to think that ninten would be considered a special enough snowflake for some reason is... silly.
okay, let me put this in terms you might understand. what if they put male and female wii fit trainer in as separate characters. their designs are distinct by having different heads and torsos.
ness and ninten are visually distinct by:
-having slightly different hair coming out from the hat
-having their hats turned different ways
-having different colored socks
this isn't something that has anything to do with size. it's the character, for all intents and purposes, already being in smash.

also re:mother
it's... it's pretty bad. it's a slightly less painful dragon quest clone.
 
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I understand. Sounds like a stupid conflict of sorts, but fans will be fans. Especially newer ones. I care about the gameplay myself, and after playing Sacred Stones on my 3DS, I can see why FE is a good but hectic (as of now) franchise, given the fanservice it got starting in Awakening onwards. I may not have that game, but I realize why it saved the franchise from plummeting.
I may have liked both Radiant Dawn and Awakening, but I know that Radiant Dawn is superior in many aspects.

Radiant Dawn has better story, better written characters and more strategic gameplay.

Awakening isn't bad and actually introduced some neat concepts and a lot of the new classes brought freshness to the game, but in other aspects, it was a step down from Radiant Dawn. Aside a few exceptions, a good bunch of the characters were just one-dimensional walking anime character archetypes. There were few characters to actually have development.

Admittedly, I also like some anime that clearly has otaku pandering with fanservice and shallow characters, but I can't say I appreciate those anime as much as I did to others where there are actual characters, no fanservice bull**** and had an engaging storyline (Parasyte, Death Note, FMA Brotherhood...).

An analogy would be comparing fast-food, which is cheap and you can eat quickly in your break, but lacks flavor, to actual food, traditionally-made and with flavor, but more expensive.

This is pretty much my stance in regards to anime nowadays. There's the cheap otaku-pandering stuff that I can find entertaining, but doesn't have much impact, and there are the masterpieces that have quality storylines and have emotional impact in the viewer.

Is that quote the real deal? Like, did Miyazaki really say that?
The quote is false, but he has said similar things. I actually edited my post to best reflect that.
 

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Darn it Meta Knight isn't working out. Switching back to Pac.

But my journey wasn't entirely in vain. In my search for a new Pac-Man pic I found.... this:



I don't know what to make out of this
 

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Darn it Meta Knight isn't working out. Switching back to Pac.

But my journey wasn't entirely in vain. In my search for a new Pac-Man pic I found.... this:



I don't know what to make out of this
>Dat Spoiler

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I wish that pic never exist. Why did you bring this to life?
 

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RIP official character Discussion thread

this board is now linked in the new Official DLC thread so maybe we will get new members :awesome:
FRESH MEAT!
at least he didnt combine sonic with PIKACHU too. . .
Should we still call Chris chan Chris chan? I remember hearing that she started hormone therapy, so obviously the name might need to change
 

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I honestly don't know why it exists.

But something like this cannot go unnoticed.
Oh yes it can. We can send it back to the dead where it belongs

FRESH MEAT!

Should we still call Chris chan Chris chan? I remember hearing that she started hormone therapy, so obviously the name might need to change
Not exactly, he's now known as Christina and he's kinda taking some but he's being really lazy with it. But I like to leave that lolcow alone until he goes back on trial
 

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next smashified is bomberman from the looks of it.

Twitter background is bomberman-esque right?
dissapointed it is another 3rd party
But what about the red scarf we saw?
Edit: Nevermind I forgot he had one, bomberman it is.
 
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Oh yes it can. We can send it back to the dead where it belongs


Not exactly, he's now known as Christina and he's kinda taking some but he's being really lazy with it. But I like to leave that lolcow alone until he goes back on trial
Thing is, you don't get hormones by asking, I know some trans people, nice gals they are, but if the doctors are giving hormones, then this is serious
 

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Another third party? So out of the current 9 Smashified characters, there are only 2 Nintendo characters. Wow.
 
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