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NintenZone Social Thread: Shovel Knight Amiibo Hype Catastrophe (feat. Swamp)

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This year's presentation was so underwhelming...I just can't express my disappointment as valid words or grammar...
When Reggie mentioned a transformation, I don't think any of us expected that they'd go all Rare on some franchises
ouch, this just hurts
 
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Spazzy_D said:
Let's step back and realize that one of the main things people are praising from the conference is a kick starter. We are super excited to have the opportunity to pay money to maybe get a good game.... and it's not even a Sony console exclusive!

Let that sink in!

Also, I can't believe that I'm the only one that found the Last Guardian gameplay to be dreadfully boring.
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Thank God someone else says it. Since yesterday I've been telling people that it was not all that great, but everyone's too hyped over nothing. TLG is one of the most anticipated games of all time (in terms of new IP), yet that gameplay shown looked extremely poor. FF7 is coming first to PS4, not exclusive at all. Shenmue was a straight up cash in from Sony "Hey this is a game that we have nothing do with, but it's creator is bringing his game to our platform, so support him or it's not coming at all."

They have nothing this year aside from Uncharted( which was shown last year) TLG, FF World, Dreams, and Horizon. Microsoft had a lot more to show, and so did Nintendo.
 
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Oh my god....

It just hit me.

Mr. L meeting Mario & Luigi version of Luigi shall be golden.

Please happen.
 
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You know I'm really looking forward to Mario and Luigi's Paper Jam's comedic potential, just imagine Bowser vs Bowser, seems he won't have to share the spotlight this time as the main villain this time.

Although I still want a Mario and Luigi game where Peach and Daisy are playable, plus that would be a great excuse to go back to Sarahsaland finally.

Edit: Also I would love if they mixed all 3 styles of Mario RPGs, that would totally be awesome
 
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Thank God someone else says it. Since yesterday I've been telling people that it was not all that great, but everyone's too hyped over nothing. TLG is one of the most anticipated games of all time (in terms of new IP), yet that gameplay shown looked extremely poor. FF7 is coming first to PS4, not exclusive at all. Shenmue was a straight up cash in from Sony "Hey this is a game that we have nothing do with, but it's creator is bringing his game to our platform, so support him or it's not coming at all."

They have nothing this year aside from Uncharted( which was shown last year) TLG, FF World, Dreams, and Horizon. Microsoft had a lot more to show, and so did Nintendo.
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Even with this being true, it's all about the packaging and understanding the internet. That's why even with Nintendo bringing us better stuff over the E3 WEEK, they'll "lose" E3 while Sony will "Win" it.

- Nintendo had 2 of it's biggest announcements leaked: Smash DLC and Hyrule Warriors 3DS.
- Smash's direct was on a Sunday opposed to Tuesday, which we now know that the Tuesday's direct could have used the announcement.
- Sony "debuts" 2 to 3games that fans have wanted for years. Even if they aren't directly tied to Sony.
- Nintendo fans expected Nintendo to give us something we truly wanted and we only got half of it: New Metroid game, but a spin-off. New Animal Crossing game but not the Wii U one.
- Nintendo fans also expected new DLC for current games and none were announced (Mario Kart 8 & Splatoon, announcement of Wolf returning to Smash Bros.)
- Most of Nintendo's announcements in their E3 were just more confirmation of things we already know are coming: Star Fox Wii U, Xenoblade X, Fire Emblem Fates, SMT x FE and Yoshi's Wooly World. Two of those are already OUT in Japan.
- Sony disguises their lack of 1st party games with shiny games people want (though none of them are even coming out anytime soon.

So even if you want to argue that Nintendo is bringing us MORE content then anyone else this E3... they did a horrible job of PRESENTING it, while Sony isn't bringing much and they presented it very well. Sony's PR wins E3. Not necessarily their content. On the internet it's all about the packaging. Did we forget that Earthbound Beginnings was announced Monday?

If Nintendo packed all of their stuff into one announcement... I think Nintendo would have won E3. But by spreading it out over the week, Sony takes the cake and wins E3. It's one of those "It's the Internet" scenarios where some topic/issues/games weigh more online then they actually do in their true worth.
 
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I just hope that Hyrule Warriors Wii U version gets the 3DS version stuff as DLC. I don't want to buy a 3DS version of the game JUST for Tetra, King of Red Lions and possible Linkle (who needs to be renamed Aryll.) I have to level all these bums to level 255 now... (I think that is max level) So don't make me have to do it again. :p
 
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I wonder if they'll keep some of the good stuff for a closed door press conference like they did with Pac-Man.
 
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And if they show off anything behind close doors.

Lol. No Smash people. Smash is done for E3.
 
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Sonicthesneak said:
So even if you want to argue that Nintendo is bringing us MORE content then anyone else this E3... they did a horrible job of PRESENTING it, while Sony isn't bringing much and they presented it very well. Sony's PR wins E3. Not necessarily their content. On the internet it's all about the packaging. Did we forget that Earthbound Beginnings was announced Monday?

If Nintendo packed all of their stuff into one announcement... I think Nintendo would have won E3. But by spreading it out over the week, Sony takes the cake and wins E3. It's one of those "It's the Internet" scenarios where some topic/issues/games weigh more online then they actually do in their true worth.
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Of course there is no debating the fact that Sony "won" E3, but we have to look at the bigger picture. E3 is not supposed to be which presentation is more shiny and grandiose, it's a time for console makers to say "Hey! This is why you need to buy our console instead of that other one.", and Sony failed at that. 80% of their lineup is coming to other consoles.

Microsoft did a way better job of convincing me to buy an XBone, and although Nintendo managed their presentation poorly, they still have a solid lineup coming up. I think Nintendo will keep providing the best experience E3 wise, given they don't depend solely on the presentation, but they needed to excite the internet with that Digital Event, and they dropped the ball. People will look at that and say "Nintendo's E3 2015 was horrible" without looking at the NWC, the Smash Direct or the Treehouse.
 
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Of course there is no debating the fact that Sony "won" E3, but we have to look at the bigger picture. E3 is not supposed to be which presentation is more shiny and grandiose, it's a time for console makers to say "Hey! This is why you need to buy our console instead of that other one.", and Sony failed at that. 80% of their lineup is coming to other consoles.

Microsoft did a way better job of convincing me to buy an XBone, and although Nintendo managed their presentation poorly, they still have a solid lineup coming up. I think Nintendo will keep providing the best experience E3 wise, given they don't depend solely on the presentation, but they needed to excite the internet with that Digital Event, and they dropped the ball. People will look at that and say "Nintendo's E3 2015 was horrible" without looking at the NWC, the Smash Direct or the Treehouse.
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Historically, the company who "wins" E3 tends to have a bad year.

Source: Anecdotal evidence and opinion. I suppose it has something to do with E3 wins being attributed to big reveals of games that the public likely won't see for 2-3 years.
 
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Also as far as I know from that schedule, don't expect somenews at a secret press conference because there is none it seems.
 
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I do really like the Tree House, though, great format.

Star Fox looks soooooo good... I didn't get hyped from the trailer but he gameplay looks great.
 
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XLIFE said:
Of course there is no debating the fact that Sony "won" E3, but we have to look at the bigger picture. E3 is not supposed to be which presentation is more shiny and grandiose, it's a time for console makers to say "Hey! This is why you need to buy our console instead of that other one.", and Sony failed at that. 80% of their lineup is coming to other consoles.

Microsoft did a way better job of convincing me to buy an XBone, and although Nintendo managed their presentation poorly, they still have a solid lineup coming up. I think Nintendo will keep providing the best experience E3 wise, given they don't depend solely on the presentation, but they needed to excite the internet with that Digital Event, and they dropped the ball. People will look at that and say "Nintendo's E3 2015 was horrible" without looking at the NWC, the Smash Direct or the Treehouse.
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Yeah. I agree with your statement and that is what I was trying to say at the end. Nintendo brings more to the table, but most people on the internet will ONLY check the press release/direct stream and miss out on the overall picture.

Thus the whole "some things are worth more on the internet then they should be" bit I said before. If Nintendo wanted to win E3 in the traditional way, they would have packed everything into Tuesday. But as Nintendo said last year, they aren't interested in winning E3 in the traditional sense.

But by going that route, they (Nintendo) have to accept that to people who only look at E3 in the traditional sense, they not only "Lost" E3, but they lost badly. In that sense, Sony also wins where in reality, you can debate if Sony won E3 or if Square Enix won E3.

Personally, E3 this year was meh for me all around. In terms of games I plan on actually buying... MS never stood a chance and nothing Sony themselves announced I want. Not even the FF7 remake. I do want KH3 but that will be out when I am eligible for AARP. Nintendo won for me because they have games that I actually want (FE Fates & Xenoblade X) but I knew about those games BEFORE E3. Though I am sorely disappointed in no online Dogfights for Star Fox Zero. It's something that game sorely needs. That said, I am well aware that I will be in the minority, and that Sony comes out of E3 as the winner. But that just says that we all need to look at who "wins" E3 and how they "win" it.
 
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Kat is back in Star Fox

I swear if that one lynx character from star fox 2 is in this. . .

is thta mini robot from project guard?
 
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There was Yokai Watch I guess.
 
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Star Fox being developed by Platinum is another thing.

But they've been partnered with Platinum for a looooong time.
 
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Don't count your chickens.

It used to be about gaming as a whole.

Then a hype thing for Sony happened.

I have a feeling you will change when a hype thing for Nintendo happens.
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The thing is, getting new consoles nowadays requires very significant convincing out of me. The only reason why I bought a Wii U was because Mega Man showed up as a character in Smash 3DS & Wii U. While there are some great titles on the Wii U, none of them necessitates me experiencing them to be satisfied with gaming. Getting a console means having a game that I absolutely must have and Smash Wii U with Mega Man was that game for the Wii U. It is also why I want a PS4 now because The Last Guardian is a game I feel I simply must experience. Shenmue III, The Witcher III, and the Final Fantasy VII remake (assuming they keep the traditional RPG play style) I also want but they aren't "essential" titles for me.

I won't have that for the NX. I'm sure there will be some great titles on it as well but like I said before, I need games that I absolutely must have before I purchase a console. But there's not going to be anything like that. I don't need another Smash now that Mega Man is in so Smash is out. F-Zero would be great but aside from me doubt we'll ever get one again, the only one I feel I need is F-Zero GX and I expect that to satisfy me for F-Zero games. Mother 3 is the only title that could do that but I expect a Virtual Console release on the Wii U later on anyway once enough time has spanned from EarthBound Beginnings. Plus it's disheartening to see Nintendo commit PR suicide when they're in a position where they could very well go third-party and/or mobile-only in the next 5-10 years. I didn't expect Sony E3's level, but the turnout of the Digital Event is unacceptable.

I got burnt pretty badly by the PlayStation 3 when Gran Turismo 5 turned out to be a huge disappointment and Gran Turismo 6 walked into micro-transaction territory (which offended me to the point of not buying it). I'm not making that mistake again.
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Iwata tweeted that he realized people are disappointed with the direct. Will work on improving people's expectations this year.
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I will believe it when I see it.
 
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