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Still better than Yooka-Laylee.If they can't get Banjo and Kazooie, I've got the next best alternative.
Urasring and Swellow.
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Still better than Yooka-Laylee.If they can't get Banjo and Kazooie, I've got the next best alternative.
Urasring and Swellow.
Tossed in a vote for Lyon.The winner of the last poll was Prince Ephraim. As expected, Eirika was decently popular but failed to reach her brother's level of popularity. Though Seth and Innes were proven to be just as unpopular.
This next one is the last Sacred Stones poll, with half fan favorite units and half villains. Your choices are Valter, Lyon, Joshua, and Lute.
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That’d be so horrible I kinda want it to happen~If they can't get Banjo and Kazooie, I've got the next best alternative.
Urasring and Swellow.
Imagine how many people who want Geno might get started back up if a character, like K.Rool or Heihachi, who were a costume, got confirmed as a playable character.And your point is...?
Saying people are being dumb isn't that much better.ITT: being dumb about a fictional character's chance to appear in a video game is equivalent to terrorism
To be fair it was likely meant to be a consolation prize for doing well in the ballot, but I still think Geno doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell for other reasons.Imagine how many people who want Geno might get started back up if a character, like K.Rool or Heihachi, who were a costume, got confirmed as a playable character.
You know people will use that as evidence for Geno. Charizard was a Pokeball pokemon, becomes a character for Brawl. Little Mac was a Assist Trophy, is made a character for the next Smash. Now for the next step.....Costumes! To a Character!That already happened as Inklings were a costume and are now a character.
I think he'll just tag with Shane or something.Chrono.
@AreJay25
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Mythra
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/85vdq9/daniel_bryan_medically_cleared_to_return_to/
What do you guys make out of this and how does it change the WM34 card?
i was going to say that this post is extreme but that’s already been resolved. I’ll say this though, geno has been considered for every game post 64. We can say Banjo and a lot of other reps really aren’t comparable and probably don’t get as much thought as geno has. Will he ever be playable probably not but he’s still always in the back of sakurai’s mind at the very leastI mean I can relate to that, I've seen tons of people say that Geno has a shot and I have to resist the urge not to report those posts for terrorism.
This actually happened to me when I made a similar joke in one of the old Social's. People are really sensitive to these things I guess. Don't beat yourself too much about it.In case it wasn't clear I don't actually think people who find Geno likely are terrorists
It was a joke
Do you think he has a chance of winning MITB this year?I think he'll just tag with Shane or something.
Unless AJ is really injured and they gotta find a replacement for him.
You're correct.I think whatBurb is saying is sure, "Yep" doesn't break any NDA. But if Banjo really was in Smash then he could have just ignored the tweet. It's not like the guy responds to everything he gets sent.
The less convoluted outcome tends to be the correct one.That makes sense, but I think where Burb and I differ is I don’t think it prudent to rule out the possibility over this tweet, no matter how unlikely the outcome itself.
As head of Xbox, I think he'd know that the best thing to do in this situation would be to ignore the Tweet.While I agree that Banjo has a snowball's chance in the fire side of Hailfire Peaks, I'd have to disagree with you on something.
Should Banjo be in Smash and the agreements already made, Phil would indeed be under NDA. In which case, simply replying "yes" to such a question is the best thing he could have done without raising any suspicion. Had he said something else, like say, "I can't answer that," then he obviously would be hiding something. As the head of XBox, I'd suspect he's well aware of how to handle such a situation.
I think a lot of people believe Geno's in a better spot than before due to the Mii Costume and the interview where Sakurai said he wanted him in Brawl.Geno is basically at the same situation as Banjo, except
Who's in a worse position in your opinion?
- Not owned by a direct competitor
- He was actually considered in the past
- However, he has no future
- He's not the star of his own franchise
- And he's 10 times less iconic than Banjo (who is not iconic)
We did get a Chocobo hat with Cloud and Geno.The words ''I considered him for playable status" ''I wanted to make him playable." came out of Sakurai's mouth about Geno.
No such thing came out of his mouth about Banjo. To believe that the two equal out as a similar scenario is just as stupid as getting your hopes up about any character getting in.
Is there a chance he won't? Sure, because we have no idea what stopped Sakurai from adding him to Brawl and 3DS/Wii U. We don't know if Square vetoed him as playable status, if Sakurai simply didn't have time, or if he were lower priority seeing as how Cloud, Bayonetta, and Corrin were the final characters and they all had pretty extensive pallet swaps and different movesets.
But there's certainly a chance he will as well considering he probably placed well in the ballot, had a Mii costume made for him as the sole Mii costume that came with Cloud instead of any Square Enix's other more iconic characters they own, and Sakurai actually spoke out about him as a playable character and said he wanted to do it.
I think you have somewhat of a point, but are also reading too much into Sakurai's actions and words. The road ahead goes both ways in terms of reading Geno's fate, IMO.I think a lot of people believe Geno's in a better spot than before due to the Mii Costume and the interview where Sakurai said he wanted him in Brawl.
Personally, I think the opposite. He had the opportunity to get Geno in Smash 4 as DLC, but he chose to represent Final Fantasy instead.
This is a case of actions against words; and in situations such as these, it's best to go with actions.
Forgot about that hat, still a valid point, Chocobo's have spin-offs and what not, but there are other iconic characters Square owns that equally would have fit Miis, he chose Geno instead of them.We did get a Chocobo hat with Cloud and Geno.
Are you just referring to Squaresoft here and not Enix? Because you've left out Dragon Quest. If you do just mean Square, seems odd you'd put Lara there when she's an acquired property.But now that Cloud is out of the way and all of Square's other properities seem...questionable. (Sora is iconic but tied up in Disney, Lara Croft is in a place where her image isn't her iconic one, etc).
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I imagine what's more likely is that the respective copyright holders receive a royalty. It's not impossible for a fee straight up to be paid but royalties are what usually happens.Does Sakurai have to pay to used non nintendo characters? Or are laws like that different in Japan
That's my whole point, and has pretty much always been my main point when arguing that Geno would never happen. There would be no upside to going with Geno over Cloud. Literally none. With Geno, you get an obscure one-off Mario character with no future and a fandom that's shrunk drastically since the Brawl days. With Cloud, you get both Final Fantasy representation and the leading man in the game that made JRPGs mainstream.And surely you can't believe that when Sakurai was faced with the option of adding either Cloud Strife or Geno. He'd pick Geno over Cloud. That's just silly, Burb. Of course you add the most iconic face of JRPG's over the wooden puppet from that one Mario game who still has a lot of fan demand.
But now that Cloud is out of the way and all of Square's other properities seem...questionable. (Sora is iconic but tied up in Disney, Lara Croft is in a place where her image isn't her iconic one, etc). Should Sakurai choose to go back into Square's pool Geno might be the option he chooses due to the demand.
It's in the etc, but Lara being an acquired property means nothing. The company is Square Enix now. And she's one of their most iconic characters in their library.Are you just referring to Squaresoft here and not Enix? Because you've left out Dragon Quest. If you do just mean Square, seems odd you'd put Lara there when she's an acquired property.
On second thought, you could have included DQ in the etc. but DQ seems big enough and relevant enough to mention directly.
You are assuming one rep per company and those days are gone.That's my whole point. He went to Square with the intent of requesting to use Cloud. There would be no upside to going with Geno over Cloud. Literally none. With Geno, you get an obscure one-off Mario character with a fandom that's shrunk drastically since the Brawl days. With Cloud, you get both Final Fantasy representation and the leading man in the game that made JRPGs mainstream.
I think if the "opportunity came up again", he'd make the same choice and bring Cloud back. We've already seen how the community reacts to cuts. If Cloud was popular enough to make Sakurai take attention when Cloud was deemed by many to be "impossible", it's going to be hard to imagine just how high the demand for him would be if he got cut. The outcry will drown out the Geno support, and history will repeat itself.
Which also means he's one of the only characters Sakurai has put on record as having been rejected multiple times.(Also I'd like to note that Geno, Takamaru, and Ridley are some of the only characters Sakurai has been put on record as considering multiple times).
Not to mention if DQ got a rep in it'd most likely be for Japan and Japan only. It's not mega-watt in most countries in the world.
It's not about "one rep per third party". I'm aware that rule is bunk, and I never bought into it in the first place.You are assuming one rep per company and those days are gone.
Ryu and Mega Man.
Bayonetta and Sonic.
At this point it's most likely not ''Cloud or Geno. That's your choice."
It's the same process if he goes to Square this time and gets Cloud back, what's stopping him from asking for Geno. Because as I said he's probably the only remaining thing at Square Enix these days that makes much sense.
Dragon Quest and Braverly could sneak in, but I feel as if Braverly's days have passed. Dragon Quest's most iconic image is probably Slime and I don't know how that'd work.
I don't think Square even owns Sora. I think he's Disney's character if I'm mistaken so that's probably a no dice.
And I can see them pressuring him to use current Lara Croft and he'd probably no dice that.
Chances are it's probably the former.I imagine what's more likely is that the respective copyright holders receive a royalty. It's not impossible for a fee straight up to be paid but royalties are what usually happens.
Of course they could always be lent to use for free, really just depends on what agreement is settled on.
True on Lucas, but he also has the same thing Geno has. A lot of fan demand.Which also means he's one of the only characters Sakurai has put on record as having been rejected multiple times.
PK-WRONG!
Kind of funny when you think about what Geno is.
- He's not the star of his own franchise
Lucas though.It's in the etc, but Lara being an acquired property means nothing. The company is Square Enix now. And she's one of their most iconic characters in their library.
She's one of the most memorable female faces in gaming, back in Cloud's day? That was also the beginning of her hay-day. Same for Crash Bandicoot has a lot of demand right now. She also paved the way for Nathan Drake, etc. You can still a lot of the game play from her old games mimicked today.
Dragon Quest is popular, but I can't see it ever being considered prominent to gaming history to get a slot like Lara would. Not to mention if DQ got a rep in it'd most likely be for Japan and Japan only. It's not mega-watt in most countries in the world.
And I don't think Sakurai really does that anymore. Marth and Roy seemed like a one off thing.
Ehhh. I wouldn't call DQ a big deal.DQ is a bigger deal in the west than Geno is anywhere.
Never said it's a big deal.Ehhh. I wouldn't call DQ a big deal.
Geno isn't a big deal either, but don't let your feelings on Geno cloud just how prominent DQ is as a franchise in other parts of the world.
It certainly remains active in the west, but the sad thing is? I still talk to more people who expect reps from dead RPG franchises like Chrono over a DQ rep simply because they've never played DQ.
At the same time, DQ is available in the West, and it's certainly not a flop to the point where it's considered useless outside of Japan.True on Lucas, but he also has the same thing Geno has. A lot of fan demand.
Mother 3's fan demand still remains insane to this day.
You just made the list, chumThey don't need to go that far.
Rex and Pyra alone is enough for a full moveset.
My **** out.I think I need to change my pants after seeing this GODLY animation.
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****er always switches to QT just to use Scattershot when I Launch Kurodil, dunno why.Playing Tora in a nutshell:
"Holy ****! LOOK AT THIS DAMAGES, OHHH!!!"
Having the AI playing Tora in a nutshell:
"Holy ****! DO THE ****ING SMASH FOR GOD SAKE"
Chrono.
@AreJay25
@Champ Gold
Mythra
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/85vdq9/daniel_bryan_medically_cleared_to_return_to/
What do you guys make out of this and how does it change the WM34 card?
I don't care.You just made the list, chum
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