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[Aetheri]

I expected either Stars (which is likely Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon I don't know why people think otherwise) or the Sinnoh remakes to come to 3DS....

I can bet the next generation of Pokemon games could likely come to the Switch, especially at that point the Switch will have had more time to flourish in the market...One thing I find to be always consistent with Pokemon games is it that no generation has been split between different platforms especially since third versions/sequels/remakes more or less resuse the same resources as follow-ups rather than play as new games entirely...

then again Kimishima seems to think people want a true successor to the 3DS that isn't the Switch for some reason, and if that's the case then the next Pokemon games will likely come to that platform...

 

[mario123007]

I have told my brother I will buy Switch pronto if they release a main Pokemon game on Switch right before the Direct starts. Pokken Tournament DX is a 50/50... no scratch that... it looks awesome but it's not a main Pokemon game so guess I'll save my money for Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Wise words from a man named "Fred Fuchs":
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I know the man (mostly due to his DSP content) and he totally nailed it.

Now, where is Metroid-Life 3 Nintendo?

 

[JamesDNaux]

Wii U pokken owners getting ****ed. Glad I never bought it for just this reason but it's still pretty disapointing :/

What, how? The new fighters?

Are we not all sitting here, waiting for a potential Smash for Switch port with new fighters?

"Man they sure ****ed over the people who got Smash for Wii U/3DS!"


Not to mention literally every other fighting game ever. Ultra Super Street Fighter 2 Deluxe 3 & Knuckles.

 

[Coricus]

If I were Nintendo, I wouldn't have even put Pokken (or TMS or Zelda or Star Fox) on the Wii U at all. I would have saved them for the Switch launch

Star Fox was made specifically as a desperate attempt to prove that the Wii U's gimmick was worth something, so that wouldn't have happened either way. That game was another byproduct of the same bad decisions Nintendo is trying to run away from by ditching the Wii U as hard as they have in the first place.

TMS got them ripped apart similarly hard and while I heard the gameplay was solid probably wouldn't go over well either.

Zelda was saved for the Switch launch, they just probably already had the work done on the Wii U version to the point that it would have been a waste not to release it and didn't want to tick off the fandom. Wii U fans lash out at everything anyway, I can hardly imagine what not getting Zelda after years of being promised it would have done.

 

[Deleted member]

Alright but aren't we gonna talk about how the protagonists were wearing different sets of clothes during the whole starting segment?
Could we now customize clothing from the beginning?

Can we take a moment of silence and express our sorrow for Pokemon X and Y? With today's news, the poor games are the only generation games that didn't get a third version or a sequel of some sort to redeem themselves for most Pokemon fans.

*Zygarde to Nebby* "Geez, Cosmog, how come GF let you have FOUR games?"

I'm pretty sure we got to see the third lycanroc form:

It looks like midday but I don't think it is. The porportions are different:

Spoiler: midday for comparison

I don't know if you simply missed it but you can clearly see it's Midday before it jumps

 

[N3ON]

They look more like Digimon tbh

That ship sailed with like 4th gen imo.

Gaf is having a meltdown from their bloated expectations. Is that normal?

Business as usual.

There's no excuse for Nintendo ditching those that supported them by buying their sinking ship.
If there's a port, the new content should be DLC, leaving the ports to pull in the majority that didn't buy the WiiU

That's a horrible ****ing idea. Decreases the incentive to buy the game, alienates existing owners, comes off very greedy, generates more ill-will. There's a reason no company does this.

What good comes of it?

The press release page for US/UM in TPCi mentions a Switch version of US/UM...

[thinking emoji]

 

[A Distant Demon]

If you buy a sinking ship then that's on you.

Look man, as hardcore consumers, we know it's a bad idea to invest in wii U


But are you seriously defending the idea that "i bought a game that nintendo officially released, it's okay for me to be punished because of something unrelated to the software"

cmon. Based on this metaphor, Nintendo shouldnt be selling a sinking ship anyway. Either way it's screwed up.


No one should be punished for buying a game when there is no reason to believe there is an updated port coming up.

What, how? The new fighters?

Are we not all sitting here, waiting for a potential Smash for Switch port with new fighters?

"Man they sure ****ed over the people who got Smash for Wii U/3DS!"


Not to mention literally every other fighting game ever. Ultra Super Street Fighter 2 Deluxe 3 & Knuckles.

I actually hate the idea myself

Even then, a smash game doesnt have characters that were already released on another version never getting released for no good reason.


Wii U owners straight up got ****ed and never got the DLC the arcade version got and now Switch

 

[Wario Bros.]

Huh, Bulbapedia is filled to the brim with broken images on almost everything.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Huh, Bulbapedia is filled to the brim with broken images on almost everything.

Better call Warchamp

 

[Chrono.]

Because people may have missed my EDITS on my post last page:

- The "Nintendo Switch: TBA" thing was removed from the press release rather quickly
- Curiously, said press release doesn't mention the 3DS (or any console) by name, adding some fuel to the fire, as every other press release mentions it.

Overall I wouldn't think much of it just yet.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Decidueye's Pokkén Tournament art (big image)

Spoiler

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Decidueye's Pokkén Tournament art (big image)

Spoiler

oh, oh man, oh look at this prince

 

[Arcanir]

What, how? The new fighters?

Are we not all sitting here, waiting for a potential Smash for Switch port with new fighters?

"Man they sure ****ed over the people who got Smash for Wii U/3DS!"


Not to mention literally every other fighting game ever. Ultra Super Street Fighter 2 Deluxe 3 & Knuckles.

Smash isn't a good example since we still got the DLC for the characters that were released, you just got to pay for it. If anything, it's like Mario Kart 8, you could pay for the DLC for the Wii U version, or get the definitive version with them plus more for the next system. Pokken completely ignored the Wii U version and didn't give access to any of the new characters despite them existing in the data, so anyone who bought the Wii U version is getting left in the dust completely as they have no way of being able to play those characters unless they upgrade to the next game in the subseries.

And yeah, other fighting games do it, but that doesn't mean people were happy when they did it nor will they be happy when Pokken does it. It's a smart move to move units for the port, but for the fans who bought the original of course they're going to be disappointed.

 

[---]

I wish I had gotten more mileage out of Pokken on my Wii U. I bought it but I've honestly only played it for ~10 minutes thus far. Decidueye is cool despite being obvious. Hopefully there will be more arenas and some Gen 7 Assists to round things out.

It sucks that Crystal isn't getting a port. Stupid Japanese Mobile Phone features... Still it's nice to finally have every Generation of Pokemon connected together. 21+ years and still going strong.

 

[ChikoLad]

Oh hey, FE Heroes finally gave me something half decent.

Now I'm wishing we got a Bridal Clair.

 

[Chrono.]

I wish I had gotten more mileage out of Pokken on my Wii U. I bought it but I've honestly only played it for ~10 minutes thus far. Decidueye is cool despite being obvious. Hopefully there will be more arenas and some Gen 7 Assists to round things out.

There was a beach stage on the trailer that wasn't in the Wii U game so more maps are in for sure.

 

[Vickand]

Do you guys think there will be new alolan forms? Or just a different regional dex?

 

[Aurane]

Why is Solgaleo cosplaying a bad Batman? :V

 

[Coricus]

Let's be perfectly honest with ourselves: Pokemon Company telegraphed this.

"We still kind of need to figure out how to adapt Pokemon to consoles, things like Pokken and Mystery Dungeon would probably be easier to release for the Switch."

Now, then, guess what gets announced?

I'm still banking on that Mystery Dungeon sometime over the next year or so, by the way. It better not be gimped like Gates to Infinity.

 

[PLATINUM7]

What, how? The new fighters?

Are we not all sitting here, waiting for a potential Smash for Switch port with new fighters?

"Man they sure ****ed over the people who got Smash for Wii U/3DS!"


Not to mention literally every other fighting game ever. Ultra Super Street Fighter 2 Deluxe 3 & Knuckles.

I think the difference here is that 4 of the characters are already completed, exist in the arcade version and have been purposefully held back. They aren't entirely new content like Decidueye.

If it was just Decidueye, then yeah you should probably be getting use to fighting games (well really any game) doing this by now. Though it still sucks if a game isn't even that old.

 

[Mythra]

Decidueye's Pokkén Tournament art (big image)

Spoiler

Lookin' ready to challenge you to a Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel

 

[Wario Bros.]

I loved that the shelf in the Direct spoiled what we were going to see:

- Johto Starters
- Decidueye with Pikachu Libre
- Solgaleo & Lunala

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Now that "port everything you can" seems to be the strategy, I'm waiting for Hyrule Warriors: Linebeck & Groose Electric Boogaloo

Atlus whatever you do, don't port TMS....

I'm looking at you too, Monolith Soft.

 

[Deleted member]

Artwork for the boxart Pokémon

So basically, they're going the reverse Kyurem route with this?

 

[Burb]

Decidueye hype! :D So glad I didn't buy Pokken for Wii U.

Also lol at people saying Stars was fake. Just like Rainbow was fake, amirite? Stars was obviously the code name, like Niji.

The codename for what? Pokken? Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon? The Switch port of Sun and Moon somehow morphed into a Pokken port or a 3DS Sun/Moon sequel?

Just let it go, dood. It's over.

 

[Yellowlord]

Honestly, I have to wonder... with this Pokken Tournament port announcement, will that hinder the chances of Smash being announced? The fact the game releases in September concerns me.... please tease it at the very least, Nintendo. I think that's more then fair and I should be able to wait for it as long as I know that it exists.

 

[A Distant Demon]

I loved that the shelf in the Direct spoiled what we were going to see:

- Johto Starters
- Decidueye with Pikachu Libre
- Solgaleo & Lunala

Since someone posted the image, look at the games on the shelf.


Notice one gen missing. :thinking:

Spoiler

it's Sinnoh

 

[Chrono.]

Atlus whatever you do, don't port TMS....

I'm looking at you too, Monolith Soft.

I'd actually like a port of it.

And XCX was one of the big port rumors for aa while now.

 

[Coricus]

I loved that the shelf in the Direct spoiled what we were going to see:

- Johto Starters
- Decidueye with Pikachu Libre
- Solgaleo & Lunala

Further: Notice how there is no Diamond and Pearl anywhere to be found.

 

[Erureido]

I loved that the shelf in the Direct spoiled what we were going to see:

- Johto Starters
- Decidueye with Pikachu Libre
- Solgaleo & Lunala

It's also worth mentioning the boxes for Diamond and Pearl didn't appear at all in the background. Hmmmm.....

And looking at the above posts, I'm glad I'm not the only that noticed.

 

[Aurane]

I can't be not sarcastic about USUM so I'll leave it alone.

Decidueye in Pokken? Now that's the real gold here, gentlemen. And he is looking mighty fine, I must say.

And finally, Gold/Silver VC. Disappoint that there's no Crystal, which is the better version, but so be it. I could give Silver a buy. At least I'll have a use for my 3DS I can't sell.

 

[Deleted member]

Since someone posted the image, look at the games on the shelf.


Notice one gen missing. :thinking:

Spoiler

it's Sinnoh

SINNOH CONFIRMED

....AGAIN. :V
As if Lucario, Pipulp, and Luxray showing up in the movie weren't confirmation already :V

 

[PLATINUM7]

Nintendo's E3 website updated to include the Pokken DX tournament.

Nintendo seems to love the tournament format to hype up games. We've got Splatoon 2, Pokken DX and Arms events this year. Inb4 there's a Smash Switch invitational as well.

 

[ChikoLad]

I just hope Smash actually combines the Wii U/3DS version, and actually has substantial new content like new modes, such as an Adventure Mode.

I'm fine with updated ports/re-releases as long as the new content is substantial and feels like something I would expect from a sequel, while still keeping the content from the original. If it's just "hey here's a couple of new characters and stages for full price", then yeah, that's a problem.

Games like Hyrule Warriors Legends and Dissidia 012: Final Fantasy are how these types of endeavours should be handled. They serve as ports, but also sort of serve as sequels too.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Further: Notice how there is no Diamond and Pearl anywhere to be found.

and this means what exactly?

 

[Coricus]

and this means what exactly?

That they're hiding it so people don't get their expectations up too high before it's time. :V

 

[Burb]

Honestly, I have to wonder... with this Pokken Tournament port announcement, will that hinder the chances of Smash being announced? The fact the game releases in September concerns me.... please tease it at the very least, Nintendo. I think that's more then fair and I should be able to wait for it as long as I know that it exists.

I have the same concern, honestly.

People seem to be viewing the port as a good sign for Smash, but it's every bit as much of a bad sign. Yes, another "Deluxe" port is proof enough that MK8 wasn't a one-time thing, but at the same time, releasing too many ports would send a negative message to consumers.....that Nintendo doesn't have much new to offer, and that they basically just want you to buy the same old games again and again.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Now that "port everything you can" seems to be the strategy, I'm waiting for Hyrule Warriors: Linebeck & Groose Electric Boogaloo

Real talk.

I would buy that.

I see what you did.

Real talk.

I would buy that.

Atlus whatever you do, don't port TMS....

I'm looking at you too, Monolith Soft.

Real talk.

I would buy that.

 

[PLATINUM7]

I'd actually like a port of it.

And XCX was one of the big port rumors for aa while now.

I've been beginning to think that people who reported on that, if legitimate, probably got told Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and just assumed it meant Xenoblade Chronicles X, not realising the two are different games.