ChikoLad
Purple Boi
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Thinking Camilla is worse than Faye? Fine, that's debatable but there's no ****ing way Faye is a better written character than Celica.
I haven't played the game yet but the only way for that to happen is if Celica has literally one character trait that negatively affects her relationships.
Celica is extremely bland and boring up until the end of Act 2 where she completely turns into a bratty five year old for the sake of forcing some soap opera drama where she completely pisses all over everything Alm has been working for and condemns him for fighting for the Deliverance and marching on Rigelia, flat out lies to him and crushes his hopes by telling him that the Zofian heir he's hoping to find to take the Zofian throne doesn't exist (Celica herself is the heir and she knows it - I understand she can't tell him that but she didn't need to be so mean spirited, she could have just wished him good luck and acted none the wiser), and acts all high and mighty over how her path is so much more righteous and important even though she was the one who took a detour from her quest to see Alm, while Alm had been dead focused on his mission while still retaining good relationships with his friends. It all ends with this gem of a quote from Celica, truly becoming of a holy priestess/heir to a throne with an important and mature mission.
Alm barely gets a word in during this entire conversation and when he does, he's notably conflicted and aware that what he's doing may not be the best move, but ultimately feels marching on the Rigelian Empire is better than waiting for them to inevitably march back into Zofia again (which of course they were going to do as we see from some cutscenes), and to be fair he was kind of thrust into the leadership role of the Deliverance due to his connection to Sir Mycen. Celica doesn't listen to a word he says though and just constantly shouts at him. I don't care if this is just Celica being worried about Alm being killed on the battlefield, the way she acts here is petty and childish, and they could have achieved them going their separate ways in a much more graceful and reasonable fashion. It doesn't help that Celica has been absolutely wet for Alm the entirety of Act 2 whenever she thinks about him or hears about him, and yet this is how she treats him when she meets him.
To add insult to injury, right after all of this happens, Celica receives a warning from the Masked Man that the short route up the mountain to the Temple of Zofia has Rigelian soldiers already occupying it and the mountain is unstable to boot. She's told she should go around the mountain to the West, because although it will take longer, it's much safer. However, Celica refuses to go that way. Why? Not because she's pressed for time and wants to get to the Temple quicker - the main reason she ignores the Masked Man's warning is because she's afraid of running into Alm and having to face him since he's marching westward too. And of course, this results in Rigelians springing a trap that blows up the mountain as they are climbing it, and Celica and all of her companions are almost killed in the process. After this point, I've noticed that a lot of her dialogue, specifically when examining things in towns and what not, is very snobby and condescending.
I really, really wanted to like Celica because I love her design, she's a fun, effective unit, and her voice actress is great, and she's cute at the beginning when she's a kid. But I'm sorry, she's just such a brat, there's no other way to put it.
And this isn't like Faye who, regardless of what you think of her, you can at least avoid the vast majority of interactions with her. Hell, recruiting her is entirely optional. Celica is one of the main characters and the scene above is a pivotal, key scene in the main story and she's not likable at all in the slightest.
Alm barely gets a word in during this entire conversation and when he does, he's notably conflicted and aware that what he's doing may not be the best move, but ultimately feels marching on the Rigelian Empire is better than waiting for them to inevitably march back into Zofia again (which of course they were going to do as we see from some cutscenes), and to be fair he was kind of thrust into the leadership role of the Deliverance due to his connection to Sir Mycen. Celica doesn't listen to a word he says though and just constantly shouts at him. I don't care if this is just Celica being worried about Alm being killed on the battlefield, the way she acts here is petty and childish, and they could have achieved them going their separate ways in a much more graceful and reasonable fashion. It doesn't help that Celica has been absolutely wet for Alm the entirety of Act 2 whenever she thinks about him or hears about him, and yet this is how she treats him when she meets him.
To add insult to injury, right after all of this happens, Celica receives a warning from the Masked Man that the short route up the mountain to the Temple of Zofia has Rigelian soldiers already occupying it and the mountain is unstable to boot. She's told she should go around the mountain to the West, because although it will take longer, it's much safer. However, Celica refuses to go that way. Why? Not because she's pressed for time and wants to get to the Temple quicker - the main reason she ignores the Masked Man's warning is because she's afraid of running into Alm and having to face him since he's marching westward too. And of course, this results in Rigelians springing a trap that blows up the mountain as they are climbing it, and Celica and all of her companions are almost killed in the process. After this point, I've noticed that a lot of her dialogue, specifically when examining things in towns and what not, is very snobby and condescending.
I really, really wanted to like Celica because I love her design, she's a fun, effective unit, and her voice actress is great, and she's cute at the beginning when she's a kid. But I'm sorry, she's just such a brat, there's no other way to put it.
And this isn't like Faye who, regardless of what you think of her, you can at least avoid the vast majority of interactions with her. Hell, recruiting her is entirely optional. Celica is one of the main characters and the scene above is a pivotal, key scene in the main story and she's not likable at all in the slightest.