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[Shadowwolflink]

on the whole aloha forms thing. Two things

• its only gonna be gen 1 pokemon
• its only gonna be one form of the pokemon not the whole species

What that means it there's not gonna be an aloha execute,pikachu,persian,etc.Were probably gonna see pokemon like raticate,butterfree,koffing,golem,nidoking,etc pokemon with decent stats or are easily recognizable who didnt get megas receive aloha forms

If your second point was true, then why would the official site not show the evolution lines for those Pokemon? Also, how can a ground type evolve into a fire/ghost type or a dark type evolve into a normal type? It just doesn't make sense.

 

[Ura]

Was legitimately confused when that reveal happened. I was thinking to myself "where's the reveal?" until it was revealed that Falco was the newcomer. Always thought he was already in the game lol.

Here's hoping that the next two reveals will be a lot better. And hopefully they'll both be newcomers instead of veterans.

 

[SuperMii3D]

SSF2 plz....

 

[Wario Bros.]

I'm not surprised a veteran was revealed first. Obviously saving the newcomer(s) for last.

 

[n8han11]

So Falco is back... And he's mostly been reverted back to his Melee incarnation... Why does everyone keep reverting him back into a clone? I thought people wanted differentiation of the clones.

 

[Aetheri]

If your second point was true, then why would the official site not show the evolution lines for those Pokemon? Also, how can a ground type evolve into a fire/ghost type or a dark type evolve into a normal type? It just doesn't make sense.

Regular Cubone is shown evolving into Alolan Marowak in the Japanese trailer, mind you...

Remember Alola forms are still the same species who have adapted in a different way to the Alolan environment...That's why we still have SANDshrew despite it being an ice type now...

 

[Chrono.]

So Falco is back... And he's mostly been reverted back to his Melee incarnation... Why does everyone keep reverting him back into a clone? I thought people wanted differentiation of the clones.

Because Melee.

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Regular Cubone is shown evolving into Alolan Marowak in the Japanese trailer, mind you...

Remember Alola forms are still the same species who have adapted in a different way to the Alolan environment...That's why we still have SANDshrew despite it being an ice type now...

I'm sorry to Gamefreak or whoever, but that's just stupid. Does that now mean that Alolan Marowak can learn any (or at least most) of its original moveset on top of its new fire/ghost moveset? If that's the case then there will never be any reason to use original Marowak again.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

So Falco is back... And he's mostly been reverted back to his Melee incarnation... Why does everyone keep reverting him back into a clone? I thought people wanted differentiation of the clones.

For the same reason people disparage newcomer suggestions as niche, one time and irrelevant but will cry if Sheik is dropped.

 

[n8han11]

I mean, as much as people disparage Sakurai for including clones in Sm4sh, you have to give him credit: as least he didn't actively revert a character into a clone.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm sorry to Gamefreak or whoever, but that's just stupid. Does that now mean that Alolan Marowak can learn any (or at least most) of its original moveset on top of its new fire/ghost moveset? If that's the case then there will never be any reason to use original Marowak again.

Cubone doesn't learn every move original Marowak does though

 

[Shadowwolflink]

Regular Cubone is shown evolving into Alolan Marowak in the Japanese trailer, mind you...

Remember Alola forms are still the same species who have adapted in a different way to the Alolan environment...That's why we still have SANDshrew despite it being an ice type now...

Also, I just watched the Japanese trailer, it does not "show regular Cubone evolving into Alolan Marowak", it shows Cubone and Pikachu beginning to evolve, then it cuts to Alolan Marowak and Raichu being sent into battle. That seems an awful lot like a misdirect to me.

Cubone doesn't learn every move original Marowak does though

It's still probably learns enough moves for Alolan Marowak to have too many ground moves for a non-ground type Pokemon.

 

[Ura]

Well as long as they don't keep Falco's Brawl Shine then everything is fine.

So now there's two more characters left to be revealed. One of them i'm almost certain is a third-party character given his placement amongst the third party characters (the August 14th character) and the other i'm not sure about though i'm fairly confident that this character will be a newcomer.

So here are my 2 sets of predictions...

Optimistic

Falco
Andy
Crash Bandicoot

Realistic

Falco
K. Rool
Cloud

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

What if our Ghost/Fighting type is just a punk skeleton.
Called Raskull.

That'd fit well with Team Skull, but I've always imaged a Fighting/Ghost Pokemon to be a legendary based on a phantom horseback rider and charging in with a sword or joust. (think Phantom Ganon)

Also, someone mentioned an Alola form for Mawile a day or so ago, and I totally agree.
Especially if it looked something like this:

I want it so much. <3

Mawile's one of my favs from gen 3, along with Flygon, Shedinja, Seviper, and Armaldo (and some others, I think)

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[Chrono.]

It still probably learns enough moves for Alolan Marowak to have too many ground moves for a non-ground type Pokemon.

Wouldn't be the first time.

Noctowl learns over 10 Psychic type moves naturally despite being Normal/Flying.

 

[powerprotoman]

Also, I just watched the Japanese trailer, it does not "show regular Cubone evolving into Alolan Marowak", it shows Cubone and Pikachu beginning to evolve, then it cuts to Alolan Marowak and Raichu being sent into battle. That seems an awful lot like a misdirect to me.



It still probably learns enough moves for Alolan Marowak to have too many ground moves for a non-ground type Pokemon.

3 by level up
5 if you count tm's
6 if you move tutor in in oras

 

[Yellowlord]

Well; No Man's Sky is out, but it keeps crashing for me when it reaches the title screen (which is understandable for a game that literally just came out; the servers will be overloaded). Sadly, people are jumping to the conclusion that the PC version is bad because of this. Sheesh guys; give the game some time please...

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Personally hoping for K. Rool and Dedede, although I think it's given one of the characters will be third-party.

 

[BluePikmin11]

TIME FOR THEORIES! AUGUST 13TH SLOT IS RIDLEY OR ANDY! AUGUST 14TH IS LUFFY OR SOME OTHER THIRD PRTY!

I'm watching you McLeod. I know your way with slots. Especially with Falco. #SSF2

So hyped for tomorrow!

 

[Ura]

TIME FOR THEORIES! AUGUST 13TH SLOT IS RIDLEY OR ANDY! AUGUST 14TH IS LUFFY OR SOME OTHER THIRD PRTY!

I'm watching you McLeod. I know your way with slots. Especially with Falco. #SSF2

So hyped for tomorrow!

Andy & Crash please. Mostly the former though. Isaac made it in so I have more hope for Andy in SSF2 then I do for an official Smash Bros game.

 

[FalKoopa]

We got Melee Falco in SSF2? eh.

I really would have preferred his Brawl incarnation. Ah well. What can you do.

 

[Deleted member]

Also, I just watched the Japanese trailer, it does not "show regular Cubone evolving into Alolan Marowak", it shows Cubone and Pikachu beginning to evolve, then it cuts to Alolan Marowak and Raichu being sent into battle. That seems an awful lot like a misdirect to me.

What would be the point of misdirecting fans like that?
"Hey, here's normal Cubone evolving now here's Alolan Marowak oh but hey it's not normal Cubone but Alolan Cubone that evolves into it"

It's still probably learns enough moves for Alolan Marowak to have too many ground moves for a non-ground type Pokemon.

There are various cases where Pokemon learn a lot of non-stab moves as already mentioned before
Besides, who's to say normal Marowak won't get some ghost or fire moves this gen?

TIME FOR THEORIES! AUGUST 13TH SLOT IS RIDLEY OR ANDY! AUGUST 14TH IS LUFFY OR SOME OTHER THIRD PRTY!

I'm watching you McLeod. I know your way with slots. Especially with Falco. #SSF2

So hyped for tomorrow!

I bet they're all Luigi

 

[Wario Bros.]

I want King K. Rool.

But one thing I never understood after all the years that there are ZERO mods or fan games they have him (one of THE MOST wanted characters for the official games).

 

[Chrono.]

I want King K. Rool.

But one thing I understood after all the years that there are ZERO mods or fan games they have him (one of THE MOST wanted characters for the official games).

Wasn't the Ridley mod guy working on K.Rool for Project M?

 

[Wario Bros.]

Wasn't the Ridley mod guy working on K.Rool for Project M?

Yes, but he's still isn't finished and how long it took to make it a reality.

 

[Ivander]

Something I just thought of. How will Alolan Pokemon effect Breeding? And not just like which Pokemon will come from the egg, but will they have an effect on Egg Moves? Like if a Alolan Raichu with Psychic breeds with a Normal Raichu and then out of the egg comes a Pikachu that will evolve into normal Raichu, will that Pikachu know Psychic, allowing normal Raichu to use Psychic?
Or in the case of Normal Ninetails with Alolan Ninetails, can a Vulpix or Alolan Vulpix learn moves from the other's moveset? Like could a Vulpix get any Ice moves from Alolan Ninetails as Egg moves or an Alolan Vulpix get any Fire moves from Normal Ninetails as Egg moves?
I know there will probably be a bit of limits to what a Pokemon can get from their Alolan counterpart and vice-versa, like normal Raichu learning Psychic seems a bit more possible compared to Ninetails and Alolan Ninetails getting something from the other, but still it makes me wonder if Alolan counterparts will effect Egg Moves.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Oh God, please don't tell me you are actually liking that animated abomination...

Come one, what's better than nuts and a shack. The show is a masterpiece that many should show their children when growing up.

 

[Deleted member]

Something I just thought of. How will Alolan Pokemon effect Breeding? And not just like which Pokemon will come from the egg, but will they have an effect on Egg Moves? Like if a Alolan Raichu with Psychic breeds with a Normal Raichu and then out of the egg comes a Pikachu that will evolve into normal Raichu, will that Pikachu know Psychic, allowing normal Raichu to use Psychic?
Or in the case of Normal Ninetails with Alolan Ninetails, can a Vulpix or Alolan Vulpix learn moves from the other's moveset? Like could a Vulpix get any Ice moves from Alolan Ninetails as Egg moves or an Alolan Vulpix get any Fire moves from Normal Ninetails as Egg moves?
I know there will probably be a bit of limits to what a Pokemon can get from their Alolan counterpart and vice-versa, like normal Raichu learning Psychic seems a bit more possible compared to Ninetails and Alolan Ninetails getting something from the other, but still it makes me wonder if Alolan counterparts will effect Egg Moves.

My bet is that they'll work like Kyurem and its signature moves
In case you don't know, Glaciate is learned only by Kyurem while if it transforms into Black or White Kyurem, the move will be replaced with Ice Burn or Freeze Shock, respectively
So in this case, let's say you have a male Alola!Ninetales with Ice Beam and breed it with a female normal Ninetales: the resulting offspring would have Flamethrower instead of Ice Beam as that is the corresponding move for normal Vulpix

Just a guess though, they might go all crazy and allow them to learn the Alolan moves and vice-versa

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Come one, what's better than nuts and a shack. The show is a masterpiece that many should show their children when growing up.

No, just no....

No child should be exposed to the lowest of the low in terms of animation.

 

[Opossum]

Something I just thought of. How will Alolan Pokemon effect Breeding? And not just like which Pokemon will come from the egg, but will they have an effect on Egg Moves? Like if a Alolan Raichu with Psychic breeds with a Normal Raichu and then out of the egg comes a Pikachu that will evolve into normal Raichu, will that Pikachu know Psychic, allowing normal Raichu to use Psychic?
Or in the case of Normal Ninetails with Alolan Ninetails, can a Vulpix or Alolan Vulpix learn moves from the other's moveset? Like could a Vulpix get any Ice moves from Alolan Ninetails as Egg moves or an Alolan Vulpix get any Fire moves from Normal Ninetails as Egg moves?
I know there will probably be a bit of limits to what a Pokemon can get from their Alolan counterpart and vice-versa, like normal Raichu learning Psychic seems a bit more possible compared to Ninetails and Alolan Ninetails getting something from the other, but still it makes me wonder if Alolan counterparts will effect Egg Moves.

I mean, would normal Ninetales knowing Ice Beam really be that much weirder than the fact that Ludicolo can learn Flamethrower and Dugtrio can learn Slash?

 

[Burruni]

I mean, would normal Ninetales knowing Ice Beam really be that much weirder than the fact that Ludicolo can learn Flamethrower and Dugtrio can learn Slash?

End of conversation.

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

TIME FOR THEORIES! AUGUST 13TH SLOT IS RIDLEY OR ANDY! AUGUST 14TH IS LUFFY OR SOME OTHER THIRD PRTY!

I'm watching you McLeod. I know your way with slots. Especially with Falco. #SSF2

So hyped for tomorrow!

Considering Falco is not even next to Fox, August 13th could also be Lucas, or possibly even some character from already-repped Nintendo series. Hoping for K. Rool, but Ridley would be great as well.

Cloud seems the most realistic option for the third-party.

 

[Z25]

TIME FOR THEORIES! AUGUST 13TH SLOT IS RIDLEY OR ANDY! AUGUST 14TH IS LUFFY OR SOME OTHER THIRD PRTY!

I'm watching you McLeod. I know your way with slots. Especially with Falco. #SSF2

So hyped for tomorrow!

Logically it should:

Andy & Crash please. Mostly the former though. Isaac made it in so I have more hope for Andy in SSF2 then I do for an official Smash Bros game.

Andy before Samus as Ridley being first wouldn't make sense, but I'd love Ridley.

And Crash as the third part next to pacman makes sense.

But who know, I wonder what they will be.

 

[Chandeelure]

I mean, would normal Ninetales knowing Ice Beam really be that much weirder than the fact that Ludicolo can learn Flamethrower and Dugtrio can learn Slash?

Really? I don't think that's true.

 

[Deleted member]

Jojo screenshots taken out of context

Ludicolo can learn Flamethrower

Well, this is news to me
Damn, that makes Ludicolo have a really good coverage with both of its STAB + Ice Beam which I'm pretty sure it can learn

 

[Kirby Dragons]

Top 5 Most Wanted for SSF2:

5) Mewtwo
4) King Dedede
3) Ike
2) King K. Rool
1) Luffy

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

...And strike one off the 2016 bucket list -___-

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I keep forgetting EB Games is a thing that exsists

 

[Ura]

Logically it should:

Andy before Samus as Ridley being first wouldn't make sense, but I'd love Ridley.

And Crash as the third part next to pacman makes sense.

But who know, I wonder what they will be.

Look at Falco's placement though, it's plausible it could be Andy. Falco is far away from Fox. Maybe it's a Work in Progress thing and the characters are going to adjusted when released? Here's hoping.

 

[IceBreakerXY]

Really? I don't think that's true.

and you would be right

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

My Top 5 for SSF2:
1) King K. Rool
2) Bandana Dee
3) Ridley
4) King Dedede
5) Bowser Jr.