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[Chrono.]

>Pokémon fans constantly complain about newer Pokémon designs not being creative or charming
>Complain about Pika-clones
>Popplio is revealed
>"HE LOOKS STOOPID, GIVE US SOMETHING COOLER THAT APPEALS MORE TO OUR EDGY ANIME SENSIBILITIES"
>Pokémon that's literally a sheet with what looks like a three year old's drawing of Pikachu is revealed
>"This is a super creative design Game Freak, please do more like this!"
>mfw

Because different tastes. Or something.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

I can say that because of Pokémon Go, I'm interested in getting Gen 7.

You did your job well, Pokémon Company/ Nintendo.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Congratulations care bear, you're the first Alola mon I don't care about at all. What's the other o- OH MAH GERD SPOOPYCHU ME LIKEY

 

[ChikoLad]

Because different tastes. Or something.

I don't dislike Spoopachu, I just can't fathom the fact people consider it "creative" and "original", and then diss something like Popplio when it's literally one of the most creative Pokémon in years.

The concept behind Spoopachu is cool, but the design itself absolutely cannot be considered "creative" when it's literally supposed to look like a bad drawing of the franchise's main mascot of 20 years.

It's like if SEGA made "Sanic" an official Sonic character and people called it "creative and original".

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I don't dislike Spoopachu, I just can't fathom the fact people consider it "creative" and "original", and then diss something like Popplio when it's literally one of the most creative Pokémon in years.

The concept behind Spoopachu is cool, but the design itself absolutely cannot be considered "creative" when it's literally supposed to look like a bad drawing of the franchise's main mascot of 20 years.

It's like if SEGA made "Sanic" an official Sonic character and people called it "creative and original".

In my case, it's because Popplio DOES look cute, but it's got nothing that really makes it stand outm whereas Spoopychu's got a unique typing and art style

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Serebii Update: CoroCoro reveals two new Pokémon https://t.co/oV6DIIA7Ub pic.twitter.com/i9VbZVOs98

— Serebii.net (@SerebiiNet) July 12, 2016

What the **** is that thing on the right?

Anyway from Serebii's site:

I don't care what anyone says

I like that ghost Pikachu. Best Pikaclone ever

I hope it evolves into a fake raichu

The bear sucks though

 

[Substitution]

I don't dislike Spoopachu, I just can't fathom the fact people consider it "creative" and "original", and then diss something like Popplio when it's literally one of the most creative Pokémon in years.

The concept behind Spoopachu is cool, but the design itself absolutely cannot be considered "creative" when it's literally supposed to look like a bad drawing of the franchise's main mascot of 20 years.

It's like if SEGA made "Sanic" an official Sonic character and people called it "creative and original".

Because people can have different opinions and that's okay?
I mean I'm just saying it's just how people are; we like different things. Not everyone has to simply agree with something.

And that's okay.

 

[Chandeelure]

Everybody dislikes the bear

I will destroy all your pathetic teams with hugs when the game is out.

 

[Solfiner]

I love every design so far. Bruxish is the only one I'm kinda eh on.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Oh my god Spoopychu just wants to be loved. Not only will I hug it, but I'm also hoping it evolves by happiness

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I actually like Bruxish more than that bear

 

[ChikoLad]

In my case, it's because Popplio DOES look cute, but it's got nothing that really makes it stand outm whereas Spoopychu's got a unique typing and art style

It's art style isn't different though. It's just a sheet of paper with squiggles on it. And the typing isn't part of it's visual design, that's a gameplay element (which I already said is unique).

Because people can have different opinions and that's okay?
I mean I'm just saying it's just how people are; we like different things. Not everyone has to simply agree with something.

And that's okay.

Your passive aggressive "wit" doesn't work here because creativity isn't a subjective matter.

If the design of a character is literally based on an existing character and they aren't even trying to hide that fact, you cannot call that more creative than a character with a wholly unique design.

It's fine if you like the former more and want to "main" it more than the Pokémon with a more original design. There are plenty of justifiable reasons to want to do that and they come down to opinion.

But whether or not it's creative and original is not a matter of opinion and you don't call something creative just because you like it. If it worked liked that, I'd be calling the Chinese bootleg Smash RPG a "totally creative and original game that absolutely did not take any design cues from Nintendo's properties".

 

[Substitution]

Oh also before I forget:

Mimikkyu hates sunlight, preferring dark places. It is rumoured that the cloth covering its body is a strategy to avoid the sun. Don't try to remove the cloth it is said that those that do become afflicted with an illness. Mimikkyu's costume is based on Pikachu merch that was popular 20 years ago. It wants to be loved by people like Pikachu is. We'll bring more as it comes

This is the saddest thing. All it wants is our hearts...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It's art style isn't different though. It's just a sheet of paper with squiggles on it. And the typing isn't part of it's visual design, that's a gameplay element (which I already said is unique).



Your passive aggressive "wit" doesn't work here because creativity isn't a subjective matter.

If the design of a character is literally based on an existing character and they aren't even trying to hide that fact, you cannot call that more creative than a character with a wholly unique design.

It's fine if you like the former more and want to "main" it more than the Pokémon with a more original design. There are plenty of justifiable reasons to want to do that and they come down to opinion.

But whether or not it's creative and original is not a matter of opinion and you don't call something creative just because you like it. If it worked liked that, I'd be calling the Chinese bootleg Smash RPG a "totally creative and original game that absolutely did not take any design cues from Nintendo's properties".

That's not the kind of thing you'd ever expect from Sugimori. I agree that people have no right to say 'muh not creative' if they like Spoopychu, but I also think the lore of Spoopychu helps a bit. It wants to be loved and will make you sick if you try getting rid of it's sheet. Popplio has snot bubbles

 

[Solfiner]

Mimikkyu is hiding under a sheet that resembles a previous beloved Pokémon in order to be loved itself. Has that concept been done in Pokémon before? Nope. Voilá, it's creative for this franchise then. Popplio is also creative. Can everyone calm down a bit?

 

[Aetheri]

It's art style isn't different though. It's just a sheet of paper with squiggles on it. And the typing isn't part of it's visual design, that's a gameplay element (which I already said is unique).



Your passive aggressive "wit" doesn't work here because creativity isn't a subjective matter.

If the design of a character is literally based on an existing character and they aren't even trying to hide that fact, you cannot call that more creative than a character with a wholly unique design.

It's fine if you like the former more and want to "main" it more than the Pokémon with a more original design. There are plenty of justifiable reasons to want to do that and they come down to opinion.

But whether or not it's creative and original is not a matter of opinion and you don't call something creative just because you like it. If it worked liked that, I'd be calling the Chinese bootleg Smash RPG a "totally creative and original game that absolutely did not take any design cues from Nintendo's properties".

Appeal is a big factor remember...

Clown seals appeal less to some people than a sheet ghost pikachu imitation...

mimichu is more appealing to me personally...the unique typing also helps with its appeal even though it doesn't mean much from a design standpoint...

 

[WeirdChillFever]

That's not the kind of thing you'd ever expect from Sugimori. I agree that people have no right to say 'muh not creative' if they like Spoopychu, but I also think the lore of Spoopychu helps a bit. It wants to be loved and will make you sick if you try getting rid of it's sheet. Popplio has snot bubbles

I just wanna say that Snot Bubbles are OBJECTIVELY INTERESTING!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I just wanna say that Snot Bubbles are OBJECTIVELY INTERESTING!

Your favourite Zelda game must be Wind Waker

 

[Professor Lexicovermis]

Teddy Bear: Kinda... Boring? Not bad, just mundane.

Mimichu:

 

[ChikoLad]

That's not the kind of thing you'd ever expect from Sugimori. I agree that people have no right to say 'muh not creative' if they like Spoopychu, but I also think the lore of Spoopychu helps a bit. It wants to be loved and will make you sick if you try getting rid of it's sheet. Popplio has snot bubbles

Yeah, that's my point. The actual visual design/appearance of it isn't unique. The typing and backstory is, but that's a separate aspect of the character and doesn't change the fact that it's literally a Pika-clone by design.

People never defended previous Pika-clones by acknowledging their differences in abilities and backstory either, and just focused squarely on the design similarity. Just wanna point that out. It's pretty hypocritical no matter how you look at this.

Mimikkyu is hiding under a sheet that resembles a previous beloved Pokémon in order to be loved itself. Has that concept been done in Pokémon before? Nope. Voilá, it's creative for this franchise then. Popplio is also creative. Can everyone calm down a bit?

Are you capable of either reading points that aren't your own, or tonal interpretation?

Because you entirely missed what I was saying on both fronts, to the point where you're trying to literally argue my point with the exact same point I am making.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Your favourite Zelda game must be Wind Waker

I don't remember Snot Bubbles in Wind Waker.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I think it's funny, for a few months everyone was going mad with how little info we got on SM, now we're getting a biiiiiit too much imo

 

[Professor Lexicovermis]

Ooh! Just had an idea! Mimichu's sheet is designed after Pikachu so people will like it, right? What if it evolved to have a Lucario sheet? Go from one popular Poke to another!

 

[Chrono.]

I think it's funny, for a few months everyone was going mad with how little info we got on SM, now we're getting a biiiiiit too much imo

As long as it means this dex is bigger, I'm slightly okay with the Pokemon reveals.

They haven't really revealed anything else of great importance.

We don't know who'll be the antagonists yet, we haven't seen a single gym leader, no new mechanics have been shown yet (which is usually one of the first things they reveal in a new generation), aside from your friends and the professor we don't know who else will be a recurring NPC.

They've been keeping a lot more under the lid compared to XY.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Ooh! Just had an idea! Mimichu's sheet is designed after Pikachu so people will like it, right? What if it evolved to have a Lucario sheet? Go from one popular Poke to another!

And it's final evolution being Charizard?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I don't remember Snot Bubbles in Wind Waker.

Little kid in Outset Island has a HUUUUUGE snot bubble

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

It's been FOREVER since I posted in the Nintenzone.

Heck, Social 4.0 wasn't even a thing.

So yeah, I'm back from the dead...I guess...

 

[Substitution]

I think it's funny, for a few months everyone was going mad with how little info we got on SM, now we're getting a biiiiiit too much imo

Hey look, as long as there's more Spoopachus in the future, I'm pretty okay with that.

 

[ChikoLad]

no new mechanics have been shown yet .

Aren't the extra move slot and the four-way battles technically new mechanics?

They're most likely as far as they go, either way, because Pokémon.

 

[Deleted member]

Not a fan of the new Pokemon. Infact, that Pikachu sheet thing is my least favorite Pokemon of this generation so far.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Aren't the extra move slot and the four-way battles technically new mechanics?

They're most likely as far as they go, either way, because Pokémon.

Move Slot isn't officially confirmed or even leaked, so that doesn't count with reveals

 

[Chrono.]

Aren't the extra move slot and the four-way battles technically new mechanics?

They're most likely as far as they go, either way, because Pokémon.

The extra slot was more of a blink and miss it moment from treehouse's footage, they haven't explained what it means or if it means anything else at all.

Pokemon Fatal-4-Way does count though.

 

[ChikoLad]

The extra slot was more of a blink and miss it moment from treehouse's footage, they haven't explained what it means or if it means anything else at all.

Pokemon Fatal-4-Way does count though.

But we do know there is an extra move slot for sure as we have seen it on the interface.

Maybe it won't be a normal move slot and they will have some super-special-awesome move you can attach to it and have pre-requisites for using, but either way, I think it's going to change how you approach building your Pokémon's stats and abilities. It's like the difference between having three specials in the first Smash Bros in comparison to four in the others. Even though the added Side Special wasn't some special gimmicky mechanic and was just an extra move slot, it's still a big addition that changes how you play the different characters.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Finally started to play Pokemon Go and I've really got one thing to say.

Who's ****ing idea was it to have dead churches in my neighborhood as Pokemon Gyms?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Finally started to play Pokemon Go and I've really got one thing to say.

Who's ****ing idea was it to have dead churches in my neighborhood as Pokemon Gyms?

God's?

 

[ElectroLightning]

That PikaSheet is legit freaking me out.

 

[Deleted member]

ITT: People have different tastes. More at 7.

Oh also before I forget:



This is the saddest thing. All it wants is our hearts...

This is literally the most relatable Pokemon ever
Don't worry Mimikkyu, you'll be loved

But we do know there is an extra move slot for sure as we have seen it on the interface.

No, we don't know for sure.
The battle interface clearly only has space for 4 moves, unless you think they are hiding it, but then the status screen shouldn't have it

 

[ChikoLad]

ITT: People have different tastes. More at 7.

More like ITT: people don't understand the difference between subjective tastes and interests, and objective originality.

I would say that I need to remember that most users here are much younger than me, but stuff like this does the reminding for me.

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OK this is actually really silly Niantic.

http://cheezburger.com/8820376064/n...ge-pokemon-go-koffing-inside-holocaust-museum

 

[Coricus]

Finally started to play Pokemon Go and I've really got one thing to say.

Who's ****ing idea was it to have dead churches in my neighborhood as Pokemon Gyms?

The algorithm labels public gathering places as Gyms, even if the info is outdated.

One unlucky guy moved into a refurbished church and had his HOUSE marked as a Gym.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

OK this is actually really silly Niantic.

http://cheezburger.com/8820376064/n...ge-pokemon-go-koffing-inside-holocaust-museum

OH MY GOD!