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[Aurane]

Uh... no, they were pretty good for Gen 3 standards

Which were pretty ****ty standards to begin with but I'm not going there.

...only problem is how it didn't allow Johto evolutions to happen until you got the National Dex

They also interrupted the storyline near the end but nobody remembers that.

Look. RBGY were bad games. I'm not riding the genwunner boat- these games only have nostalgic value. At the time they were great games, but that was then. Remaking them was nessasary, but it was too early, and they did a terrible job at it. That's why I feel FRLG were terrible games in comparison to HGSS and ORAS.

Dude. FRLG was anything but a failure. Financially they sold really well, like any other main series game. They were quality games too.

I think another Kanto remake is a bad idea too, but I think your distaste for Gen I may be distorting your view a bit.

Selling well means nothing when you're talking about a remake. Especially of RBG. The games that held a place in many peoples' hearts. That's why they sold well.

My view on the remakes are not blurred, I can assure you. I played them both, and I didn't like them. That's called a personal opinion, something that's a forbiddance on the internet.

 

[Fluttershy]

while Nebby in the bag..

Pew! *gets out of the bag*

*checks miniors data* but minior doesn't have a gender

I honestly hope we'll see more Alolan forms of non fairy type Pokemon to convert to the serperior fairy type with Stars. It'll be interesting to see those who have regular forms in Sun moon to gain Alolan forms

 

[Opossum]

Which were pretty ****ty standards to begin with but I'm not going there.

They also interrupted the storyline near the end but nobody remembers that.

Look. RBGY were bad games. I'm not riding the genwunner boat- these games only have nostalgic value. At the time they were great games, but that was then. Remaking them was nessasary, but it was too early, and they did a terrible job at it. That's why I feel FRLG were terrible games in comparison to HGSS and ORAS.

Selling well means nothing when you're talking about a remake. Especially of RBG. The games that held a place in many peoples' hearts. That's why they sold well.

My view on the remakes are not blurred, I can assure you. I played them both, and I didn't like them. That's called a personal opinion, something that's a forbiddance on the internet.

Opinions are all well and good.

Calling FRLG a failure, however, blows right past opinion territory and goes into factual incorrectness. There are actual ways to determine if something is a failure. GameFreak wanted to remake Gen I. It sold well when they did. Ergo, it factually wasn't a failure.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

My problem with FR/LG, besides the outdated mechanics(as of now), is that it didn't feel all that special compared to the actual Gen 1 games. The whole national dex-evolution issue was bad enough, but a lot of the roaming Pokemon were just plain awful. I couldn't much enjoy them compared to the other remakes, which were overall better quality. Also, the biggest issue with Gen 1 was inventory space. That never got fixed till Gen IV.

And I do mean Yellow in that sense too. Just more fun for me.

I don't think we need any Gen 1 remakes right now. Gen 1 is doing fine without them, so it doesn't really do anything unique. Down the line, sure. But D/P/Pt need remakes more, as they have some serious issues that need fixing. Removing the HM mechanic would vastly improve them, as well as wayyyyyyyy better speed of the game itself. That said, please keep the search radar that was only in the regular Gen IV games. Stoutland Search is kind of annoying, as are the other versions. I like the fact that it gives you a strict idea of where it is, although that may only work with 2D games due to the grid-like movement.

FR/LG were hardly failures by any stretch of the imagination. Doesn't mean you should have to like those games, of course.

 

[Aurane]

Opinions are all well and good.

Calling FRLG a failure, however, blows right past opinion territory and goes into factual incorrectness. There are actual ways to determine if something is a failure. GameFreak wanted to remake Gen I. It sold well when they did. Ergo, it factually wasn't a failure.

There's no point in affirming it was an opinion because the fact it was an opinion would've been ignored anyways. Yes I should of said it was but we're already here, so that's the way it goes.

And yes. I believe that they- FRLG- are failures, but not in the way you're assuming. Financially- yes they worked. They passed the test, they get a gold star. But as remakes- as games being brought back from the past, I feel that they were shoddly handled and almost everything new in the games were not handled appropriately. The story cutting at the end for an unnessasary sidequest is still my biggest gripe because if you're making a remake- you don't **** with the game like that. Not in the storyline. HGSS didn't do that. ORAS didn't do that. That's part of why they were good remakes.

That's my view on those games. They were bad, and remaking RBGY now is also a bad idea.

 

[Aetheri]

Minor change to my list...and by change I mean I forgot an honourable mention...

10-Primarina
9-Decidueye
8-Lunala
7-Lycanroc Midday
6-Mimikyu
5-Toucannon
4-Litten
3-Alolan Ninetales
2-Kommo-o
1-Vikavolt

Honourable Mentions
Golisopod
Salazzle
Alolan Marowak
Ribombee
Passimian

How could I forget about King Julien?

 

[Deleted member]

I wonder if in stars were are going to get more alolan forms

Maybe the fighting alakazam and water arcanine ARE real, they just weren't added to this version.

I doubt Pokemon with Megas will get Alolan forms, because that'd complicate things a lot
I hope Oricorio gets new forms though, Capoeira Oricorio as Fighting/Flying pls

Which were pretty ****ty standards to begin with but I'm not going there.

They also interrupted the storyline near the end but nobody remembers that.

Look. RBGY were bad games. I'm not riding the genwunner boat- these games only have nostalgic value. At the time they were great games, but that was then. Remaking them was nessasary, but it was too early, and they did a terrible job at it. That's why I feel FRLG were terrible games in comparison to HGSS and ORAS.

Selling well means nothing when you're talking about a remake. Especially of RBG. The games that held a place in many peoples' hearts. That's why they sold well.

My view on the remakes are not blurred, I can assure you. I played them both, and I didn't like them. That's called a personal opinion, something that's a forbiddance on the internet.

They were not bad at the time, being outdated is another story, and while some mechanics ARE outdated, they're still very much playable and enjoyable

And I have no idea what you're talking about interrupting the storyline, it follows the exact same plot as the originals with the Sevii Islands being added

 

[Ura]

Ugh, I feel out of touch. I haven't posted in here in far too long.

For the record, I'm in the camp who thinks we'll probably see 6-8 new characters.

Unless there's DLC or annual-semi annual updates like I mentioned before, I honestly doubt we're getting that number of characters. The cynicist in me believes they'll call it a day with Inklings and a Gen 7 'Mon and maybe a vet or two. Funny how my position has changed from last year when I was in the belief we would get over 10 new characters. December of last year has made me cynical I guess.

 

[Opossum]

Unless there's DLC or annual-semi annual updates like I mentioned before, I honestly doubt we're getting that number of characters. The cynicist in me believes they'll call it a day with Inklings and a Gen 7 'Mon and maybe a vet or two. Funny how my position has changed from last year when I was in the belief we would get over 10 new characters. December of last year has made me cynical I guess.

I'm with you. I'm expecting five added characters at MOST, with three or four being more likely.
Though I wouldn't call mine pessimism since Inkling+Gen VII+Vet is a trio I'd actually want, thankfully.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I Oricorio formes

Yessssss.

Rock and Roll Rock/Flying
Heavy Metal Steel Flying
Capoeira Fighting/Flying
Disco Fairy/Flying

 

[FalKoopa]

The "one remake per handheld" is seriously one of my biggest pet peeves as far as annoying fan rules are concerned.

Lack of Gen III remakes in Gen V was the exception, not the rule. There are far more things pointing to a Sinnoh remake than not.

Hasn't that been the pattern so far though? I mean, unless we get two remakes in one handheld, it's probably better to assume one remake per handheld.

Besides, with two generations per handheld being the norm now, I think a typical console lifespan can only take that much (2 new generations and 1 remake) before getting saturated.

8 Pokémon games per handheld is probably too much.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

If you guys really want to solve this "One remake for handheld thing"

They could always just release it on the switch

 

[WeirdChillFever]

I love how the rumored Nintendo Switch ports stop me from buying games.

Me: "Hey, maybe I should buy Hyrule Warriors Legends?"
Inner Me: "Switch port with have all DLC"

Me: "I really need Smash WiiU, Smash 3DS is literally unplayable"
Inner Me: "Switch port with Inklings and Decidueye"

Me: "OMG RAVIO IN HYRULE WARRIORS"
Inner Me: "Switch port will have him included for free"

Basically I'm playing Splatoon 1: Connection is Unstable version till March

Also, I think we're not getting a gen VII character in the rumored 2-character Smash Switch, I feel they'll heavily base it on the uncompleted Smash4 characters that didn't make the cut and/or the ballot

 

[FalKoopa]

If you guys really want to solve this "One remake for handheld thing"

They could always just release it on the switch

But the Switch can also be a "handheld"

But yeah, let's just wait and see.

 

[Burruni]

I was wondering why you would be called waifu trash, and then I saw it...




...Minior.

Listen, man. Just because you didn't get your Normal/Ghost opossum, that doesn't make her any less of a best girl.

How could you say on to this face?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

But the Switch can also be a "handheld"View attachment 121938

But yeah, let's just wait and see.

Yeah, but it'd be a different handheld and therefore viable for a remake to come out on it, going by the standards of one remake per handheld.

 

[Ura]

I'm with you. I'm expecting five added characters at MOST, with three or four being more likely.
Though I wouldn't call mine pessimism since Inkling+Gen VII+Vet is a trio I'd actually want, thankfully.

I'm playing it safe this time round by not expecting more than 2 characters and the ones that are a given at this point. Back in November/December I went crazy with speculation after Cloud who I was hyped for and said hype came back to bite me in the ass a month later. It's a product of hype culture I guess.

I guess it's nice for Inkling fans and PKMN fans though so good on them.

 

[FalKoopa]

Yeah, but it'd be a different handheld and therefore viable for a remake to come out on it, going by the standards of one remake per handheld.

If Stars is indeed real, then yeah, a Gen IV remake on the Switch sounds quite reasonable.

The main appeal of a remake imo is the technological jump. So, going from the DS to full HD is pretty appealing.

 

[Burruni]

If Stars is indeed real, then yeah, a Gen IV remake on the Switch sounds quite reasonable.

The main appeal of a remake imo is the technological jump. So, going from the DS to full HD is pretty appealing.

So would seeing 3D Sinnoh on the S/M engine.

The fact that she's the only old character to return WITHOUT a redesign despite having a Key Stone gets to me.
Not that Cynthia doesn't have one of the best designs as is, but still.

 

[Ivander]

Spreading the word, if anyone here has a Shoryuken.com forums account that was made before December 2016, I implore you to fill out this Marvel vs Capcom Infinite DLC poll which will be later submitted to Capcom: http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/213364/srk-mvci-character-dlc-poll-ends-when-2016-ends#latest

Remember, these same polls that were done for UMvC3 allowed for X to be in MvC:I, so your vote matters!

The Shoryuken poll I added earlier was merely there for convenience and fun, alongside the Pixiv and Neogaf polls. It was the Capcom Unity polls that were brought to and even mentioned by Capcom, specifically these ones.

Spoiler: Capcom Unity Marvel Poll Round 1

1.Venom - 2034
2.Gambit - 1704
3.Ghost Rider - 1132
4.Cyclops - 1120
5.Carnage -992
6.Psylocke - 967
7.Ms Marvel 792
8.Dr Strange 758
9.Nightcrawler - 757
10.Green Goblin - 748
11.Iron Fist - 553
12.Juggernaut - 538
13. Daredevil - 500
14.Cable - 497
15.Rogue - 496
16. Silver Surfer - 459
17.Blade - 399
18.Black Panther(T'challa)-366
19.Emma Frost - 356
20.Thanos - 320
21.Dr Octopus -307
22.Squirrel Girl - 254
23.Moon Knight - 241
24.Elektra - 223
25.Black Cat -217
26.Howard the Duck - 215
27.Blackheart - 181
28.Iceman - 179
29.Hawkeye- 166
30.Apocalypse - 159
31.Songbird - 140
32.Omega Red - 129
33.Sentry - 128
34.Spider-Woman - 127
35.Nico Minoru - 126 (tie)
35.Bishop - 126 (tie)
37.Jubilee - 125
38.War Machine - 120
39.Luke Cage - 118
40.Beast - 112
41.Scarlet Witch -108
42.Mr Sinister - 108
43.Namor - 103
44.Nick Fury -101
45.Colossus - 93
46.Archangel - 90
47.Professor X - 79
48.Galacta - 76
49.Black Widow - 75
50.Ultron - 74

Spoiler: Capcom Unity Capcom Poll Round 1

1. Strider 2094
2. Mega Man X -2061
3. Phoenix Wright - 1734
4. Frank West - 1311
5. Gene - 1257
6. Classic Megaman - 950
7. Vergil - 919
8. Captain commando - 784
9. Bison - 704
10. Jin Saotome - 677
11. Jon Talbain - 617
12 .Bass.Exe - 606
13. Ken - 469
14. Leon Kennedy - 419
15. Cammy - 416
16. Megaman.EXE - 398
17. Juri - 382
18. Sigma - 379
19. Ryu (BoF) - 328
20. Batsu - 318
21. Falcon - 297
22. Guile - 291
23. B.B Hood - 285
24. Date Masamune - 280
25. Chuck Greene - 278
26. Jedah - 276
27. Hayato - 266
28 Red Arremer/Firebrand - 260
29. Samanosuke Akechi - 249
30. Demitri - 246
31. Nemesis - 241
32. Nero (DMC) - 212
33. Dr. wily - 202
34. Sakura - 194
35. Protoman - 185
36. Roll - 185
37. Tessa - 160
38. Akira (Rival school) -154
39. Regina - 145
40. Ibuki - 132
41. Guy - 131
42. Lady - 128
43. Donovan - 124
44. Lord Raptor - 123
45. Poison - 120
46. Dan Hibiki - 117
47. Alex - 111
48. Vanessa Z. Schneider (P.N. 03) - 106
49. Vile - 103
50. Sagat -102

Spoiler: Capcom Unity Marvel Poll Round 2

And here's the Marvel Data

Rank)Character Votes +Votes above next lowest (Percentage of people that voted for that character)

1)Venom 2243 +233 (30.94%)
2)Gambit 2010 +566 (27.72%)
3)Carnage 1444 +64 (19.92%)
4)Ghost Rider 1380 +150 (19.03%)
5)Ms. Marvel 1230 +5 (16.96%)
6)Psylocke 1225 +158 (16.90%)
7)Cyclops 1067 +11 (14.72%)
8)Dr. Strange 1056 +18 (14.56%)
9)Nightcrawler 1038 +143 (14.32%)
10)Squirrel Girl 895 +72 (12.34%)
11)Blade 823 +125 (11.35%)
12)Green Goblin 698 +41 (09.62%)
13)Silver Surfer 657 +30 (09.06%)
14)Rogue 627 +8 (08.65%)
15)Dr. Octopus 619 +27 (08.54%)
16)Juggernaut 592 +25 (08.17%)
17)Emma Frost 567 +11 (07.82%)
18)Iron Fist 556 +39 (07.67%)
19)Cable 517 +7 (07.13%)
20)Punisher 510 +13 (07.03%)
21)Daredevil 497 +0 (06.85%)
21)Black Panther 497 +87 (06.85%)
23)Moon Knight 410 +58 (05.65%)
24)Thanatos 352 +111 (04.85%)
25)Elektra 241 +0 (03.32%)
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21751 votes / 3 = 7250.33 (assuming everyone cast 3 votes and I counted right which .33 indicates that was not the case)
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Closest race was Daredevil and Black Panther who actually tied.

8 races were within 20 votes of each other

92.18% of you all don't know what a good marvel character is

Top 10 Marvel characters took ~62.5% of the votes.

Top 2 Marvel took ~19.6% of the votes (biggest gap being Gambit to Carnage with 566 votes seperating)

Top 2 Marvel had 31.4% of the top 10 Marvel votes

Spoiler: Capcom Unity Capcom Poll Round 2

And here's the capcom data from before to keep it all in one nice place.

Rank)Character Votes +Votes above next lowest (Percentage of people that voted for that character)

1)Mega Man X 2568 +542 (34.07%)
2)Phoenix Wright 2116 +251 (28.07%)
3)Strider 1865 +671 (24.74%)
4)Gene 1194 +82 (15.84%)
5)Frank West 1112 +2 (14.75%)
6)Vergil 1110 +38 (14.73%)
7)Juri 1062 +69 (14.09%)
8)B.B Hood 993 +26 (13.17%)
9)Classic Mega Man 967 +78 (12.83%)
10)Bass.EXE 889 +2 (11.79%)
11)Jon Talbain 887 +96 (11.77%)
12)Ryu (BoF) 791 +1 (10.49%)
13)Sigma 790 +12 (10.48%)
14)Captain Commando 778 +36 (10.32%)
15)Leon Kennedy 742 +61 (09.84%)
16)Cammy 681 +14 (09.03%)
17)M. Bison 667 +54 (08.85%)
18)Jin Saotome 613 +65 (08.13%)
19)Mega Man EXE 548 +52 (07.27%)
20)Date Masamune 496 +32 (06.58%)
21)Ken 464 +85 (06.16%)
22)Batsu 379 +46 (05.03%)
23)Guile 333 +12 (04.41%)
24)Chuck Greene 321 +74 (04.26%)
25)Edward Falcon 247 +0 (03.28%)
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22613 votes / 3 = 7537.66 people voted (assuming everyone cast 3 votes and I counted right which .66 indicates that was not the case)
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Sigma / Ryu had the closest race with Ryu beating Sigma by one vote

Bass.EXE / Jon Talbain and Frank West / Vergil also had close races with Bass.EXE and Frank West beating their opponents by two votes each

One out of every three people voting for Megaman X is a lot of people

Top 10 Capcom took ~64.9% of the votes

Top 3 Capcom took ~29% of the votes (biggest gap being Strider to Gene with 671 votes seperating)

Top 3 Capcom had 44.7% of the top 10 Capcom votes.

While the last 3 are just mostly there for fun, you might want to look into the Capcom Unity Polls, especially the Round 2 ones. While they weren't officially endorsed by Capcom, they were done by a Official Capcom Unity Mod and were even mentioned by Capcom. Especially for the Capcom characters, since Strider, Phoenix, Frank and Vergil were in Round 2, Firebrand and Nemesis were in Round 1 and Megaman X was Number 1 on the Round 2 Poll.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

I was wondering why you would be called waifu trash, and then I saw it...




...Minior.

How the hell can a rock be a waifu?

 

[Sir Gengar de Èctoplasma]

Top 10 Alola mons

Spoiler

1. Kommo-o
2. Decidueye
3. Mudsdale
4. Golisopod
5. Incineroar
6. Alolan Golem
7. Lunala
   
8. Salazzle
9. Solgaleo
   
10. Alolan Marowak

Did , ,, , , , and 's invitations get lost in the mail?

Nah, Snake got his invitation, but an evil company sent an army of zombies to keep him busy.

 

[Opossum]

How the hell can a rock be a waifu?

Anything can if you try hard enough.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

How the hell can a rock be a waifu?

Geodudes can be female, mang. Instead of rock-hard abs, they got a rock-hard *bricked*

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

How the hell can a rock be a waifu?

Same reason why you called Robotnik, K. Rool, and that poorly drawn Garfiled meme waifus.

 

[Ivander]

How the hell can a rock be a waifu?

Either way, some people are that desperate, regardless on what we believe.

 

[Depressed Gengar]

How the hell can a rock be a waifu?

Says the guy whose husbando is a lazy, fat, orange cat with no redeemable qualities.

 

[FalKoopa]

You know a question is important if it gets 5 replies within 10 minutes.

 

[Aurane]

How the hell can a rock be a waifu?

We have a fruit- a literal fruit- as SuMo's top Waifumon. Why not?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

We have a fruit- a literal fruit- as SuMo's top Waifumon. Why not?

Fruit are the sex organs of plants though

 

[MF Viewtiful]

How the hell can a rock be a waifu?

I don't know about a waifu, but they certainly can be pets. Maybe that's the next step.

Spoiler

 

[Aurane]

Fruit are the sex organs of plants though

So basically Tsareena is a giant plant ******.

Thanks saten.

 

[Erureido]

To this day, I wonder why Toucannon has that pissed off expression.

Because somebody stole his Fruit Loops, and we all know what happens when toucans get their Fruit Loops stolen.

 

[Ivander]

And now for something completely different.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60346068

Pixiv doesn't allow direct links, so somebody make it post-able for Image Now! Since the whole board needs to see such adorable irony.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

@PushDustIn Nice job on the new Game and Fact!
Small nitpick though, Carl Barks' name was misspelled as Carl Banks.

EDIT: Turns out you didn't work on the video, point still stands though

 

[FalKoopa]

And now for something completely different.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60346068

Pixiv doesn't allow direct links, so somebody make it post-able for Image Now! Since the whole board needs to see such adorable irony.

Here you go.

Had to upload it basically.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Decided to replay Shantae and the Pirate's Curse, especially as I didn't get the good ending last time

 

[Ivander]

View attachment 121944

Here you go.

Had to upload it basically.

In Gif form. Since the image is a gif. Must have Nebby and Lillie's adorable smile in it too.

 

[Fluttershy]

And now for something completely different.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60346068

Pixiv doesn't allow direct links, so somebody make it post-able for Image Now! Since the whole board needs to see such adorable irony.

Pew!
Finally now I don't have to get in the bag. Lillie is taking up too much room for me to fit in there

 

[---]

Not really interested in a remake of Kanto personally, I'd rather see a sequel set a decade(s?) after GSC.

I don't think we'll be getting Gen 4 remakes this Gen. Mostly a 65/35 type feeling.