Social NintenZone Social 4 - Bring It In, Guys!

[PsychoIncarnate]

I just had Uni at a Japanese restaurant

I always forget how good it is before tasting it again.

Absolute best Sushi

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Gwenpool, .

If this dumb ass character that doesn't even make sense as a concept gets in over Spider-Gwen. Outrage. Outrage, I tell ya.

 

[Knight Dude]

Spider-Man's roster selection will especially suck. In the MCU? He'll only have Vulture and Shocker to pull from. Unless there's some other of his villains present in Homecoming we don't know about yet.

This also cuts out new Marvel favorites from the books like Kamala Khan, Miles Morales, etc.

Would you be able to do people who haven't debuted yet but are planned? Like Carol Danvers? Do you include her?

It likely wouldn't rely strictly on the MCU. For example, Spider-Man would probably stay as an adult, since all of Peter Parker's Capcom fighting game appearences are based on 80's/90's Spider-Man. You can tell from the ways his eyes are drawn on his mask, very Mark Bagley-ish. And how he has fairly normal but muscular arms, but big thighs and feet. Hawkeye has first seen in 60's costume for example in MvC3, and that game also had been influenced by the movies(see Hawkeye and Rocket Raccoon, if I'm not mistaken.)

They would likely take the major players from the movies. Some supporting cast from the new cartoons/comics such as Ultimate Spider-Man. The show isn't great, but it has a ton of villains and supporting heroes to pull from. I'd rather have Classic Venom or Agent Venom, since he'd offer more than Miles, who'd end up being the Ken to Spider-Man's Ryu. And Marvel will keep whoring out Spider-Gwen for some reason, instead of Silk, who's kind of cool.

Even if they reigned it in for the MCU, this still can include the Netflix shows. Daredevil, Punisher(who is technically a Spider-Man character, given his debut in the comics.), Elektra, Luke Cage and Iron Fist are also going to be pretty relevant to the current Marvel era. Kingpin too, but he doesn't have any major weapons to set him apart from the rest, maybe his pimp cane.

Carol Danvers was ruined in Civil War II, so she can screw off for now.

Really, the only major loss here is the X-Men, Doom and Super Skrull.

 

[Coricus]

I want to start a discussion topic regarding a certain element of Sun and Moon's plot.

I would only answer these questions if you've beaten the game.

Spoiler: S/M Story spoilers

These questions relate to the main villains in Sun and Moon: Guzma and Lusamine

1) What is your opinion about Guzma and Lusamine? Do you like either of them or both? Do you hate either of them or both? Do you think they are well-written villains?

2) Where would you personally rank Guzma and Lusamine in your favorite main series Pokemon villains list?

3) Who do you think is the more insane and cruel villain: Ghetsis or Lusamine?

Spoiler: Story Spoilers

1) I don't think either showed up that much, but when they did show up their dialog was easily some of the best I've ever seen in a Pokemon game.

2) I don't really rank my villains but they're at least on the memorable end, moreso Lusamine for being utterly insane.

3) That's a. . .difficult question but not one I haven't thought of. I'd say that Ghetsis is the worse human being for how long he does terrible things, his lack of a Freudian excuse and indeed being someone else's, and for the fact that he never stops being evil, but Lusamine manages to be far more terrifying and monstrous when she's onscreen than Ghetsis despite having an excuse and getting over her problem eventually.

Gen 7 being able to easily show facial expressions and individual object models has been exploited to the fullest extent, and it really adds a lot of punch to just how crazy and horrifying Lusamine acts compared to what was shown onscreen in past generations. Gen 5 implied a lot of awful stuff and had some pretty good punch with N's room, but Gen 7 just went full blast every time Lusamine showed up. Creepy smiles, creepy dialog, creepy frozen Pokemon, attempting to murder a Pokemon onscreen, flat out saying they're fine with countless people getting killed, AND disowning their own children as Ghetsis also did but in a far creepier way and with an incredibly creepy smile the whole time. Good DAY. The fact that Sun's dialog is more on point than any other Pokemon game I've played really drives it in, too.

Heck, even Ghetsis trying to kill you came off as less creepy than half the stuff Lusamine did despite being worse.

So Ghetsis is a more horrible person but Lusamine has WAY more punch to her in presentation.

Mostly answered this to contemplate the third question.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

There's no way Carol's not getting in. She's Marvel's first foray into a female driven franchise in the movies. She's a guarantee.

Though yeah, as a fan of hers, Civil War II did to her what Civil War did to Tony Stark.

Cindy Moon/Silk would be nice, but Spider-Gwen is more likely, and I understand why. Gwen Stacy is a big ass deal in the Spider-Man lore, so having the superpowered version of her present makes a lot of sense. I really like both her and Silk though.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

MVC4 hype? Maybe?

Phoenix Wright please come back and be good.

Ammy too.

 

[Z25]

I want to start a discussion topic regarding a certain element of Sun and Moon's plot.

I would only answer these questions if you've beaten the game.

Spoiler: S/M Story spoilers

These questions relate to the main villains in Sun and Moon: Guzma and Lusamine

1) What is your opinion about Guzma and Lusamine? Do you like either of them or both? Do you hate either of them or both? Do you think they are well-written villains?

2) Where would you personally rank Guzma and Lusamine in your favorite main series Pokemon villains list?

3) Who do you think is the more insane and cruel villain: Ghetsis or Lusamine?

Spoiler

1) Both are pretty interesting characters. They aren't that developed physically in the story imo. But reading around and looking at other characters, you get a lot more background to them. Which I liked. The story still offered good insight, but the background stuff you find make it a lot better.

I like Guzma as a villain as he is a more realistic villain. He is an average person who was just wronged in life and couldn't accept his failure so it brought out a different side of him. He's not truly evil, just misguided. With his past it makes sense and I like his personality that results from it.

Lusamine is also interesting. Again she isn't truly evil. She comes across as a psychopath and that's partially true, but she was always that way. Her research turned her this way. Learning of the UBS and the potential lose of her husband to the wormholes, drove her mad over them. Dedicating herself to find them and capture what she thought was a perfect creature. This separated her from her family and tainted her work within Aether. The final nail to make her that way was from her children betraying her, even if it was the right thing to do.

At this point she was corrupted mostly by Nihilago. Which the game implies she encountered before. My guess is that's the first UB she sees and maybe it releases poisons to corrupt her mind that stay there undetected overtime. By the climax of the story she has fully lost it and becomes a vessel.

However in the end she was saved and as we can see she is beginning to go back to her normal self. I actually really liked how they showed this with her turning to Lillie and going "When did you become so beautiful"?

That was a pretty strong testament of her character imo, and I really liked how she was portrayed.

So both were really unique characters and I hope they can do more like this in future.

2) I'll be honest, I do care for the villains to much. Giovanni's overated but fine imo, Archer hardly exists, I like Archie and Maxie in ORAS, they weren't as good originally.

Cyrus was alright, Ghetius is different but not someone I fully like as a character. N and Corless if they count were pretty cool. Lysandre was terrible in the games, but the anime made him better.

Guzma became my favorite, so he is number one. Lusamine probably ranks at 2 or 3. Depending on how much you count N or Ghetius. I won't count N, so I'll put Lusamine at 2, with Archie and Maxie tied for 4th and Corless in 3rd, if he counts.

3) Probably Ghetius. Lusamine had 2- 7 years maybe of evilness. I don't think she was physically abusive. I think she was controlling, and a more psychological person when dealing with Gladion and Lillie. It's why I found that comic yesterday alright. I don't see that being a reasonable way she would act. Also Gladion probably was at least somewhat edgy when younger to, even if he did care, he was portrayed as to good imo in that comic.

Back to the question though. I think Lusamine was all out villain or cruel. We have more to suggest that Ghetius was a purely evil person. So I think he ranks as more cruel. He feels like a cold blooded killer. Lusamine may have tried to kill you, but she wasn't aiming to murder everyone. Just those that intervened. As shown when she interacts with Lillie the first time, she says:

"Maybe if you'd been a better daughter, I'd listen to you." She clearly is a psychological based person, not straight up murderous, but using her words and actions to make people fall to her power. Ghetius is about brute force and doing anything to achieve his goal. Granted she's still down for murder, but Ghetius's years and past show a lot of pretty cruel and evil things as well.

Longer than expected, but it was nice to give my thoughts. This also made me wonder, what will the Sun and Moon manga be like? That should be pretty interesting.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

If none of the iconic RE characters get in, and we get whoever the hell is the lead of RE7, I also riot.

Nobody has time for whatever RE7 is trying to be invading into a game that's about iconic all-stars Capcom. Don't even try it.

 

[Opossum]

There's no way Carol's not getting in. She's Marvel's first foray into a female driven franchise in the movies. She's a guarantee.

Though yeah, as a fan of hers, Civil War II did to her what Civil War did to Tony Stark.

Cindy Moon/Silk would be nice, but Spider-Gwen is more likely, and I understand why. Gwen Stacy is a big *** deal in the Spider-Man lore, so having the superpowered version of her present makes a lot of sense. I really like both her and Silk though.

With each issue of Civil War II I keep hoping they somehow salvage Carol's character. And each issue she digs further down.

I mean, I'm not even that big of a fan of Captain Marvel and that's depressing to watch.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Spoiler

Please Capcom, give Power Stone a damn chance in this next game.

I don't care if it's Rouge or Edward Fokker Falcon. Both characters are fine either way.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

With each issue of Civil War II I keep hoping they somehow salvage Carol's character. And each issue she digs further down.

I mean, I'm not even that big of a fan of Captain Marvel and that's depressing to watch.

It's kind of sad when Marvel has spent the last what 10 plus years trying to make her into their answer to Wonder Woman and the main female Avenger? And right before their movie franchise of her launching they pull her into a downward spiral of unlikability. It's like why is she like this? Two of the key victims who lost their life and were hurt by her actions were her boyfriend, War Machine, and one of her best friends, Shulkie.

And she still hasn't come to her senses. Even Tony when Steve "died" realized that perhaps he had pushed his actions too far in the original event.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

So...

To kind of play off the current topic...

To those of you that play fighting games, any kind of fighting games...

What are your three favorite things about them?

What are your three favorite fighting games?

What are your three least favorite things about them?

 

[Knight Dude]

If this dumb *** character that doesn't even make sense as a concept gets in over Spider-Gwen. Outrage. Outrage, I tell ya.

Screw Spider-Gwen. She's over-hyped.
Here's the pecking order.

Peter Parker Spider-Man >>>> Spider-Man 2099 > Kaine > Spider-Girl = Ben Riley >> Spider-Ham > Noir > Miles > Silk > the Rest >>>>>>> Spider-Gwen.

There's no way Carol's not getting in. She's Marvel's first foray into a female driven franchise in the movies. She's a guarantee.

Though yeah, as a fan of hers, Civil War II did to her what Civil War did to Tony Stark.

Cindy Moon/Silk would be nice, but Spider-Gwen is more likely, and I understand why. Gwen Stacy is a big *** deal in the Spider-Man lore, so having the superpowered version of her present makes a lot of sense. I really like both her and Silk though.

Too bad they made her a real *****-douche now. But that seems to be the case with Civil War stories. Honestly, I wish the comics would stop making the heroes fight each other and handle some villains already. I know she'd be a shoo-in, but I'm kind of annoyed looking at her now. I miss the black and yellow costume.

Gwen getting super powers is a lame idea to me. Same when someone thought that Thunderbolt Ross needed to be a Hulk.

 

[Burruni]

MVC4 hype? Maybe?

Phoenix Wright please come back and be good.

Ammy too.

Implying he wasn't a hero in MvC3
Awkward, but amazing.

 

[Opossum]

It's kind of sad when Marvel has spent the last what 10 plus years trying to make her into their answer to Wonder Woman and the main female Avenger? And right before their movie franchise of her launching they pull her into a downward spiral of unlikability. It's like why is she like this? Two of the key victims who lost their life and were hurt by her actions were her boyfriend, War Machine, and one of her best friends, Shulkie.

And she still hasn't come to her senses. Even Tony when Steve "died" realized that perhaps he had pushed his actions too far in the original event.

Not even the tie ins make her likeable.

Like, seriously. The Ms. Marvel tie ins for CWII, while a low point for Wilson's run IMO, basically show her as being perfectly fine with the Cadets becoming borderline Hitler Youths.

And apparently her own book made her unlikeable recently. Like damn. Now is the WORST time for this type of character assassination. As much as it's a terrible type of twist usually, I'm really hoping it turns out this was a Skrull or something. Like damn.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Implying he wasn't a hero in MvC3

I meant high on the tier list.

I know he's amazing.

He's my main.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Gwen getting superpowers isn't that bad. It's take a tragic character and gives her a new life without having to resort to what Marvel has wanted to try for years by undoing Gwen Prime's death.

When it comes to the female Spiders she's not my favorite, but she's definitely a worthy entry into Marvel's heroes and keeps them from their goal of undoing one of Spider-Man's greatest events that have effected him.

It's her blowing up that made her become a bit over-hyped. When they tried to make everyone have a Gwen alternate somehow? That was what was ridiculous. Gwenpool is the icing on that ridiculous case to me.

 

[Aetheri]

I want to start a discussion topic regarding a certain element of Sun and Moon's plot.

I would only answer these questions if you've beaten the game.

Spoiler: S/M Story spoilers

These questions relate to the main villains in Sun and Moon: Guzma and Lusamine

1) What is your opinion about Guzma and Lusamine? Do you like either of them or both? Do you hate either of them or both? Do you think they are well-written villains?

2) Where would you personally rank Guzma and Lusamine in your favorite main series Pokemon villains list?

3) Who do you think is the more insane and cruel villain: Ghetsis or Lusamine?

Spoiler

1) Guzma's pretty cool even though he himself wasn't quite as big of a threat as other past villains...awesome theme, pretty cool team being a pure Bug specialist, with Golisopod being his ace...as well as some decent back story with his rejection as a trial captain and his relationship with his parents (specifically his father) in the past that pushed him to where he's at today

Lusamine, first off was refreshing being the first main female villain...she was definitely a well-written character as there's a lot of depth just with her relationship with her children, especially Lillie...as well as her obsession with the Ultra Beasts lead her to some extreme measures such as cruel experiments on Null and Cosmog, and straight up disowning her own children for interfering with her plans to get closer to the Ultra Beasts...
Her team, as random as they may seem was actually quite fitting for her character...

2) As of now Cyrus still stands as my favourite Villain in the series, Guzma and Lusamine would definitely rank highly though as they are both very memorable in their own way, even though they haven't tried to destroy the universe or something like that...

3) Lusamine's insanity and cruelty was due to the neurotoxins from Nihilego that manipulated her....while her actions were perhaps very sadistic they weren't really "her"...though if we're taking things at face value Lusamine clearly has some serious issues...

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Spoiler

Please Capcom, give Power Stone a damn chance in this next game.

I don't care if it's Rouge or Edward Fokker Falcon. Both characters are fine either way.

Between these two characters (Lord have mercy on any Power Stone love for this next game), I can only see Falcon happening.

The first reason is that he at least had a card cameo in the last game compared to Rouge (even if she was considered for Tatsunoko vs Capcom's roster). The second reason is that her Power Change form is too ****ing suggestive for a 3D T rated game these days. Sure there's Felicia, but at least she isn't near topless with gold dangling nipple breastplates (Seriously, just look at it).

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Not even the tie ins make her likeable.

Like, seriously. The Ms. Marvel tie ins for CWII, while a low point for Wilson's run IMO, basically show her as being perfectly fine with the Cadets becoming borderline Hitler Youths.

And apparently her own book made her unlikeable recently. Like damn. Now is the WORST time for this type of character assassination. As much as it's a terrible type of twist usually, I'm really hoping it turns out this was a Skrull or something. Like damn.

If anything good came out of Carol being such a ******* it was that Kamala rose above her icon and idol falling into a downward spiral and stood up for her beliefs even more. God bless Kamala Khan.

 

[Lord Dio]

There's no way Carol's not getting in. She's Marvel's first foray into a female driven franchise in the movies. She's a guarantee.

Though yeah, as a fan of hers, Civil War II did to her what Civil War did to Tony Stark.

Cindy Moon/Silk would be nice, but Spider-Gwen is more likely, and I understand why. Gwen Stacy is a big *** deal in the Spider-Man lore, so having the superpowered version of her present makes a lot of sense. I really like both her and Silk though.

1. I put the blame for Carol's decline in attitude in popularity on Bendis. I love carol and her comics, but Bendis ruins her so much.
2. Having read both Spider-Gwen and Silk's comics.......I can't understand the hate for Gwen. Both titles were (I say were because I haven't read a comic in over a year, but I do keep up on things) very well done, my only criticism was the art in Spider-Gwen. They established their characters well, had good plot lines, events with other characters.....I just don't see where the hate comes from.

That said....Carol for MvC4. No matter what Bendis does to her in the comics.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Between these two characters (Lord have mercy on any Power Stone love for this next game), I can only see Falcon happening.

The first reason is that he at least had a card cameo in the last game compared to Rouge (even if she was considered for Tatsunoko vs Capcom's roster). The second reason is that her Power Change form is too ****ing suggestive for a 3D T rated game these days. Sure there's Felicia, but at least she isn't near topless with gold dangling nipple breastplates (Seriously, just look at it).

If they can get away with Felicia, then I don't see what's stopping then from having Rouge with her Power Change form in Marvel vs Capcom 4.

And way I remind you that characters like Ivy and Angol Fear exists in Soul Calibur with similar suggestive attire? Yet the series still got away with a T rating just like the second Power Stone game on the Dreamcast that had Rouge's new form.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I think the hate for Spider-Gwen comes from the fact that she blew up and at a time where one of Hollywood's best and most popular rising starlets was playing her prime counterpart in the movie franchise (Not to mention Emma Stone Gwen is one of the few solids in both Garfield Spider-Man movies), and Marvel saw the opportunity and just forced so much Gwen down people's throats.

There were covers where she was EVERY hero, there was the unnecessary rise of Gwenpool who everyone treated as a joke and somehow she got her own solo book, it was just too much of one character at one time.

It's still better than them having undone her prime counterparts death like they wanted to do in Clone Saga and in One More Day as well.

I'll always laugh that half of the writing team on Spider-Man almost threatened to jump ship when Marvel wanted Gwen to be alive like Harry Osborn was because of the marriage being undone. So many of them were like ''You do that and I'm not putting my name on the book." LOL.

 

[Knight Dude]

So...

To kind of play off the current topic...

To those of you that play fighting games, any kind of fighting games...

What are your three favorite things about them?

What are your three favorite fighting games?

What are your three least favorite things about them?

1) A variety of usually cool looking characters in a single game.
2) Being able to have a large pool of moves at my character's disposal.
3) The crazy amount of ways the game can be played(both single and multiplayer)

These reasons are why I like platformers a lot too. Mega Man/Mega Man X in particular. You get cool weapons, great mobility and cool looking robot dudes fighting other slightly less cool looking robot dudes. Not to mention different playstyles between Mega Man(6 and 7) and MMX's armors and Protoman/Zero/Axl/Bass. Same can be said for Donkey Kong Country and Kirby.

Favorite fighting games: Tekken 5, Soul Calibur 2 and Smash 4/MvC1.
Honorable mention to DBZ Budokai 3, more casual than the others, but it's pretty fun.

Least favorite things

1)I'm not too big on Charge characters.

2)The fact that they aren't more popular, which might be due to the learning curb. But I'm not good at them anyway, so I don't get why that stops so many.

3)When cool characters are replaced with lamer ones. Look no further than Soul Calibur 5.

 

[Pazzo.]

All I literally need from MVC4 is...

-Doctor Strange
-Pheonix Wright
-(Not a deal breaker) Mega Man

Thank you for your time.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Yeah, learning curve definitely harms fighting games, and then when someone comes along and tries to make an easier fighting game? The die hards riot. I don't see anything wrong with fighting games having easier modes for the more casual players.

Even Smash which is designed to be an easier fighting game has had that stigma and it's just silly. I feel as long as your skill sets are divided and you don't have someone playing on easy mode that gives you easier access to moves and stuff going up against someone who has taken the time to learn every button press to get the same combo or super move? Let people have easier fun and the fighting game will thrive more in sales and popularity.

 

[Lord Dio]

everyone treated as a joke and somehow she got her own solo book

Where have I seen this before? Hmmmmm......
Ahem, Squirrel Girl, ahem.

Oh, and I honestly don't think Carol's ever getting back into the Ms Marvel costume, as much as I like it. Marvel has to bring back Mar-Vell and either kill off Kamala (which ain't happening), or force her into a new outfit.
I also don't see Carol in her role as Ms Marvel as being Marvel's WW. That happened only after becoming Captain Marvel. Imo, she was more like Supergirl, considering one of those two would give government agents sass during the skrull invasion, and one wouldn't....not to mention more similar powers.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

If they can get away with Felicia, then I don't see what's stopping then from having Rouge with her Power Change form in Marvel vs Capcom 4.

And way I remind you that characters like Ivy and Angol Fear exists in Soul Calibur with similar suggestive attire? Yet the series still got away with a T rating just like the second Power Stone game on the Dreamcast that had Rouge's new form.

Except the ESRB is much more stricter when it comes to games today compared to the past. Ivy's gotten more modest with her appearance in Soul Calibur V, same for Tira. Can't say much for Angol Fear when she was meant to be a guest character. You never really say her again until her minor fight with Mois (her sister) in Sgt Frog.

There's just no way I see Capcom adding Rouge unless they either not involve that form or dare I say it "censor" her design for the game. Sure it goes against her profession as a belly dancing gypsy with the powers of a djinn, but there's no way the golden nipple extensions would fly in a Marvel vs Capcom game. That's why Edward Falcon is likelier between the two.

 

[Opossum]

If anything good came out of Carol being such a ******* it was that Kamala rose above her icon and idol falling into a downward spiral and stood up for her believes even more. God bless Kamala Khan.

Absolutely.

Spoiler

Still heart wrenching what happened to Bruno though.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Squirrel Girl has always been a joke character and for the most part always beloved and taken seriously as a joke character. She's more akin to Howard the Duck or Deadpool than Gwenpool.

None of that can be said for Gwenpool. No one really had a desire for Gwenpool, nor more of her. Where as like Deadpool, people ASKED for more of Squirrel Girl and Howard the Duck.

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

Except the ESRB is much more stricter when it comes to games today compared to the past. Ivy's gotten more modest with her appearance in Soul Calibur V, same for Tira. Can't say much for Angol Fear when she was meant to be a guest character. You never really say her again until her minor fight with Mois (her sister) in Sgt Frog.

There's just no way I see Capcom adding Rouge unless they either not involve that form or dare I say it "censor" her design for the game. Sure it goes against her profession as a belly dancing gypsy with the powers of a djinn, but there's no way the golden nipple extensions would fly in a Marvel vs Capcom game. That's why Edward Falcon is likelier between the two.

Again, there's no real difference between Power Change Rouge and Felicia. Both ladies bare the same amount, except the former at least has pants (albeit transparent to match a real Gypsy dancer). A couple golden strategically placed accessories won't be enough to threaten an M rating on Marvel vs Capcom 4...

And please no censorship ideas. The last thing we need are people boycotting Marvel vs Capcom 4 because of that.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

My thoughts on MvC4;

As long as Wolverine, a MegaMan-Series character, Ryu, and Akuma are there, the roster can be anything else and I'll be good. I find those the most basic of requirements. Zangief would be great too, but he's no dealbreaker for me. I may be willing to change my mind if it lacks a MegaMan-Series character and Akuma. But the other 2? Nope. You just can't leave off the faces of the crossover. It's like having Smash Bros. without Mario and Pikachu.

 

[Knight Dude]

Yeah, learning curve definitely harms fighting games, and then when someone comes along and tries to make an easier fighting game? The die hards riot. I don't see anything wrong with fighting games having easier modes for the more casual players.

Even Smash which is designed to be an easier fighting game has had that stigma and it's just silly. I feel as long as your skill sets are divided and you don't have someone playing on easy mode that gives you easier access to moves and stuff going up against someone who has taken the time to learn every button press to get the same combo or super move? Let people have easier fun and the fighting game will thrive more in sales and popularity.

It's not the learning curve in and of itself that I mind, but rather the fact that it pulls others away from the games. Which is weird, considering these days how big Dark Souls has gotten, and those games have a learning curve.

Where have I seen this before? Hmmmmm......
Ahem, Squirrel Girl, ahem.

Oh, and I honestly don't think Carol's ever getting back into the Ms Marvel costume, as much as I like it. Marvel has to bring back Mar-Vell and either kill off Kamala (which ain't happening), or force her into a new outfit.
I also don't see Carol in her role as Ms Marvel as being Marvel's WW. That happened only after becoming Captain Marvel. Imo, she was more like Supergirl, considering one of those two would give government agents sass during the skrull invasion, and one wouldn't....not to mention more similar powers.

To be honest, I mostly miss the Domino mask and long hair. her new hair doesn't look right, makes it a little too different. Coupled with the change in personality, and you've got a very different character altogether.

Squirrel Girl's art is garbage though. I'm sorry, but it's just BAD.

Maybe I'm just being an old man and hating too many of Marvel's new stuff, but I don't have many of their comics to get into right now.

 

[Lord Dio]

Squirrel Girl has always been a joke character and for the most part always beloved and taken seriously as a joke character. She's more akin to Howard the Duck or Deadpool than Gwenpool.

None of that can be said for Gwenpool. No one really had a desire for Gwenpool, nor more of her. Where as like Deadpool, people ASKED for more of Squirrel Girl and Howard the Duck.

She's a joke character in that she's Marvel's Saitama, but the comedy is forced, whereas it comes naturally to characters like deadpool and howard. It's one of the reasons gwenpool isn't a good character, it's taking off of something much better and using it to make bad, forced comedy.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I prefer Carol as Captain Marvel and Kamala as Ms. Marvel personally.

It's just the recent personality change on Carol that sucks, it's something they'll undo by the time he movie comes out though I'm sure. How? Who knows, but they'll want her personality to match as much as the movie's as possible I'm sure.

Look at how Doc Ock's run of being in Peter's body ended around the time of ASM2 coming out in theaters for example.

 

[Deleted member]

So...

To kind of play off the current topic...

To those of you that play fighting games, any kind of fighting games...

What are your three favorite things about them?

The diverse character rosters (especially in crossovers, where I can pick my favorite character(s)), the various play styles, and being able to play local multiplayer with friends and family.

What are your three favorite fighting games?

Smash 4, Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown, Soul Calibur II

It was hard narrowing it down to only three.

What are your three least favorite things about them?

I can only think of two right now: Overly complicated button commands (I'm looking at you, SNK pretzel motions), and getting beaten to death by ridiculously overpowered characters.

Shulkie

I feel so obligated to joke about a certain Monado Boy.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Again, there's no real difference between Power Change Rouge and Felicia. Both ladies bare the same amount, except the former at least has pants (albeit transparent to match a real Gypsy dancer). A couple golden strategically placed accessories won't be enough to threaten an M rating on Marvel vs Capcom 4...

And please no censorship ideas. The last thing we need are people boycotting Marvel vs Capcom 4 because of that.

Tell that to the people who boycotted Street Fighter V for the same reason. You know what reason.

And since this isn't going nowhere since you are bent on defending Rouge, I will say this. At least Edward Falcon is the face of Power Stone as a whole and got heavily requested in an old Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 DLC poll. Shows who PS fans care about the most in terms of Power Stone reps.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Marvel is losing me as a Comics Fan myself. I don't know the past year or so has just been....something else.

For every good idea they have, they have about 80 that are just....wow.

I also feel like for some of the properties they're beginning to let the movies and their various rights issues affect their decision making in those properties.

I mean the X-Men books right now? They're just.....a mess. A fricking disaster of a mess.

 

[Ivander]

MvC4 talk? Where's my Soul Calibur 6?......actually, I'll take that back. Somehow Namco will screw up that one too if they don't get their heads together, especially if they pull the same 4-month earlier bull like they did with 5.

What are your three favorite fighting games?

Smash 4, Soul Calibur II and Dissidia Final Fantasy, although Tatsunoko vs Capcom gets an honorable mention.

 

[Knight Dude]

She's a joke character in that she's Marvel's Saitama, but the comedy is forced, whereas it comes naturally to characters like deadpool and howard. It's one of the reasons gwenpool isn't a good character, it's taking off of something much better and using it to make bad, forced comedy.

Squirrel Girl only works in small doses I feel. Too much of that character and you lose the impact, given that's she a gag.

Saitama's interesting though. While he's also unstoppable, his dilemma comes from that. He actually acknowledges his strength and hates it because of how it makes life boring for him. Which is good satire in that he's most shonen heroes that try to be the best, but you never see what it's like to live at the top. And he's still underappreciated compared to all the selfish ******** that do get attention.

I prefer Carol as Captain Marvel and Kamala as Ms. Marvel personally.

It's just the recent personality change on Carol that sucks, it's something they'll undo by the time he movie comes out though I'm sure. How? Who knows, but they'll want her personality to match as much as the movie's as possible I'm sure.

Look at how Doc Ock's run of being in Peter's body ended around the time of ASM2 coming out in theaters for example.

Having his body taken over was really dumb. And clearly one of those stories that would normally be on a gimmicky Silver Age comic cover.