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Social NintenZone Social 4 - Bring It In, Guys!

When, if ever, do you plan on buying the Switch?

  • At launch

    Votes: 40 36.0%
  • Late spring/summer

    Votes: 25 22.5%
  • During the fall/holidays

    Votes: 17 15.3%
  • Sometime after 2017

    Votes: 7 6.3%
  • Not until [insert game here] is released

    Votes: 20 18.0%
  • I'm not getting that bucket of turds!!

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Total voters
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Aetheri

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Reset theory? What the hell is that
In a nutshell it's a very long and convoluted theory suggesting that the Pokemon universe will reach a final climax and reset itself...giving an opening for a possible reboot for future games...

Lockstin has close to three hours of videos explaining a lot of this so if you want to grab some popcorn you're free to give them a watch...

I find them interesting because of how much he delves into Pokemon lore and how it parallels with various mythologies and alchemy in the real world...I don't particularly think Pokemon will reboot itself, at least not on an extreme level simply because it makes too much money...
 
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And nothing of value is missed, except my inbox being ***ed for some crazy reason (I already know who it is).

Back to more Pokémon Go (Inb4 "but Pokemanz Go is dead."),
 
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Well I'll be! Awhile back the Dolphin emulator would always crashed on my computer before I can get any progress in games so I gave up. Today, after a long hiatus, I decided to try again without configuring anything. They are playing without crashing now (maybe a Windows update is the reason).

Now I can finally play Chibi-Robo!
Awesome! It's cool that it started to work.

And yeah, Windows updates tend to screw things up, once it updated and I was stuck with a completely blank screen as a reault.
 

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In a nutshell it's a very long and convoluted theory suggesting that the Pokemon universe will reach a final climax and reset itself...giving an opening for a possible reboot for future games...

Lockstin has close to three hours of videos explaining a lot of this so if you want to grab some popcorn you're free to give them a watch...

I find them interesting because of how much he delves into Pokemon lore and how it parallels with various mythologies and alchemy in the real world...I don't particularly think Pokemon will reboot itself, at least not on an extreme level simply because it makes too much money...
If they reboot I hope they still keep the old pokemon.
 

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It wouldn't have been held back. It would have been developed afterwards and separately.
They're still refusing to bring it to the other versions for no good reason, therefore they're holding it back.

I miss the days when DLC was a thing and you didn't have to buy the same game again just for new characters...
 

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I may have mentioned it before, but I am going to take a leave of absence from Smashboards until everything has calmed down, not just politically, but from the Spoilers and when I finally get Pokémon Moon. Probably by December. So I take my leave.
 

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They're still refusing to bring it to the other versions for no good reason, therefore they're holding it back.

I miss the days when DLC was a thing and you didn't have to buy the same game again just for new characters...
It's a good reason. They have a new console and thus want people to buy it and the games for it instead of sticking with their old consoles and not getting money which is in itself the most important part of a company is the making of money.

You also don't have to buy the game again nobody is holding you down and forcing you to buy it.
 
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Just a heads up for all those that want to avoid Sun and Moon story spoilers, someone on Youtube has uploaded pretty much uploaded all the scenes/major moments from the late game in the story, and that person didn't put any spoiler warnings on the tags or the thumbnail of the videos, so you might want to be wary when you go on Youtube because they could appear in your Suggestions Feed.

Now for those who are eager to follow the leaks and want to know what the Youtube page is...

You've been warned
Here's the guy's channel featuring videos of much of the later events in the story:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCprVLzNWy-jolRDPJEdU7LQ/videos
 
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They're still refusing to bring it to the other versions for no good reason, therefore they're holding it back.

I miss the days when DLC was a thing and you didn't have to buy the same game again just for new characters...
Well the Wii U sold like crud and a lot of people would move to the new system anyway, so there's one reason.

If the Ice Climbers somehow happened that would be another.

And how does the Street Fighter series figure into this?
 
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If they reboot I hope they still keep the old pokemon.
If they do, I doubt they will remove any of the old pokemon...It's possible it'll simply be another story arc possibly with some changes to the gameplay...
 
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It's a good reason. They have a new console and thus want people to buy it and the games for it instead of sticking with their old consoles and not getting money which is in itself the most important part of a company is the making of money.
Yeah, re-releasing a Wii U game that's been out for a couple of years is totally going to bring in the money. Never mind all those Wii U owners that'll feel ripped off: the money is more important. Maybe they could learn a thing from Capcom: just re-release their games over and over again and the drones will keep buying them.
 
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I may have mentioned it before, but I am going to take a leave of absence from Smashboards until everything has calmed down, not just politically, but from the Spoilers and when I finally get Pokémon Moon. Probably by December. So I take my leave.
See you later! Have fun and come back soon. We'll miss you.:)
 

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It wouldn't have been held back. It would have been developed afterwards and separately.
The only thing stopping a new character from being ported back is either sheer laziness or greed.

Hell, I'd only give it a month at most before the characters would be backported entirely, should they exist of course.

If Nintendo doesn't want to bring new content to the older consoles, they are not obligated to do so. Demanding that they do, crying that it's foul, that you deserve to have that content means you're being entitled.


That implies they're forcing me anyways. I am in no way forced to buy the game again, I simply want to or not want to. I could very easily say, "X price is not worth it" and walk away.
Nintendo isn't forcing me or anyone to buy any of their products.

Anyways, I see this isn't going anywhere, so I'll just stop here.
No, but that doesn't mean people can't call Nintendo out on it.

Oh, people will back out. As soon as you give somebody a reason to hate something, they will. And that's why no respectful dev would do that anymore.

It's a good reason. They have a new console and thus want people to buy it and the games for it instead of sticking with their old consoles and not getting money which is in itself the most important part of a company is the making of money.

You also dont have to buy the game ahain nobody is holding you down and forcing you to buy it.
Most people who own Wii U's will probably be getting the Switch anyway... There's basically no reason to try and appeal to previous Wii U owners because of how narrow the market is.

How many of these people do you think would double dip for minimal content?
 

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They're still refusing to bring it to the other versions for no good reason, therefore they're holding it back.

I miss the days when DLC was a thing and you didn't have to buy the same game again just for new characters...
DLC was and is a thing.
It's what's gotten us :4mewtwo::4lucas::4feroy::4ryu::4cloud::4corrin::4bayonetta:. 7 out of... 58 charactrs iirc, basically an 8th of the roster.

If they're moving on to make a new and "definitive" version, they have all rights to do so. "For no good reason?" Exclusives sell games. Honestly, Hyrule Warriors getting the characters it had from Legends as possible downloads for WiiU was a shocker to just about everybody.

And, to play devil's advocate.
Characters went fo... $6.99 each, right? And stages for $1.99? If "Smash Switch" has 4 new characters and 6 new stage, that'd be equivilent for $40, roughly. That's 2/3ths of the game's launch price without taking into account anything else it'd have to offer.

Edit: To take this a step further, compare it to buying the conteent for both 3DS and WiiU, bcause thee Switch functions both handheld and console. Those prices were then... $8.99 and $2.99?
That jumps up the equivilent "DLC cost" to... $54, if my math isn't failing me. NEARLY the price of the full game no discount.
 
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The only thing stopping a new character from being ported back is either sheer laziness or greed.

Hell, I'd only give it a month at most before the characters would be backported entirely, should they exist of course.



No, but that doesn't mean people can't call Nintendo out on it.

Oh, people will back out. As soon as you give somebody a reason to hate something, they will. And that's why no respectful dev would do that anymore.



Most people who own Wii U's will probably be getting the Switch anyway... There's basically no reason to try and appeal to previous Wii U owners because of how narrow the market is.

How many of these people do you think would double dip for minimal content?
It wouldn't be for people who got the wiiu, the game would be for the people who bought the Switch.
 

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People seem to forget the 3ds version of HW didn't release on a new system that had to sell. It's a terrible comparison.

They're still refusing to bring it to the other versions for no good reason, therefore they're holding it back.

I miss the days when DLC was a thing and you didn't have to buy the same game again just for new characters...
That's not holding content back. That's an incentive to buy the port. Holding back content from people is the on disc bull**** like Goro in MKX. If you didn't pre-order or pay extra through a limited edition copy or buying him from an online store you couldn't play as him.

Nintendo don't have a gun to your head, you don't have to buy it.

Yeah, re-releasing a Wii U game that's been out for a couple of years is totally going to bring in the money. Never mind all those Wii U owners that'll feel ripped off: the money is more important. Maybe they could learn a thing from Capcom: just re-release their games over and over again and the drones will keep buying them.
You do realise how big Smash is right?
Wii U owners shouldn't feel ripped off.
They got exactly what was advertised for the Wii U version. The system is dead, supporting it beyond Zelda is a terrible choice.

 

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DLC was and is a thing.
It's what's gotten us :4mewtwo::4lucas::4feroy::4ryu::4cloud::4corrin::4bayonetta:. 7 out of... 58 charactrs iirc, basically an 8th of the roster.

If they're moving on to make a new and "definitive" version, they have all rights to do so. "For no good reason?" Exclusives sell games. Honestly, Hyrule Warriors getting the characters it had from Legends as possible downloads for WiiU was a shocker to just about everybody.

And, to play devil's advocate.
Characters went fo... $6.99 each, right? And stages for $2.99? If "Smash Switch" has 4 new characters and 6 new stage, that'd be equivilent for $46, roughly. That's 3/4ths of the game's launch price without taking into account anything else it'd have to offer.
They'd still have to buy a new console, easily bumping up the price a couple hundred. Don't act like it's "only" 3/4ths of the game's launch price.
 

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Yeah, re-releasing a Wii U game that's been out for a couple of years is totally going to bring in the money. Never mind all those Wii U owners that'll feel ripped off: the money is more important. Maybe they could learn a thing from Capcom: just re-release their games over and over again and the drones will keep buying them.
What I find funny with Capcom is that the point where they finally released a new game instead of milking is the one that bit them in the butt. . .by milking in other ways, but still.

Nintendo only sold 12 million Wii U systems and they're in serious hot water because of it. So yeah, money is going to be more important to them than the few people who actually bothered to buy it. They don't "owe" anything to "loyalists," they're a company, not some kind of army that people are recruited to fight for. And yeah, they'll make some money off of it because again, a ton of people never even touched the Wii U. Some of those people are already talking about picking up the Switch and getting the games they missed, so there's some sales there.
 
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So I've been watching 2005 RAW episodes and I just got to Survivor Series and wow it's kind of amazing how intense the Smackdown vs RAW feud was back then (it was also the first one I believe).

 

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What I find funny with Capcom is that the point where they finally released a new game instead of milking is the one that bit them in the butt.

Nintendo only sold 12 million Wii U systems and they're in serious hot water because of it. So yeah, money is going to be more important to them than the few people who actually bothered to buy it. They don't "owe" anything to "loyalists," they're a company, not some kind of army that people are recruited to fight for. And yeah, they'll make some money off of it because again, a ton of people never even touched the Wii U. Some of those people are already talking ab out picking up the Switch and getting the games they missed, so there's some sales there.
So, you support Nintendo scamming customers? I'm so glad you don't work there, otherwise Nintendo really would be another Capcom. If you think such practices should be widely accepted.
 
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How many of these people do you think would double dip for minimal content?
You'd be surprised...
Just look at Pokemon for example...

Keep in mind it's not just about new content...it's getting Smash on the new system, if they can add new content, then why not?
The game's been out for almost three years at this point and I'm sure most of the player base that bought the game have stopped playing it at this point...
 

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Nah, the person themselves comes first, those things listed on that post earlier are secondary unless you have such a black and white point of view. I've met and talked to great and terrible under all of those labels.
@Rebellious Treecko 's point is devastating because it points out the ridiculousness of a principle. It's certainly might be the principle that Cultural Marxists take, though that they have principles at all is questionable.
He points out that, quite often, they go too far. The authoritarian left may over play their hand and reveal their end goal of complete state control utopia (like I think they did with Hillary).
Rather than being on the side of the black, the hispanic, the atheist, the religious, and so on, they are only using their label to fool people into believing they are for liberty.
Or, worse, they convince people that the principle of egalitarianism is correct, and that that legitimizes authoritarian regimes "forcing equality" and "forcing liberty." Well the second is an oxymoron, but the first reveals a massive disparity between those in control of force and those not, so
Intentionally skewing the purpose of a message . . .but why?

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I don't think he's so much skewing it as making a separate point about something loosely connected while using the same format.
Jesus hung out with all of the most despised scum in the land and had compassion for them. Martin Luther King Jr. dreamed of a country where children of all races could play together. But I get the feeling people on both sides of the fence wouldn't know how to extend an olive branch if it hit them in the face.
On the other hand, Jesus reprimanded the Sadducees. He reprimanded sinners who might not turn to Him. He appeals to a standard of morality which is above the social bad and good guys of the time, one that is objective and universal. He did not come to bring peace, after all: "49 I am come to cast fire on the earth; and what will I, but that it be kindled? 50 And I have a baptism wherewith I am to be baptized: and how am I straitened until it be accomplished? 51 Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. 52 For there shall be from henceforth five in one house divided: three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against his father, the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother, the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law." - Luke 12:49-53

Now, what is important to note, and what some people cannot fathom, is how one ought go about loving their neighbor. Love is not constituted in accepting everything they do. It is an act of the will to wish what is best for another, unconditionally. Often times, people don't want what is best for them. Yet, would we be justified in forcing them to accept our message? Certainly not, because that itself is evil and must result in more evil inevitably. Turn the other cheek: do not resist evil with violence. He was a great warrior for social justice, advancing the liberties of women in Roman society, freeing the slave, setting prisoners free, and on, and how did he do it? Non-violent resistance. That is the best path to making the world a better place. Unfortunately, it is a path sometimes not available but note the prohibition against violence is only lifted when all other options are exhausted, not just when we think they're exhausted, and that only happens when one must defend (never in aggression) their liberties and God-given rights. The government cannot force people to be virtuous, it cannot force people to be healthy: that is the role of civil society and the individual. Funnily enough, it turns out that the best strategy for converting hearts and minds is to extend that olive branch.

Pretty much. At least some people out there are capable of change if they're actually talked to instead of yelled at. It's not just red and blue, there's lots of purple in-between. You need to separate the issue from the human being and do things in an attempt to be constructive instead of in an attempt to lash out.
Aye. I'm even more at risk because I view the game as far above right and left. It's about statism vs liberty, the rule of law vs the laws of rulers. Yet, that never justifies hating statists. Humans have an essential, inalienable dignity that obligates all humans to honor and observe it. Ideas (which have no inherent dignity), though, like statism. Oh, that I can hate as much as I want!
 
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They'd still have to buy a new console, easily bumping up the price a couple hundred. Don't act like it's "only" 3/4ths of the game's launch price.
Well, isn't that what Nintendo wants? They have to give people reasons to buy the Switch.
 

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So, you support Nintendo scamming customers? I'm so glad you don't work there, otherwise Nintendo really would be another Capcom. If you think such practices should be widely accepted.
That's not scamming customers.
You got what was advertised for Smash U. The port is intended for those that didn't get the Wii U version and the core fans.

 

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You'd be surprised...
Just look at Pokemon for example...

Keep in mind it's not just about new content...it's getting Smash on the new system, if they can add new content, then why not?
The game's been out for almost three years at this point and I'm sure most of the player base that bought the game have stopped playing it at this point...
Yeah, but each Pokémon actually is a new game, with hundreds of new Pokémon, locations and other stuff. That's the main difference: the Pokémon games are more than just the same game re-released.
 

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DLC was and is a thing.
It's what's gotten us :4mewtwo::4lucas::4feroy::4ryu::4cloud::4corrin::4bayonetta:. 7 out of... 58 charactrs iirc, basically an 8th of the roster.

If they're moving on to make a new and "definitive" version, they have all rights to do so. "For no good reason?" Exclusives sell games. Honestly, Hyrule Warriors getting the characters it had from Legends as possible downloads for WiiU was a shocker to just about everybody.

And, to play devil's advocate.
Characters went fo... $6.99 each, right? And stages for $2.99? If "Smash Switch" has 4 new characters and 6 new stage, that'd be equivilent for $46, roughly. That's 3/4ths of the game's launch price without taking into account anything else it'd have to offer.
That's hardly a bargain... The DLC for Smash 4 was already hilariously overpriced.

It wouldn't be for people who got the wiiu, the game would be for the people who bought the Switch.
They have 35 characters on a console Snash at most.

They're getting plenty. They're getting plenty if they had the 3DS version, even, with other content.

You'd be surprised...
Just look at Pokemon for example...

Keep in mind it's not just about new content...it's getting Smash on the new system, if they can add new content, then why not?
The game's been out for almost three years at this point and I'm sure most of the player base that bought the game have stopped playing it at this point...
Third versions always sold relatively poorly... If that's a snide remark about the remakes remember that some people really like to go through the story.
 

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Getting the Wii U install base on Switch is cool and all but what about the 60m 3DS install base.

They will only fall back on it and then make a successor if this flops. And "it's a home console" is really just marketing so that they don't lose 3DS (and Pokémon) sales this holiday season...

...and rebooting Pokémon is pointless
 
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They'd still have to buy a new console, easily bumping up the price a couple hundred. Don't act like it's "only" 3/4ths of the game's launch price.
Hmm... it's like Nintendo wants people to buy their new console. That's pretty suspicious. Making a new console and then wanting people to buy it. It's a terrible business idea making something to entice people to buy their new console.
 
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I think it helps that I've sort of come to terms with the idea that this is possibly the only Smash we will see on the system.

When you think of it from that perspective, that it's really just Smash 5 except with a bit less effort put into it, then you can see why they'd jump. This is no different from Melee or Brawl. One Smash game on one system with a new roster and that's what you're getting until the next system. So in that case having exclusive characters would make sense.
 

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Hmm... it's like Nintendo wants people to buy their new console. That's pretty suspicious. Making a new console and then wanting to buy it. It's a terrible business idea making something to entice people to buy their new console.
And then what? Next thing you know, they're going get the idea that they should just keep re-releasing their games over and over, because they know people will keep buying them regardless. They'll start holding back features to include in their re-releases. They'll charge you for microtransactions. Because they know you'll buy anything put in front of you.
 

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Hmm... it's like Nintendo wants people to buy their new console. That's pretty suspicious. Making a new console and then wanting people to buy it. It's a terrible business idea making something to entice people to buy their new console.
So people who bought the Wii U are 100% a totally different audience from Switch owners and the only thing that'll convince them to switch over is three zeros and Inklings?
 
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So I've been watching 2005 RAW episodes and I just got to Survivor Series and wow it's kind of amazing how intense the Smackdown vs RAW feud was back then (it was also the first one I believe).

Yeah, it's like night and day compared to the current one.

Like, there's some high stakes but the brands haven't really interacted that much with each other, and they only have one week to change that.
 

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Well, guys...

I'm pretty tired and I'm still terrified and disgusted, but I'm trying to think positive, give Trump a chance to change my mind about him.

I just want what's best for everybody. We're all humans. I don't like hate of anyone. Not everyone is the same. And not everyone can be classified as a certain label whatever that label is.

This is a time for our nation to just try to heal from one of it's ugliest elections in years.

We have to come together as a people and try to love one another as neighbors, I know it's gonna be hard with the campaign that was run by our President-Elect, but I believe even he realizes that now that he will hold office, he has to bring every American citizen together, not just his prominently white rural fanbase.

It's going to be okay. At least I hope.
 
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I think the best case scenario for Smash on Switch is to make an iterative sequel.

That is, they keep most of the content from 3DS to Wii U, but have enough major new content (more than just characters and stages) to make it feel like it's the old games plus a sequel worth of new content, therefore justifying selling it as a new game. This way, they sell units and Switch consoles, but 3DS/Wii U owners won't feel ripped off since they have a whole new game worth of content, PLUS the old stuff packed in for free.

Dissidia did this on the PSP when Dissidia 012 was released, and it worked really well. I think such a format is perfect for Smash going forward.
 

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I think it helps that I've sort of come to terms with the idea that this is possibly the only Smash we will see on the system.

When you think of it from that perspective, that it's really just Smash 5 except with a bit less effort put into it, then you can see why they'd jump. This is no different from Melee or Brawl. One Smash game on one system with a new roster and that's what you're getting until the next system. So in that case having exclusive characters would make sense.
Except those games are actually new games. They have all made major changes from the previous games. Each game is new in it's own way. It's stupid to compare them to "Smash 4" and "Smash 4 with new characters".

I think the best case scenario for Smash on Switch is to make an iterative sequel.

That is, they keep most of the content from 3DS to Wii U, but have enough major new content (more than just characters and stages) to make it feel like it's the old games plus a sequel worth of new content, therefore justifying selling it as a new game. This way, they sell units and Switch consoles, but 3DS/Wii U owners won't feel ripped off since they have a whole new game worth of content, PLUS the old stuff packed in for free.

Dissidia did this on the PSP when Dissidia 012 was released, and it worked really well. I think such a format is perfect for Smash going forward.
That actually sounds like a decent idea. If there's enough new content to justify it and make it feel like more than just "Sm4sh with slightly more characters", then I guess I could stomach it. I just don't want Nintendo to turn into Capcom.
 
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And then what? Next thing you know, they're going get the idea that they should just keep re-releasing their games over and over, because they know people will keep buying them regardless. They'll start holding back features to include in their re-releases. They'll charge you for microtransactions. Because they know you'll buy anything put in front of you.
Watch your feet there.
That's a MASSIVELY slippery slope you have here.

Nintendo fans in particular are probably one of the most wild in expressing disdain for when they feel they're being ripped off from what they "deserve" or when something feels like a cheap cash grab.

Just to drop a few examples.
Federation Force.
Amiibo Festival.
Mario Maker 3DS.
Mario Tennis: Power Smash.
And, at least with three of these who have been released, we've seen people speak with their wallets.
Edit: Hell, Codename S.T.E.A.M. fits this as well.

Wait to see what it actually is first.
 
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I'm okay with Smash Switch simply being a port with a few new characters and modes/stages. I think Sakurai is deserving of having a some what lazy installment of the franchise. Lord knows it'll be easier for him to decide things if he pulls from ideas that were giving to him by the fan ballot.
 

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Watch your feet there.
That's a MASSIVELY slippery slope you have here.

Nintendo fans in particular are probably one of the most wild in expressing disdain for when they feel they're being ripped off from what they "deserve" or when something feels like a cheap cash grab.

Just to drop a few examples.
Federation Force.
Amiibo Festival.
Mario Maker 3DS.
Then you'd think they'd be at least slightly angry about a re-release unless it has enough new content to justify it. We don't know how much content it might have, but there shouldn't be such anticipation over a glorified port.
 
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