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N3ON

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So I watched the trailer. **** looks basic. Graphics are nice though.

I still think this game is being rushed. You could fool me if you told me this game was to be releasing in a month. Nintendo would just rather put out a rushed meh Tennis game than a rushed meh Star Fox because they at least need something this holiday. I agree with their choice.
 

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And she did the same in Galaxy 2...
And she was playable in Kart 7 and then mysteriously cut from the roster in 8.
Because someone finally sprayed the necessary pesticide to rid of us of the most unnecessary addition to Mario Kart that's not a baby, a cat or Pink Gold Peach.
 

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I don't particularly hate or strongly like any Mario character... Because they're pretty one dimensional for obvious reasons.
Only two I can legit say I like as a CHARACTER is :rosalina:because she has actual back story and a calmer demeanor, and :4luigi: because of how much more fleshed out he's become with the Mansion games and RPGs and such. But that's still not much compare to so many of my other favorite characters from other series.

:4wario: can be better thanks to the Wario Ware titles but I still find all the OTHER Wario characters more interesting since they're always doing something new each game while Wario just greeds himself up 24/7.
 
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Because someone finally sprayed the necessary pesticide to rid of us of the most unnecessary addition to Mario Kart that's not a baby, a cat or Pink Gold Peach.
You mean to tell me Petety Piranha didn't exist? Oh thank God.
 

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Not really, it depends...
and the first two.
I find her face fine, I think they balanced her out in the most recent styles of her (post Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games) imo.
But I'm sorry, I love her eyes, it makes her seem "lively". Which goes with her personality and all.
 
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You mean to tell me Petety Piranha didn't exist? Oh thank God.
Petey Piranha at least is a part of a recurring species in the series.

She's just random as hell.

''I don't know add that ****ing bee from the Galaxy games."

''There was a bee?"

Pretty much sums her up.
 

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But I like Big-Eyes Daisy.

Look at that QTP2T.
's chubby n' adorable.
I actually kind of prefer old-style Daisy. It's weird since she is literally a Peach recolor with a SMALL tweak here and there, but... Eh.
 

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Hi, I'm Daisy is the most overrated reason to hate a character.

Same for when people whine about Toad's high pitched wails.

Voice clips are far from a logical or okay reason to hate a character.
I mean, if a character's voice annoys you, I fail to see why that's not a valid reason to dislike them. Like, I don't dislike Silver as a character, for example, but the amount that his voice clips during the Sonic '06 battles drove me up a wall would, IMO, definitely be justification to hate him if I did.

As far as I'm concerned, you don't really need a "logical" or "okay" reason to hate a fictional character, or even a reason at all. If you hate one of my favorite characters I'll probably want to fight you because I get very attached to my favorite characters, but as long as you're not using that as justification to harass somebody who likes them, or being particularly nasty about it with the knowledge that somebody you're talking to likes that character -- and having a bad reason for hating a fictional character does not automatically come hand-in-hand with that -- I don't see why it really matters.
 

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I actually kind of prefer old-style Daisy. It's weird since she is literally a Peach recolor with a SMALL tweak here and there, but... Eh.
>Tan Skin
>Shorter dress with white "Rain"-ish design
>Long socks
>Actual shoes
>Red Crown
>**** gloves, goin' in bare hands
Tennis '64 Daisy was and always will be Best Daisy
Atleast, in my opinion :4pacman:
 
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The only mario characters I like are Luigi and Rosalina for just being generally awesome and Toad for a cool design. Everyone else is Meh or worse to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (unless we count wario)
I don't particularly hate or strongly like any Mario character... Because they're pretty one dimensional for obvious reasons.
Only two I can legit say I like as a CHARACTER is :rosalina:because she has actual back story and a calmer demeanor, and :4luigi: because of how much more fleshed out he's become with the Mansion games and RPGs and such. But that's still not much compare to so many of my other favorite characters from other series.

:4wario: can be better thanks to the Wario Ware titles but I still find all the OTHER Wario characters more interesting since they're always doing something new each game while Wario just greeds himself up 24/7.
INB4 bladzer
 
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I mean, if a character's voice annoys you, I fail to see why that's not a valid reason to dislike them. Like, I don't dislike Silver as a character, for example, but the amount that his voice clips during the Sonic '06 battles drove me up a wall would, IMO, definitely be justification to hate him if I did.

As far as I'm concerned, you don't really need a "logical" or "okay" reason to hate a fictional character, or even a reason at all. If you hate one of my favorite characters I'll probably want to fight you because I get very attached to my favorite characters, but as long as you're not using that as justification to harass somebody who likes them, or being particularly nasty about it with the knowledge that somebody you're talking to likes that character -- and having a bad reason for hating a fictional character does not automatically come hand-in-hand with that -- I don't see why it really matters.
I don't know I think it's cause I look at it from a specific mind set of it takes a lot of things to make a fictional character whole. And if only one part of them is bad? I think that's a pretty passing grade. So it just seems silly to hate them all together for one tiny little detail of them.

Which is exactly what happens with Daisy a good percent of the time.
 

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I actually kind of prefer old-style Daisy. It's weird since she is literally a Peach recolor with a SMALL tweak here and there, but... Eh.
Well, unless you're saying like the very first images of her I guess, cuz in that image along, I don't remember Peach having a haircut like that, short skirt like that, earrings like that...yeah, I think she's more than a "recolor", but I digress.
 

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I don't particularly hate or strongly like any Mario character... Because they're pretty one dimensional for obvious reasons.
Only two I can legit say I like as a CHARACTER is :rosalina:because she has actual back story and a calmer demeanor, and :4luigi: because of how much more fleshed out he's become with the Mansion games and RPGs and such. But that's still not much compare to so many of my other favorite characters from other series.

:4wario: can be better thanks to the Wario Ware titles but I still find all the OTHER Wario characters more interesting since they're always doing something new each game while Wario just greeds himself up 24/7.
To tell you the truth l, I like all the Mario characters. Even :4bowserjr:

They each have their own quirk
:4mario: is vanilla but has a just as bad ego problem as :4sonic:
:4luigi: is scarycat who can show a lot of toughness and is kinda cynical.
:4peach: is a princess with emotional issues as super powers and is competitive as hell
:4bowser: just wants to be a Star and the hero sometimes
:4wario2: is a greedy badass who has the ladies all over him and doesn't give a damn about what he does
:4dk: is a gorilla who likes sex
Waluigi is just an asshole that no one likes and is a big showoff
Daisy is a sassy black woman living in the desert.
:4yoshi: is just everyone's babysitter and is probably smarter than most people
:4bowserjr: is a tech geek with mommy issues
:rosalina: is just some nice librarian
And :4diddy: is just a cheeky cheap mofo who pretty much made ZeRo too dominant than he should have been.
 

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I perfer Daisy's old design and voice, but that's just me. I don't think her new design is an ''eyesore'' like others claim it to be though. But I'm not a fan of the voice. Still, I really do like her as a character.
 
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I think disliking a character based on any of their traits is fine. Maybe I don't like the way they look. Maybe I don't like their voice actor. I can dislike whatever I want about them :)
 

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It's been eons since I last heard about this game at all, and seeing a Honey Queen online was seldom for me. I THINK people used her to troll the **** out of others but I'm not sure about that
 
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The only Mario characters with any real personality is Wario,Luigi,Rosalina and bowser.Everyone else is practically a walking talking cardboard box
 

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You guys were talking about cute ghosts. I wanted to post a cute ghost.

I have a very unique idea of cuteness, though. :/
I should play Fatal Frame. What an adorable game.
 
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I think disliking a character based on any of their traits is fine. Maybe I don't like the way they look. Maybe I don't like their voice actor. I can dislike whatever I want about them :)
Classifying disliking any aspect of a character as "fine" is a slippery slope.

Let's say I dislike Daisy because she is a woman. Is that "fine"?

The line is going to have to be drawn somewhere over what's fine to dislike and what isn't... this is just a discussion about where that line is it seems. I think disliking a character based on voice is valid, but when it's just a few voice clips instead of like full dialogue it does seem a little picky.
 

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I don't know I think it's cause I look at it from a specific mind set of it takes a lot of things to make a fictional character whole. And if only one part of them is bad? I think that's a pretty passing grade. So it just seems silly to hate them all together for one tiny little detail of them.

Which is exactly what happens with Daisy a good percent of the time.
I mean, yeah, on a personal level, it takes a lot for me to hate fictional characters. They have to be actively awful in some way, enough so that they are not interesting or redeemable in some way, etc. But if other people want to hate characters indiscriminately, I don't see much point in me trying to tell them they need to have reasoning for it. I know people who do that and it's definitely maddening to me, but I also kind of feel like it's just kind of their loss because I find it a lot more fun to try and appreciate characters.
 

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The ghost in my avy has the most tragic tale. He was betrayed and murdered by the company who still uses characters from his game as their mascot anyway after killing him.

In terms of the voice debate, I can kinda see voices as a valid reason to dislike a character if it's a character you hear constantly. Like Ashly Burch as Rise. Rise is basically the main character of P4D and Ashly's voice does not suit her at all, so many people kinda had that as the nail in the coffin to decide to not get P4D, knowing they'd have to listen to Ashly force that voice for hours.
(note, I love Ashly to death but she definitely doesn't fit that character and strains herself way too much to try and get to sound like Rise)

Edit: in terms of when it's a character you don't hear all the time, voice doesn't seem like as big of a deal. But when it's a dialogue heavy game and the voice is awful, it can definitely turn people off from that character.
 
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I wonder if they were trying to make Honey Queen popular due to the lack of female drivers.

Who knows. Such an odd choice.

I like the MK7 line up though. Lakitu and Wiggler especially.
 
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