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Z25

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Apparently Tama thinks K.Rool has a shot now...

His twitter is also no longer private.

I don't mean to bring him up again, but the 180 is interesting.
Hm, interesting, I wonder what made him change his view.
 

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seeing as Pasbr was brought up again lets talk about another thing they got wrong specificly ****ing
up character representation by that i mean they made Sir Daniel fortesque a slow ike type of character.....
thats like making bowser lighter than kirby it was wrong on the cosmic level
 

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That there was only 2 character slots left and there is only 1 stage (normal + Omega) left to fill.

They can add more though.

That's him going off the fact he hasn't checked if they added anymore character or stage slots.
Oh.

So nothing new then.

Shiny get to it.
 

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seeing as Pasbr was brought up again lets talk about another thing they got wrong specificly ****ing
up character representation by that i mean they made Sir Daniel fortesque a slow ike type of character.....
thats like making bowser lighter than kirby it was wrong on the cosmic level
Eh. It's like making :4myfriends: slow. It's a gameplay balance thing that actually makes some sense from a design standpoint. Dan's got a lot of tools.
 

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If there is just one stage,, that could work well with my wolf and Shovel Knight could release soon theory. The new stage would be for Shovel Knight and then wolf wouldn't need one.
 

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Eh. It's like making :4myfriends: slow. It's a gameplay balance thing that actually makes some sense from a design standpoint. Dan's got a lot of tools.
one of dans major atributes was that he was FAST and also hes a skeleton they arnt exactly known for being heavy
 

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seeing as Pasbr was brought up again lets talk about another thing they got wrong specificly ****ing
up character representation by that i mean they made Sir Daniel fortesque a slow ike type of character.....
thats like making bowser lighter than kirby it was wrong on the cosmic level
Being wrong on a cosmic level is like Phoenix Wright being able to beat the **** out of Galactus a giant pointing finger.
 

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one of dans major atributes was that he was FAST and also hes a skeleton they arnt exactly known for being heavy
I know. I know Medievil. Dan runs around like a rabbit on speed.

But he also has tons of different items he can use. If they wanted to give him as many as they could, he had to be balanced somewhere.
 

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Maybe I'm not thinking to hard into this but it's probably just doubt that all the hush hush is about Smash at YCG.

I just believe that it's more about the retail issues than saving it for Smash. But that's just me. And I don't expect any announcement soon after the ballot ends.

I know. I know Medievil. Dan runs around like a rabbit on speed.

But he also has tons of different items he can use. If they wanted to give him as many as they could, he had to be balanced somewhere.
Let's be honest here, Dan was probably balanced fine unless they lessen his tools but it'll hurt the character. The one who got it bad in balancing was Nathan Drake and Big Daddy who weren't good at all. Even then, the game had so many problems with its design and balance.

Goddamn it Kratos, you're not THAT good
 
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YCG is the new Sakurai.

Everything they say is being interpreted to Smash.
 

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PSABR talk? Just as Swampasaur said, Dan being slow was for gameplay balance.

Another example is Big Daddy. They're hella fast whenever you fight them in Bioshock, so if that translated to PSABR what would you get? A super fast, heavy hitter who racks AP like there's no tomorrow. That's why balancing is important, and at least his level 2 gives more or less the idea of how he would play if he behaved just like in Bioshock.
 

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If there's only one more stage left; I think they will add more (for the other ballot characters), and that raises the possibility of additional characters significantly.
 

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Have i stated that i'm sick of looking at YCG tweets and sick of talking about shovel knight and he's one of my top 10 most wanted characters.Really I'm so sick of seeing his name
 

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PSABR talk? Just as Swampasaur said, Dan being slow was for gameplay balance.

Another example is Big Daddy. They're hella fast whenever you fight them in Bioshock, so if that translated to PSABR what would you get? A super fast, heavy hitter who racks AP like there's no tomorrow. That's why balancing is important, and at least his level 2 gives more or less the idea of how he would play if he behaved just like in Bioshock.
Big Daddy and Dan were my faves. So much fun to use.




Regardless, I'm gonna make an Indie crossover roster for the fun of it.
 
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PSABR talk? Just as Swampasaur said, Dan being slow was for gameplay balance.

Another example is Big Daddy. They're hella fast whenever you fight them in Bioshock, so if that translated to PSABR what would you get? A super fast, heavy hitter who racks AP like there's no tomorrow. That's why balancing is important, and at least his level 2 gives more or less the idea of how he would play if he behaved just like in Bioshock.
One example of that is that Kat is pretty mobile but has bad defenses. They just didn't balance well behind that idea. Thing is they do the same thing in Smash. I get it that Ike has incredible speed, Zero Suit Samus is weaker out of her suit or that Mewtwo has better defense but it's more of balancing the roster out and giving characters their own strengths and weaknesses.

It's the job to balance them out right so characters have a fighting chance.
 

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Last stage slot should be for Shadow Moses.

Some guy on the Snake thread once said that the omega version should be on REX's head, like in the fist fight between Snake and Liquid. Pretty genius.

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Glad to see @Opossum as a new moderator here! Should help make things run more smoothly.



Maybe it's another "enjoy my friend Shulk" situation? Of course we won't know until they actually announce whatever they need to, but it could be an example of Sakurai changing his mind. We will have to wait and see if this is actually the case though.

By the way, I'll be releasing the tentative results of BluePikmin11 BluePikmin11 's character poll (only part one) within the next 16 hours.
Vote Here:
http://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/09/10/pollsmash4/
Wow, even Giana sisters is in there... nicely done.

Wish I could vote for Moogle, though. IMO it'd be a better rep than Chocobo at the very least.
 

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One example of that is that Kat is pretty mobile but has bad defenses. They just didn't balance well behind that idea. Thing is they do the same thing in Smash. I get it that Ike has incredible speed, Zero Suit Samus is weaker out of her suit or that Mewtwo has better defense but it's more of balancing the roster out and giving characters their own strengths and weaknesses.

It's the job to balance them out right so characters have a fighting chance.
Considering how PSABR plays, does defenses even matter? I'm not even sure if a weight list exists, but does it really matter if you can't die from being knocked from the stage?
 

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GREAT INDIE CROSSOVER FIGHTING GAME:
Quote (Cave Story)
Shantae (Shantae)
Shovel Knight (Shovel Knight)
Goat (Goat Simulator)
Grunt (Amnesia)
Slender (Slender)
Freddy Fazbear (Five Nights at Freddies)
Super Meat Boy (Super Meat Boy)
Zombie (Day Z)
Lemeza (La-Mulana)
Terraria Guy (Terraria)
Jacket (Hotline Miami)
Juan (Guacamelee)
Commander Video (Bit Trip)
Don't actually know who they are but...(Runbow)
Gunvolt (Azure Striker Gunvolt)
Beck (Mighty Number 9)
Yooka and Laylee (Yooka Laylee)
Miriam (Bloodstained)
Um... Guy? (Don't Starve)
(Journey Cat Thing? )Journey
Big Daddy (Bioshock) ---Not sure if that count. I consider them independent.
Bastion Kid (Bastion)

Eh. Well I tried.
 
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GREAT INDIE CROSSOVER FIGHTING GAME:
Quote (Cave Story)
Shantae (Shantae)
Shovel Knight (Shovel Knight)
Goat (Goat Simulator)
Grunt (Amnesia)
Slender (Slender)
Freddy Fazbear (Five Nights at Freddies)
Super Meat Boy (Super Meat Boy)
Zombie (Day Z)
Lemeza (La-Mulana)
Terraria Guy (Terraria)
Jacket (Hotline Miami)
Juan (Guacamelee)
Commander Video (Bit Trip)
Don't actually know who they are but...(Runbow)
Gunvolt (Azure Striker Gunvolt)
Beck (Mighty Number 9)
Yooka and Laylee (Yooka Laylee)
Miriam (Bloodstained)
Um... Guy? (Don't Starve)
(Journey Cat Thing? )Journey
Big Daddy (Bioshock) ---Not sure if that count. I consider them independent.
Bastion Kid (Bastion)

Eh. Well I tried.
Sash Lilac (Freedom Planet) too because why not.
 

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GREAT INDIE CROSSOVER FIGHTING GAME:
Quote (Cave Story)
Shantae (Shantae)
Shovel Knight (Shovel Knight)
Goat (Goat Simulator)
Grunt (Amnesia)
Slender (Slender)
Freddy Fazbear (Five Nights at Freddies)
Super Meat Boy (Super Meat Boy)
Zombie (Day Z)
Lemeza (La-Mulana)
Terraria Guy (Terraria) ----
Jacket (Hotline Miami)
Juan (Guacamelee)
Commander Video (Bit Trip)
Don't actually know who they are but...(Runbow)
Gunvolt (Azure Striker Gunvolt)
Beck (Mighty Number 9)
Yooka and Laylee (Yooka Laylee)
Miriam (Bloodstained)
Um... Guy? (Don't Starve)
(Journey Cat Thing? )Journey
Big Daddy (Bioshock) ---Not sure if that count. I consider them independent.
Bastion Kid (Bastion)

Eh. Well I tried.
2k is most definitely not indie
also the other day i found out that journey's actually 100% owned by sony
so... yeah


(miriam & YL are waiting)
also steve is there because it was, for like five years, indie
it's just too important to exclude
also also the guy from runbow is hue
 
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2k is most definitely not indie
also the other day i found out that journey's actually 100% owned by sony
so... yeah


(miriam & YL are waiting)
also steve is there because it was, for like five years, indie
it's just too important to exclude
also also the guy from runbow is hue
>Barkley

>Goat

Mfw:


I'll be honest, I'd love to see Goat and Barkley as playable fighters, whether its a smash fan game or a traditional 2D fighting game XD :p
 
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Have i stated that i'm sick of looking at YCG tweets and sick of talking about shovel knight and he's one of my top 10 most wanted characters.Really I'm so sick of seeing his name
I'm actually getting there too. Seriously, more than 60% of the YCG tweets seem like they're deliberately taken out of context at best, and harassing the developers at worst.

How about just leave 'em alone?
 

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What even is the definition of independent anymore?
 

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I don't want there to be a "last stage." please give me smashville on 3ds at least or something
 

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I remember I tried maining Sir Dan from the beginning, but all his supers SUCKED (except for his level one when playing a 1 on 1 match, because you can sort of combo into it). Jak and Daxter ended becoming my best character in PSAS and I would use his level 3 to get kills; I usually would be able to get 6 kills with it. Then they came out with a patch that made his level 3 a second or so shorter, and that made it a lot harder to get 6 kills, and his other supers already sucked, so I dropped him (they also nerfed one of his best normal moves). I then mained Sir Dan, then my PS3 broke with the game in it shortly after... only played it about 3 times since then with friends.
 
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