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[Champ Gold]

I can't pick just 2 games, there are too many good ones... Wait, why is the Wrath of Cortex listed there? That wasn't on the PS1.

Nope it was a PS2 game and it sucked ass on the PS2.

Unless you played the GC and Xbox versions, which let's be honest as a Crash fan, you wouldn't that.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Nope it was a PS2 game and it sucked *** on the PS2.

Unless you played the GC and Xbox versions, which let's be honest as a Crash fan, you wouldn't that.

Then why the hell is it listed there? What was wrong with the PS2 version? Was it the loading times, because that's the only really bad thing I remember about that game.

 

[Deleted member]

Nope it was a PS2 game and it sucked *** on the PS2.

Unless you played the GC and Xbox versions, which let's be honest as a Crash fan, you wouldn't that.

I played it on Xbox *runs away and hides until the morning*

 

[Curious Villager]

Sorry for posting this here, your page is set to privacy. I made you a higher quality avatar as I noticed yours had a bit of jpeg artifacts going on. Enjoy!

Oh, thank you very much! Although I was recently thinking of changing my avatar again but I guess I will have to hold off for that because I will feel terrible now since you went through the trouble for this....

Thank you though, I'll change it into that then. ^^

 

[Champ Gold]

Then why the hell is it listed there? What was wrong with the PS2 version? Was it the loading times, because that's the only really bad thing I remember about that game.

Framerate is really awful, looks dull graphically and overall it's just Crash 3: Dull Edition.

Most of it's issues were fixed in the Xbox/GC versions which came out after the PS2 version. Even then the game wasn't really great.

Twinsanity tho. Now that was a fun game

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Well I just decided to vote for Parasite Eve and Tomba. Thought I'd show some love to two underrated gems.

 

[Deleted member]

I should prob try to beat a Crash game someday. I thought it was cooler when I was younger, but now I guess since all the weirder Crash incarnations I kinda strayed from it.

Was Crash 1 ever remade or on a HD collection?

Oh, thank you very much! Although I was recently thinking of changing my avatar again but I guess I will have to hold off for that since I will feel terrible now....

Thank you though, I'll change it into that then. ^^

Oh, don't worry! If you need to change it then proceed to do so. Haha. You're welcome.

 

[Champ Gold]

I should prob try to beat a Crash game someday. I thought it was cooler when I was younger, but now I guess since all the weirder Crash incarnations I kinda strayed from it.

Was Crash 1 ever remade or on a HD collection?


Oh, don't worry! If you need to change it then proceed to do so. Haha. You're welcome.

No. I really wish but it never did since Sony/Naughty Dog never own the IP and it jumps from publisher to publisher.

Activision owns it and left the series for dead. But all 3 games are all on PSN (unless you own a Vita then you can't get the games until you do a system transfer from a PS3 to Vita)

 

[pupNapoleon]

If there were not an Inkling as a playable character, wouldnt we have had a stage from the game, by now?

The cross promotion surely exists, at LEAST, that much.

 

[Deleted member]

Not sure of this was already posted. Can't find it. But it's a 4chan pic leak of Saffron:

https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/309432645#p309441984

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It's a fake, though:

Though it looks like that one Great Bay fake in terms of cheap editing to me, how exactly does the picture from Project: M confirm it's fake?

 

[Spazzy_D]

Honestly... I'm REALLY happy that Vandal Hearts is on that list.
That game was basically Sony's attempt at Fire Emblem, except rated M and with damn good reason, but DAMN it was a good game! It's... just a game that I see NEVER brought up.

1.) The game was more Ogre Battle/Final Fantasy Tactics then it was Fire Emblem.

2.) It wasn't Sony's attempt at anything.

Check out that logo in the lower right.

 

[Curious Villager]

Oh, don't worry! If you need to change it then proceed to do so. Haha. You're welcome.

It's okay, I guess I'll keep this one up for a little while longer then. ^^

Anyway, I've made a few custom sprites in anticipation for Super Mario Maker that will be available today.

Their based off the characters from the Professor Layton series.

I just had to wake up at around 4AM today of all days for some reason, guess I've probably been anticipating this game a little too much..... ^^; I'll see if I'll do some more characters since people seemed to have really liked these....

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

If there were not an Inkling as a playable character, wouldnt we have had a stage from the game, by now?

The cross promotion surely exists, at LEAST, that much.

Sakurai's statement about not being able to add too many more stages might have something to do with it.

 

[Deleted member]

If there were not an Inkling as a playable character, wouldnt we have had a stage from the game, by now?

No.
What makes you assume not having a Splatoon stage means Inkling is playable?

 

[Jdaster64]

Haven't been around much today, but I've just heard about the whole PangaeaPanga SMW TAS situation, and needless to say, I'm pretty furious.

While Nintendo is technically within their rights in saying that SMW hack TASes must have involved illegal copies of the SMW ROM at one point, since it's only just now that they've done this on a large scale when Lunar Magic's existed for over a decade, I can't see how this isn't part of a fruitless and horribly misguided attempt to remove potential level-creation competition from Super Mario Maker.

First off, I'm super-excited for Super Mario Maker, and intend to pick it up first thing tomorrow morning if I can get it in physical form. It's definitely got a ton of tools at its disposal for level creation, and the combining-and-modifying-objects approach they've taken is both novel and seemingly very elegant (I've yet to get to try it myself, but that'll change in due time). At least in my opinion, there's already a ton of depth to the game, even if it's missing a bunch of specific stuff (slopes, powerups, etc.) from past games. However, being as it's a commercial product, both limited in scope and having to appeal to a wide audience, the process of creating levels in it is necessarily an entirely different animal from what Lunar Magic, SMW Central, and the numerous other ASM hacks and such out there aim to offer. But I'd like to think that there's considerable overlap; personally, I've dabbled a bit in SMW hacking, and though SMM isn't the massive all-inclusive "level editor" twelve-year-old me dreamed of having, it's certainly enough to warrant my investment.

On the one hand, I hope that this doesn't turn a bunch of seasoned SMW level creators already skeptical of Super Mario Maker off of it entirely. However, I hope even more that Nintendo doesn't continue to target these groups and individuals that, though they certainly haven't condoned their actions in the past, they had as of yet taken little to no action against, in a desperate attempt to shut down the competition. From what I can tell, this has thus far only affected some prominent TASers (which is unfortunate enough as it stands; why attack those who aimed to get the most out of a great game - with or without modifications - rather than the ones who did the modifications in the first place?), but if this is all leading up to any sort of greater attack against the hacking community, I sincerely hope this generates a ton of ill will against Nintendo.

Copyright claims on Smash Bros. music tracks or Super Mario World LP's with Donut Plains 2 footage / credits? I assume that can be chalked up to (admittedly also flawed) external licensing issues and/or overzealous content-matching algorithms. Shutting down that Super Mario 64 "HD remake"? Perhaps a bit uncalled for, as the creator never intended to profit off of it, but at least I can see how Nintendo might have seen it as a threat to the recently VC-rereleased Super Mario 64, and at least it was taken down on a much shorter notice. But retroactively wiping away the fruits of 10+ years of creativity and love (all poured out for a game that no doubt most of the participants owned in some form or another anyway!) as if they never existed? That's another matter altogether.

Gah, Nintendo, I still love you, but sometimes you really make me just shake my head. I hold those old hacks and their TASes especially dear to me, not only because I love all the old Mario games so much, but because they (alongside the old Action Replay DS trainers) sprouted the seeds that got me initially interested in programming in the first place. Honestly, as cool as Super Mario Maker looks to be, I'd really greatly prefer to see Nintendo embrace the modding community, rather than writing it off as all generic "piracy"; it's not like that's without its precedent in the current game market (and as an aside, Extra Credits did a great piece on this very topic). At any rate, seeing this history sacrificed for what seems like a misguided attempt to generate hype for their new product, when it's more likely to do just the opposite and make a bunch of their dedicated fans like me very angry, saddens me greatly.

That's my piece on this whole situation, anyway.

 

[pupNapoleon]

No.
What makes you assume not having a Splatoon stage means Inkling is playable?

The reasoning listed in my posting.

I didnt say it is a thesis paper, but it is a theory that makes enough sense to me.
We had a Yoshi's Wooly World stage as promotion... how long ago?
Yet a new IP launch wouldn't get one?

Bull****. They are holding it off for the character.

 

[Champ Gold]

The reasoning listed in my posting.

I didnt say it is a thesis paper, but it is a theory that makes enough sense to me.
We had a Yoshi's Wooly World stage as promotion... how long ago?
Yet a new IP launch wouldn't get one?

Bull****. They are holding it off for the character.

They don't need to make a Splatoon stage at all really. They already gave it the content it needs with the trophy update and Mi costumes......For now.

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Even then, I'll say this once, I'll say this again. Splatoon won't ever get a character for Smash 4 but they will be a shoo-in and already repped to be fighters in Smash 5. Don't rush them out now and keep them as new fighters for the future NX Smash game

 

[Silvera]

You made those yourself? That's awesome

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@Prof. OboroTa-don Layton would love to see this.

 

[Deleted member]

The reasoning listed in my posting.

I didnt say it is a thesis paper, but it is a theory that makes enough sense to me.
We had a Yoshi's Wooly World stage as promotion... how long ago?
Yet a new IP launch wouldn't get one?

Bull****. They are holding it off for the character.

Your argument is literally "Yoshi got a stage from a game that wasn't released yet, so that means Splatoon IS DEFINITELY going to get a stage, and the only reason we haven't received it yet is because it's tied to a DLC character!".

Do you not realize how flawed that argument is?!?

 

[Deleted member]

They don't need to make a Splatoon stage at all really. They already gave it the content it needs with the trophy update and Mi costumes......For now.

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Even then, I'll say this once, I'll say this again. Splatoon won't ever get a character for Smash 4 but they will be a shoo-in and already repped to be fighters in Smash 5. Don't rush them out now and keep them as new fighters for the future NX Smash game

I don't get this mentality of "save them for the mext game"
This is literally the most flawed and stupid argument agaisnt a character I've ever seen, Sakurai won't hold on characters to the next game because he always makes the games as if they were the last

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Your argument is literally "Yoshi got a stage from a game that wasn't released yet, so that means Splatoon IS DEFINITELY going to get a stage, and the only reason we haven't received it yet is because it's tied to a DLC character!".

Do you not realize how flawed that argument is?!?

Not to mention we don't know how long Woolly World was in development nor do we now when the stage was added in development

 

[Deleted member]

Not to mention we don't know how long Woolly World was in development nor do we now when the stage was added in development

What we do know is that the game has been in development since before January 2013, as that was when we first saw footage of it (back when it was given the placeholder title of "Yarn Yoshi"), which was before we saw footage of Mario Kart 8, New Super Mario Bros. U (both of which got stages) and even Smash itself.

As for when it was added, we do know is that it was added "late" in development. What "late" specifically means is anyone's guess though.

 

[Fenriraga]

mario paint isn't a mode in mario maker is it? If it isn't i hope it's dlc one day

The game is littered with Mario Paint references. You can even do a trick that let's you play the fly swatting mini game in it.

 

[Champ Gold]

I don't get this mentality of "save them for the mext game"
This is literally the most flawed and stupid argument agaisnt a character I've ever seen, Sakurai won't hold on characters to the next game because he always makes the games as if they were the last

Here's the thing, this might not even be a decision for Sakurai to even make, it's not like Nintendo has some type of influence on the game in some shape or form. Plus you gotta realize that the franchise isn't even a full year old and I doubt that Sakurai will consider a new franchise but I guess he's so "unpredictable" that'll happen.

Plus let's be honest and truthful here, Smash 5/NX game will be scraping to find characters for the roster at that point. To atleast have interest in the new game, atleast have some newcomers to use for the future.

Hell the Smash Ballot is consider a suggestion box for the next game anyway as well in Japan. I feel like they will add some interesting picks but save some for the next game

 

[Fenriraga]

Not to mention we don't know how long Woolly World was in development nor do we now when the stage was added in development

Sakurai DID mention in a Miiverse post that Wolly World's stage was a last-minute sort of deal. But regardless...

 

[Deleted member]

What we do know is that the game has been in development since before January 2013, as that was when we first saw footage of it (back when it was given the placeholder title of "Yarn Yoshi"), which was before we saw footage of Mario Kart 8, New Super Mario Bros. U (both of which got stages) and even Smash itself.

As for when it was added, we do know is that it was added "late" in development. What "late" specifically means is anyone's guess though.

The stage is clearly based off the game's final look though
Also, "late" probably means "we had already finalized almost all other stages but we decided to add another whoops"

 

[Kenith]

I don't get this mentality of "save them for the mext game"
This is literally the most flawed and stupid argument agaisnt a character I've ever seen, Sakurai won't hold on characters to the next game because he always makes the games as if they were the last

I would have said the same thing...but now I'm starting to think this may be the case.
I don't think Sakurai holds DLC to the same standards as the base game. It's just extra. This is why we are probably going to see Ryu and (maybe) Shovel Knight added to the roster. I don't think he would have wanted either in the base game.
He may not want to "waste" good newcomer ideas for Smash 4's DLC, instead opting for one-time guest appearances or veterans that would get a similar level of success to new characters while being easier to make.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Your argument is literally "Yoshi got a stage from a game that wasn't released yet, so that means Splatoon IS DEFINITELY going to get a stage, and the only reason we haven't received it yet is because it's tied to a DLC character!".

Do you not realize how flawed that argument is?!?

Actually, I specifically said it was simply a theory. And you are missing the point that Nintendo has had many options to add an Inkling stage at this point, and has every reason TO add an Inkling stage.
Yet they have not.
As far as "argument"... just that you are hot headed and pick a fight at every corner?

They don't need to make a Splatoon stage at all really. They already gave it the content it needs with the trophy update and Mi costumes......For now.

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Even then, I'll say this once, I'll say this again. Splatoon won't ever get a character for Smash 4 but they will be a shoo-in and already repped to be fighters in Smash 5. Don't rush them out now and keep them as new fighters for the future NX Smash game

I find it funny how seriously people take all possibilities in here. This game should be the epitome of fun, and and we are dreaming about speculation and its all negativity.

No character needs anything. To say Nintendo's first major IP release of this magnitude, the revolution to the FPS on the equivalent to Mario Kart to the racer or Smash Bros to the fighting game, is satiated with a trophy, is exceptionally minimizing. Sure, it does not need a character, but we are getting one, and regardless of anything aside hacking, have no answers as to what will happen.

 

[Deleted member]

Here's the thing, this might not even be a decision for Sakurai to even make, it's not like Nintendo has some type of influence on the game in some shape or form. Plus you gotta realize that the franchise isn't even a full year old and I doubt that Sakurai will consider a new franchise but I guess he's so "unpredictable" that'll happen.

Plus let's be honest and truthful here, Smash 5/NX game will be scraping to find characters for the roster at that point. To atleast have interest in the new game, atleast have some newcomers to use for the future.

Hell the Smash Ballot is consider a suggestion box for the next game anyway as well in Japan. I feel like they will add some interesting picks but save some for the next game

Everyone keeps saying that as if the gaming industry will make a complete stop until the next Smash game
Look at Smash 4's first party newcomers
They all had an important role in the time between Brawl and this game or were CREATED after Brawl
Villager got an AC game in 2013 released(in America) near Smash's first trailer
WFT had Wii Fit 2 and Wii Fit U
Rosalina had her first game released just some months before Brawl and only rose in popularity sonce then
Little Mac got a game after about 20 years without one
Greninja didn't even exist 3 years ago
Palutena had Uprising
Robin and Lucina are the same as Greninja
Ditto for Shulk
Ditto X2 for Dark Pit
Bowser Jr. kept doing his job

The only newcomer without a sigbificant role after Vrawl is Duck Hunt and Sakurai already said he was chosen as a "retro character"

Do you really exlect for no characters to get more important roles or new ones to be created on the span of 5-6 years?

 

[Deleted member]

The stage is clearly based off the game's final look though

Irrelevant. The game was publically revealed before Smash was, making the point about how the game wasn't released already when Smash was yet getting a stage moot when comparing it to a new IP not even getting public acknowledgement until E3 2014 not getting a stage in Smash.

Even if the stage was developed later when "Yarn Yoshi" was more finalized into "Yoshi's Wooly World", the concept of Sakurai considering a stage ahead of time in the initial plan is no more ridiculous than the notion of deciding on Greninja being a fighter in Smash before it even had a name.

 

[pupNapoleon]

So, this Pokemon Go thing... that is amazing...

It is the same thing as the April Fools video used for job hires last year, no?

It even has the same Pokeball/Map symbol in the logo later used for the watch accessory.

 

[Champ Gold]

I find it funny how seriously people take all possibilities in here. This game should be the epitome of fun, and and we are dreaming about speculation and its all negativity.

No character needs anything. To say Nintendo's first major IP release of this magnitude, the revolution to the FPS on the equivalent to Mario Kart to the racer or Smash Bros to the fighting game, is satiated with a trophy, is exceptionally minimizing. Sure, it does not need a character, but we are getting one, and regardless of anything aside hacking, have no answers as to what will happen.

I wouldn't Splatoon that high on a pedestal right now. It was just a popular new IP that sold incredibly well in the time span that it did. I wouldn't say it revolutionize anything. And what makes you think we will get a character and it'll minimize the series. As of right now the series is super young and expecting a character without any proof is only gonna disappoint you, trust me on that.

Remember the DLC is at this point limited at this point and Kenith said the exact thins I was explaining, most of the DLC is gonna be fanservice but small at most.

Everyone keeps saying that as if the gaming industry will make a complete stop until the next Smash game
Look at Smash 4's first party newcomers
They all had an important role in the time between Brawl and this game or were CREATED after Brawl
Villager got an AC game in 2013 released(in America) near Smash's first trailer
WFT had Wii Fit 2 and Wii Fit U
Rosalina had her first game released just some months before Brawl and only rose in popularity sonce then
Little Mac got a game after about 20 years without one
Greninja didn't even exist 3 years ago
Palutena had Uprising
Robin and Lucina are the same as Greninja
Ditto for Shulk
Ditto X2 for Dark Pit
Bowser Jr. kept doing his job

The only newcomer without a sigbificant role after Vrawl is Duck Hunt and Sakurai already said he was chosen as a "retro character"

Do you really exlect for no characters to get more important roles or new ones to be created on the span of 5-6 years?

Nope but that doesn't guarantee anything might happen. Hell, it can just be the status quo for the next 5 years but not to the game's fault but more of the we don't know what the future is. The reason I said that is because we are running low as it should on characters to easily sale on. I ain't saying that it won't be impossible but as of NOW, the choices, while some are major, are getting limited. It's gotten to the point where Nabbit is a possible candidate for Smash.

It's not about keeping it up sooner but what can happen in the future, Sakurai sure as hell won't be on Smash again next year and it's not like he'll easily come back.

 

[Deleted member]

I would have said the same thing...but now I'm starting to think this may be the case.
I don't think Sakurai holds DLC to the same standards as the base game. It's just extra. This is why we are probably going to see Ryu and (maybe) Shovel Knight added to the roster. I don't think he would have wanted either in the base game.
He may not want to "waste" good newcomer ideas for Smash 4's DLC, instead opting for one-time guest appearances or veterans that would get a similar level of success to new characters while being easier to make.

He won't be "wasting" newcomer ideas for making them DLC
Gods, how hard is it to understand that he is not "saving" characters for the next game
Sakurai thinks this is the last Smash game he'll make so why would he hold things on to sonething he won't even do
The only two differences between DLC and base game is that: a)The character must be recognizable enough to sell and b)they can't be full clones
And now the "one time" thing
*sigh*
Does anyone remember what Sonic/Ike/ROB/Lucario were called during Smash 4's speculation?
There IS NO "one time" guests in Smash. Why would Sakurai spend the effort on a character that is going to be thrown away later?

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

He won't be "wasting" newcomer ideas for making them DLC
Gods, how hard is it to understand that he is not "saving" characters for the next game
Sakurai thinks this is the last Smash game he'll make so why would he hold things on to sonething he won't even do
The only two differences between DLC and base game is that: a)The character must be recognizable enough to sell and b)they can't be full clones
And now the "one time" thing
*sigh*
Does anyone remember what Sonic/Ike/ROB/Lucario were called during Smash 4's speculation?
There IS NO "one time" guests in Smash. Why would Sakurai spend the effort on a character that is going to be thrown away later?

Sooo...Snake confirmed?

But seriously, I don't think people are trying to say Sakurai himself is "saving" Inklings for next game... they are saying they would make for great newcomer material for the next game.

Saying "Sakurai thinks this is the last Smash game he'll make so why would he hold things on to something he won't even do" is just not a good argument cuz that's exactly what , and are, characters suggested to be for Brawl, but wasn't because of reasons, and now he added them.

Splatoon is honestly something I rather much see for that "next game" because he's been saying "this is the last one" for over a decade now. He KNOWS there's going to be another Smash, so WHY would he just cram in every character just because people like them to be added into Smash? They should just wait to make for good newcomer characters instead of just forcing them into this game now just because they are a "Big hit". That's just how I see it.

 

[Soul.]

I find it funny how seriously people take all possibilities in here. This game should be the epitome of fun, and and we are dreaming about speculation and its all negativity.

That's pretty much what I think about speculation lol. Not to say it is bad as a whole, but I do feel people aren't happy with the games as is and want more characters.

I can't complain though, all the DLC characters so far have come with balance patches.

Even competitive Smash is fun!

 

[Arcanir]

He won't be "wasting" newcomer ideas for making them DLC
Gods, how hard is it to understand that he is not "saving" characters for the next game
Sakurai thinks this is the last Smash game he'll make so why would he hold things on to sonething he won't even do
The only two differences between DLC and base game is that: a)The character must be recognizable enough to sell and b)they can't be full clones
And now the "one time" thing
*sigh*
Does anyone remember what Sonic/Ike/ROB/Lucario were called during Smash 4's speculation?
There IS NO "one time" guests in Smash. Why would Sakurai spend the effort on a character that is going to be thrown away later?

Iwata said in the direct announcing the ballot that Sakurai stated he won't be able to add every requests and would take them into consideration for the next Smash. So it is definitely a possibility that Sakurai is looking at the ballot choices fans are providing and is keeping the ones he can't work on now in mind for future installments.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Bruuhhhh, Spider-man Renew Your Vows is an awesome story.

I hope Spidey and MJ are still married in All-new All different Marvel.

 

[Kenith]

He won't be "wasting" newcomer ideas for making them DLC
Gods, how hard is it to understand that he is not "saving" characters for the next game
Sakurai thinks this is the last Smash game he'll make so why would he hold things on to sonething he won't even do
The only two differences between DLC and base game is that: a)The character must be recognizable enough to sell and b)they can't be full clones
And now the "one time" thing
*sigh*
Does anyone remember what Sonic/Ike/ROB/Lucario were called during Smash 4's speculation?
There IS NO "one time" guests in Smash. Why would Sakurai spend the effort on a character that is going to be thrown away later?

Yikes. I probably could have skirted the majority of this post if I had added "this is just conjecture though" as I intended but...I was replying to someone else at the same time and forgot. Whoops.
Anyways.

Gods, how hard is it to understand that he is not "saving" characters for the next game
Sakurai thinks this is the last Smash game he'll make so why would he hold things on to sonething he won't even do

Do you any proof he isn't? How do you know that? It could very well be the case.
We haven't received any highly requested newcomers and we've known about DLC for nearly a year now. Not even a confirmation of them.
The ballot that's being used to decide the DLC? Also being used to determine content for the future of Smash Bros.
Speaking of that, I highly, highly doubt this will be the last Smash, and I doubt that Sakurai thinks that even less.
Finally.

There IS NO "one time" guests in Smash. Why would Sakurai spend the effort on a character that is going to be thrown away later?

No idea. Ask Solid Snake.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Splatoon is honestly something I rather much see for that "next game" because he's been saying "this is the last one" for over a decade now. He KNOWS there's going to be another Smash, so WHY would he just cram in every character just because people like them to be added into Smash? They should just wait to make for good newcomer characters instead of just forcing them into this game now just because they are a "Big hit". That's just how I see it.

Waiting for a character so that we don't add them all at once...

 

[Deleted member]

Irrelevant. The game was publically revealed before Smash was, making the point about how the game wasn't released already when Smash was yet getting a stage moot when comparing it to a new IP not even getting public acknowledgement until E3 2014 not getting a stage in Smash.

Even if the stage was developed later when "Yarn Yoshi" was more finalized into "Yoshi's Wooly World", the concept of Sakurai considering a stage ahead of time in the initial plan is no more ridiculous than the notion of deciding on Greninja being a fighter in Smash before it even had a name.

How's saying that the stage is based off the game's final look and thus could only have been started to be worked on when the game started change in its new style irrelevant?

Sooo...Snake confirmed?

But seriously, I don't think people are trying to say Sakurai himself is "saving" Inklings for next game... they are saying they would make for great newcomer material for the next game.

Saying "Sakurai thinks this is the last Smash game he'll make so why would he hold things on to something he won't even do" is just not a good argument cuz that's exactly what , and are, characters suggested to be for Brawl, but wasn't because of reasons, and now he added them.

Splatoon is honestly something I rather much see for that "next game" because he's been saying "this is the last one" for over a decade now. He KNOWS there's going to be another Smash, so WHY would he just cram in every character just because people like them to be added into Smash? They should just wait to make for good newcomer characters instead of just forcing them into this game now just because they are a "Big hit". That's just how I see it.

That implies Sakurai was thinking of cutting Snake back when he first planned him into the roster
He didn't hold on to them, they weren't added because he didn't thonk they should be fighters but he cjanged his mind when making this game
He doesn't know there will be a next game, he always says this because THAT'S WHAT HE THINKS
It doesn't matter if he says to himself that there will be another game like the other times, he's tired and his mind believes this is the last

Iwata said in the direct announcing the ballot that Sakurai stated he won't be able to add every requests and would take them into consideration for the next Smash. So it is definitely a possibility that Sakurai is looking at the ballot choices fans are providing and is keeping the ones he can't work on now in mind for future installments.

Again, this is implying he looks through suggestions and thinks "maybe the next time"