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Nintendo's First Samurai: Takamaru for SSB4 (Final Request: Ask the US HW devs to add Takamaru)

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It would be nice if the actual enemies were real aliens, rather than armies during the Edo period that are ruled by brain washed castle lords.
Seeing their physical form in the reboot as opposed to possessed ninjas, yokai, and warriors would be a real treat. I can imagine some of them looking like the aliens from Experiment Serial Lain. :awesome:
 

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Nice! That looks like the mystical life-form, the final boss (and only real-life alien you fight in the game):

 

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There's definitely a lot of potential for enemy variety if this series ever comes back (also, though I feel like I'm mentioning it a bit too much, Kid Icarus: Uprising managed to have enemy types of all kinds, no reason for this series not to either.)
 

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There's definitely a lot of potential for enemy variety if this series ever comes back (also, though I feel like I'm mentioning it a bit too much, Kid Icarus: Uprising managed to have enemy types of all kinds, no reason for this series not to either.)
Speaking of new enemies, they also add new terrestrial enemies as possible vessels for the aliens. The original had enemies like ninja, tengu, oni, thieves, feudal samurai warriors,and undead warriors. In addition to the alien's physical forms, they can ad a variety of new enemies like rokurokubi, Japanese priest (mage enemies), kappa, nue, karakasa, wokou, and nukekubi. A Gashadokuro boss is also a must since it can be Stallord's successor.

 

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Speaking of new enemies, they also add new terrestrial enemies as possible vessels for the aliens. The original had enemies like ninja, tengu, oni, thieves, feudal samurai warriors,and undead warriors. In addition to the alien's physical forms, they can ad a variety of new enemies like rokurokubi, Japanese priest (mage enemies), kappa, nue, karakasa, wokou, and nukekubi. A Gashadokuro boss is also a must since it can be Stallord's successor.

Kitsune boss, anyone?
 

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Love that new thread title.
Well, it's kind of new.

Anyways, Takamaru vs Little Mac and Takamaru vs Greninja fights would probably be very common :p
Have people made movesets specifically trying to avoid everything Greninja does?
 

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Kitsune boss, anyone?
How the hell did I forget the infamous kitsune? One reminiscent of Kurama from Naruto with an intimidating appearance and the hax power to the boot. I also forgot another idea of a new female enemy: Yuki Onna. They can easily be the Wizzrobes of the game with the teleportaion and ice blasts to a threat.

Love that new thread title.
Have people made movesets specifically trying to avoid everything Greninja does?
Keybladeguy did one a page ago.
 
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Am I the only one hoping that the possible future installment doesn't feature aliens?

I'd like for the mysterious creature to remain a mystery. As in, it's kinda hinted to be of alien origin but there's no xenomorphs running around anywhere. Ninjas and creatures from Japanese mythology fit in better thematically. Aliens would just feel silly and out of place.
 

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Am I the only one hoping that the possible future installment doesn't feature aliens?

I'd like for the mysterious creature to remain a mystery. As in, it's kinda hinted to be of alien origin but there's no xenomorphs running around anywhere. Ninjas and creatures from Japanese mythology fit in better thematically. Aliens would just feel silly and out of place.
Just make Murasame and the others have demonic origins like in Samurai Warriors 3 and call it a day. Seeing the psychical aliens in a future installment would be as silly as the Aurum situation in Kid Icarus Uprising. Then again, we don't know whether the next title will be light-hearted, dark, or both.
 

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How the hell did I forget the infamous kitsune? One reminiscent of Kurama from Naruto with an intimidating appearance and the hax power to the boot. I also forgot another idea of a new female enemy: Yuki Onna. They can easily be the Wizzrobes of the game with the teleportaion and ice blasts to a threat.
Am I the only one hoping that the possible future installment doesn't feature aliens?

I'd like for the mysterious creature to remain a mystery. As in, it's kinda hinted to be of alien origin but there's no xenomorphs running around anywhere. Ninjas and creatures from Japanese mythology fit in better thematically. Aliens would just feel silly and out of place.
How about this? They come back and want to attack the land directly (instead of brainwashing the Daimyo and making them send out people), but still want to remain concealed, so they inhabit people and animals. However, they aren't always compatible with Earthen creatures, and they accidently cause mutations of some that they inhabit, resulting in the mythological creatures from Japanese folklore. Some of the humans that they inhabit turn red and grow long teeth. Some others grow a second mouth in the back of their heads that they must feed, but also conceal. They attempt to inhabit a common red fox and make it grow nine tails and gain extraordinary powers. This way, you never directly fight things that look like "aliens" (except maybe in the final level or something), but the aliens would still be involved and you'd still have mythological creatures.
 
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These were the demands for japan smash players wanted characters for SSB brawl.

http://smashboards.com/threads/characters-on-sakurais-poll.71872/

AND GUESS WHAT TAKAMARU IS IN THE LIST WHICH MEANS HE WAS DEMANDED TO BE IN SSB BRAWL IN JAPAN.

so I'm sure Sakurai knows beforehand and look megaman is in that list and GUESS WHAT HIS IN THE NEXT SSB GAME. lol

OH BOY, TAKAMARU PLEEEEASE!

SAKURAI.

just trying to increase our hope/chances of him joining the next SSB like Megaman did.
 
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These were the demands for japan smash players wanted characters for SSB brawl.

http://smashboards.com/threads/characters-on-sakurais-poll.71872/

AND GUESS WHAT TAKAMARU IS IN THE LIST WHICH MEANS HE WAS DEMANDED TO BE IN SSB BRAWL IN JAPAN.

so I'm sure Sakurai knows beforehand and look megaman is in that list and GUESS WHAT HIS IN THE NEXT SSB GAME. lol

OH BOY, TAKAMARU PLEEEEASE!

SAKURAI.

just trying to increase our hope/chances of him joining the next SSB like Megaman did.
Holy ****, that's the list alright! We all know that trolling director knows what we want and it would be pretty dumb if he forgot to include him this time around with all the attention he's been getting lately (From Samurai Warriors 3 to Nintendo Land).
 

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How about this? They come back and want to attack the land directly (instead of brainwashing the Daimyo and making them send out people), but still want to remain concealed, so they inhabit people and animals. However, they aren't always compatible with Earthen creatures, and they accidently cause mutations of some that they inhabit, resulting in the mythological creatures from Japanese folklore. Some of the humans that they inhabit turn red and grow long teeth. Some others grow a second mouth in the back of their heads that they must feed, but also conceal. They attempt to inhabit a common red fox and make it grow nine tails and gain extraordinary powers. This way, you never directly fight things that look like "aliens" (except maybe in the final level or something), but the aliens would still be involved and you'd still have mythological creatures.
I could dig this.

These were the demands for japan smash players wanted characters for SSB brawl.

http://smashboards.com/threads/characters-on-sakurais-poll.71872/

AND GUESS WHAT TAKAMARU IS IN THE LIST WHICH MEANS HE WAS DEMANDED TO BE IN SSB BRAWL IN JAPAN.

so I'm sure Sakurai knows beforehand and look megaman is in that list and GUESS WHAT HIS IN THE NEXT SSB GAME. lol

OH BOY, TAKAMARU PLEEEEASE!

SAKURAI.

just trying to increase our hope/chances of him joining the next SSB like Megaman did.
The results:

King Dedede(5) *In Brawl and 4*
Diddy Kong(4) *In Brawl and 4*
Geno(4) *unused Super Mario RPG music track at least*
Ike(4) *Made it to Brawl*
Ridley(4) *Boss*
Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3) *In Brawl and 4*
Krystal(3) *Cameo*
Takamaru(3) *Sticker*
Windwaker Link(3) *In Brawl and 4*
Animal Crossing MC(2) *Became playable in 4*
Claus(2) *Sticker*
Demiru(2)
Isaac(2) *Assist Trophy*
Jeff(2) *Assist Trophy*
Kawasima(2)
King K.Rool(2) *Trophy*
Lip(2)
Lucas(2) *Made it to Brawl*
Mega Man(2) *Became playable in 4*
Oguma(2)
Ouendan(2)
Sukapon(2) *Sticker*
While anything could happen, Takamaru's had more exposure than most of these other options who didn't make it playable in Brawl, so hopefully that gives him a good chance. If only there was a poll like this for Smash Bros. 4 we could take a look at... Still, it's pretty neat how many of those picks made it into Brawl in some capacity nonetheless.
 

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I remember that list and saw it recently get brought up in the GAF thread. Seeing both Takamaru and Lip on it in an era where Little Mac, Megaman, Dedede, Diddy Kong and Olimar made it in makes me feel so optimistic. Really wish another list like that was done pre-4 that could be called upon.
 

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For those not that into the music of Nazo no Murasame Jou, I thought I should share my favourite music of the game. Well, all of it basically, haha.

My big favourite is the one that plays as you enter the Murasame Castle, the last of the game. It's just so good. I always turn the audio up to max whenever I reach this part of the game.


For those who want to hear the original of the "Douchuumen" theme in SBBB, I'll link it as well. It is basically the same though. Another masterpiece imo.


It's funny how this game basically only has three songs and two of them are up there among my all-time favourites. I'll just link the last one while I'm at it, it is played when you are inside the four first castles. It's ok, fits the scenery.

 
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For those not that into the music of Nazo no Murasame Jou, I thought I should share my favourite music of the game. Well, all of it basically, haha.

My big favourite is the one that plays as you enter the Murasame Castle, the last of the game. It's just so good. I always turn the audio up to max whenever I reach this part of the game.

Just the thought of hearing this track remixed in Smash 4 makes my heart fill with rainbows. Also, did you know that the Undead Warriors make a sound similar to the Tanooki Suit transformation from Super Mario Bros. 3 when shooting fireballs?
 

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Would the removal of transforming characters rule out the possibility of a stance type character? I believe some folks here suggested making Takamaru a stance character and all.
 

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Would the removal of transforming characters rule out the possibility of a stance type character? I believe some folks here suggested making Takamaru a stance character and all.
Sadly that's the case since adding multiple playstyles would already be too much for the developers. I think a defensive, projectile heavy playstile should be good enough to make him a unique fighter.
 

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Just the thought of hearing this track remixed in Smash 4 makes my heart fill with rainbows. Also, did you know that the Undead Warriors make a sound similar to the Tanooki Suit transformation from Super Mario Bros. 3 when shooting fireballs?
No, I didn't notice, I'll keep an eye out for it.

About making Takamaru have different stances - even if it was possible I wouldn't be a fan of it. He doesn't really need a gimmick imo.

a defensive, projectile heavy playstyle
Agree 100% with this.
 

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I've been thinking, his sleeping animation could be a reference to his death in Nazo no Murame-Jo (Lying on his back and slightly twitching his legs).
 

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Would the removal of transforming characters rule out the possibility of a stance type character? I believe some folks here suggested making Takamaru a stance character and all.
No depending on the execution of the stances. The way I see it, if it involves swapping aspects of the model with a new model, it's out. Stances that have swaps in animation states are fair game.

Also, while I love the defensive projectile heavy play style suggested by @ Pacack Pacack a page before, I need speed/mobility and I need powerful ass sword draw attacks. Everyone of them should have Melee/P:M Fox up smash or Lyn assist trophy levels of power and satisfaction when landed. :p
 

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So basically Takamaru would be the opposite of someone like Little Mac in that he wouldn't do well up close?
 

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No depending on the execution of the stances. The way I see it, if it involves swapping aspects of the model with a new model, it's out. Stances that have swaps in animation states are fair game.

Also, while I love the defensive projectile heavy play style suggested by @ Pacack Pacack a page before, I need speed/mobility and I need powerful *** sword draw attacks. Everyone of them should have Melee/P:M Fox up smash or Lyn assist trophy levels of power and satisfaction when landed. :p
In my mind, Takamaru would have his killing moves be his sword draws, with his projectiles being used to rack up damage and keep opponents away. I've also toyed with the idea of his sword attacks having a unique deflecting effect on projectiles.
 

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In my mind, Takamaru would have his killing moves be his sword draws, with his projectiles being used to rack up damage and keep opponents away. I've also toyed with the idea of his sword attacks having a unique deflecting effect on projectiles.
This actually sounds a lot like one of my more recent thoughts on how he should play. A while back before I understood how significant his projectiles were (both in moveset potential and how iconic they are to him), I was thinking of him having a draw stance and sheathe stance where he could switch between fighting with the sword drawn at all times or the sword in its sheathe for immense KO blows. Nowadays though, I feel like he'd do well keeping the katana sheathed for everything but smash attacks (since they're the most powerful) and maybe swinging the sheathed sword or doing crazy things like hilt flicks or projectile deflections Kenshin style for his normals while his projectile game gets played up.

Dude could seriously be Sword Fox thinking about it. :lol
 

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On the topic of move-sets I think he would benefit from extremely fast but weak standard A attacks.
But having super strong Smash attacks what do you guys think?
 
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On the topic of move-sets I think he would benefit from extremely fast but weak standard A attacks.
But having super strong Smash attacks what do you guys think?
My idea for him gives his very few moves that do a lot of damage, but he'd have insanely good speed. His primary killing moves would be his smashes and his fireball.
 

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Is that JewWario? :sadeyes:
But yeah it is a pretty funny pic.
I we see that version of Takamaru in the new Smash.
 

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If only someone had ripped the Samurai Warriors 3 version of Nazo no Murasame-Jo's main theme (the Murasame Mode map). :(
 

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Am I the only one hoping that the possible future installment doesn't feature aliens?

I'd like for the mysterious creature to remain a mystery. As in, it's kinda hinted to be of alien origin but there's no xenomorphs running around anywhere. Ninjas and creatures from Japanese mythology fit in better thematically. Aliens would just feel silly and out of place.
i disagree only because there are about a trillion "edo period samurai" video games and animes and junk, what could set this apart and be UNIQUE is samurai guy fighting aliens.

of course make most of it brain washed edo period bad guys but i think adding the alien element is what would set it apart and make it unique and worth taking a look.
 

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i disagree only because there are about a trillion "edo period samurai" video games and animes and junk, what could set this apart and be UNIQUE is samurai guy fighting aliens.

of course make most of it brain washed edo period bad guys but i think adding the alien element is what would set it apart and make it unique and worth taking a look.
They could go a step further and show that extraterrestrial organisms were the original inspiration for many of the spirits and demons of Japanese mythology and folklore.

Meaning that you'd get to fight Alien Tengu. It's pretty win-win.
 

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I'm surprised there was a live action drama with Takamaru.
 

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They could go a step further and show that extraterrestrial organisms were the original inspiration for many of the spirits and demons of Japanese mythology and folklore.

Meaning that you'd get to fight Alien Tengu. It's pretty win-win.
Hey!
How about this? They come back and want to attack the land directly (instead of brainwashing the Daimyo and making them send out people), but still want to remain concealed, so they inhabit people and animals. However, they aren't always compatible with Earthen creatures, and they accidently cause mutations of some that they inhabit, resulting in the mythological creatures from Japanese folklore. Some of the humans that they inhabit turn red and grow long teeth. Some others grow a second mouth in the back of their heads that they must feed, but also conceal. They attempt to inhabit a common red fox and make it grow nine tails and gain extraordinary powers. This way, you never directly fight things that look like "aliens" (except maybe in the final level or something), but the aliens would still be involved and you'd still have mythological creatures.
My idea. No stealing.
 

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Wouldn't most of those ladies be in their thirties at this point? :p
 
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