Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

[Clumsyzephyr]

Those are actually the foot soldiers sais', they're entirely black instead of having the brown wrap around them like Raph's. I'm not super confident in all 4 at this point, it'd be really weird to split them up though.

Edit: here's a reference

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Editing is hard on mobile, can a mod delete this?

 

[Dan Quixote]

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figured this was worth sharing, seems like all characters and stages will be unlocked from the start

"we're not satan" lol wut, what's their problem with unlockable fighters? That's like, literally a core trope of fighting games since the nineties.

 

[FreeFox]

I just hope it isnt music or some hard to complete collectable. I dont want another case of smash bros brawl´s collectable madness in my hands.

 

[Guynamednelson]

"we're not satan" lol wut, what's their problem with unlockable fighters? That's like, literally a core trope of fighting games since the nineties.

I think they're thinking from a tournament perspective. Having to spend hours and hours unlocking every character and legal stage would be a pain in the ass for people who want their systems to be tournament-ready.

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

"we're not satan" lol wut, what's their problem with unlockable fighters? That's like, literally a core trope of fighting games since the nineties.

Maybe they got traumatized with unlocking all fighters in Ultimate, if i remember that game had hard AI for the unlockable characters, so much so that they had to nerf the AI in future patches.

That, and in general the idea of unlocking all characters in fighting games is becoming more and more rare, hell i think Smash is the only one that does it nowadays on a major degree.

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

Maybe they got traumatized with unlocking all fighters in Ultimate, if i remember that game had hard AI for the unlockable characters, so much so that they had to nerf the AI in future patches.

That, and in general the idea of unlocking all characters in fighting games is becoming more and more rare, hell i think Smash is the only one that does it nowadays on a major degree.

It's less of that and more of the fact that unlocking important content is a huge pain for a game that wants to be competitive.

 

[GoodGrief741]

I think they're thinking from a tournament perspective. Having to spend hours and hours unlocking every character and legal stage would be a pain in the ass for people who want their systems to be tournament-ready.

I never really got this mindset. If you want to give people the option to have a tournament-ready game, why not make a code for that? Like a cheat code only you disclose it. Or just put an option in the settings to auto-unlock everything.

I always felt like unlockables encourage people to try out new stuff and they also increase a game's single-player value so I wouldn't like them to go away just to please the competitive audience which is, frankly, a minority.

 

[Guynamednelson]

why not make a code for that? Like a cheat code only you disclose it. Or just put an option in the settings to auto-unlock everything

This is actually what Pokken did. And some tournament players also use GameShark/Action Replay/mods to skip that stuff as well.

 

[RileyXY1]

I never really got this mindset. If you want to give people the option to have a tournament-ready game, why not make a code for that? Like a cheat code only you disclose it. Or just put an option in the settings to auto-unlock everything.

I always felt like unlockables encourage people to try out new stuff and they also increase a game's single-player value so I wouldn't like them to go away just to please the competitive audience which is, frankly, a minority.

I think that this game is trying too hard to please the competitive fighting game community.

 

[FreeFox]

This reminds me of the Arms debate. Where getting each arm from every fighter took quite a while but it was also rather important to have them for the depth and strategy that having them offered to players. There was a debate of whether they should be banned like it was done with custom moves for smash with arguments in favor and against it. It is commonly cited as one of the reasons that prevented the series from building a healthy competitive scene.

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

Those are actually the foot soldiers sais', they're entirely black instead of having the brown wrap around them like Raph's. I'm not super confident in all 4 at this point, it'd be really weird to split them up though.

Edit: here's a reference

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huh, fair enough. I still don't feel all that confident on all 4 TMNT regardless

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I can't wait for leg girl to not be Dora so we can stop pretending Nick Jr. will ever get representation in a fighting game lol

 

[dlewis53]

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figured this was worth sharing, seems like all characters and stages will be unlocked from the start

Aw, sweet! So I won't have to wait to pick up and try out my favorites like I did in Smash Ultimate!

...Cause honestly, that was kind of a pain in the ass.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

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I remember a while back I originally said the reason all 4 TMNT weren't in the initial trailer was because either they were using radically different designs from the 87 turtles, or they're just not in (I came to this conclusion because with the first trailer being an earlier build and all 4 TMNT most likely sharing very similar models, they likely would've already been completed by the time that trailer dropped, and thus, would've all been shown off) Combine this with these sais', and yeah, I'd say the writings on the wall

just Leo and Mikey as far as the turtles go. now it's April vs Shredder vs Neither

I've mostly been just wanting April and Shredder for TMNT anyway, so that works out for me. TMNT purists are likely to feel like thus towards Nick though.

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figured this was worth sharing, seems like all characters and stages will be unlocked from the start

What on Earth would you even unlock, All-Star equivalent?

I like unlocking things, so I can't say this increases much replay value.

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

I've mostly been just wanting April and Shredder for TMNT anyway, so that works out for me. TMNT purists are likely to feel like thus towards Nick though.

What on Earth would you even unlock, All-Star equivalent?

I like unlocking things, so I can't say this increases much replay value.

The sais don't even belong to Raphael, that was debunked already. It belongs to the Foot Soldier.

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

I never really got this mindset. If you want to give people the option to have a tournament-ready game, why not make a code for that? Like a cheat code only you disclose it. Or just put an option in the settings to auto-unlock everything.

I always felt like unlockables encourage people to try out new stuff and they also increase a game's single-player value so I wouldn't like them to go away just to please the competitive audience which is, frankly, a minority.

Minority or no, this is what the game blatantly wanted to be. A competitive focused game with aspects of casual stuff for people. There's already confirmed to still be unlockables, just not Smash's style where characters and stages have to be unlocked.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

If Raph and Don aren't in the base game, bet on them being DLC.

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

"Ahh, in that case, Jellyfish Fields must be Spunch Bop's, Glove World is Pot Rice's, and the Dutchman's Ship must be Sundial's."

...But that doesn't make sense; Sandy has nothing to do with the Flying Dutchman.

This is 100% looking way too deep into things, but there was that one Dutchman's Graveyard stage in BfBB that heavily featured Sandy.

I'm totally not just bringing this up because I want the music in Nick Brawl.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Yay, April is playable in Shredder's Revenge! I wasn't sure if she'd be shown off first or not.

Also, pizza revival in co-op.

Bad news is that the game's been moved to 2022, but that makes sense since the anniversary of the cartoon is in that date (I called it all along pretty much).

Pray that this doesn't happen to NASB as well because of the above.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

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figured this was worth sharing, seems like all characters and stages will be unlocked from the start

Based! Unlockable characters should be left with time limits in the past.

 

[dlewis53]

So, with tomorrow being the next update for the game, I'm hoping that, regardless of how they're presented in the game, that Ren & Stimpy are revealed tomorrow just so we can be sure how many of the supposed 8 remaining fighters we don't know (3 if the two are completely separate, 4 if they aren't or are connected via a swap mechanic).

Also, do you guys think we'll be getting a proper release date tomorrow?

Also also:

Bad news is that the game's been moved to 2022, but that makes sense since the anniversary of the cartoon is in that date (I called it all along pretty much).

Pray that this doesn't happen to NASB as well because of the above.

...I don't really understand why the anniversary of the original Ninja Turtles cartoon would impact All-Star Brawl at all. They clearly said it'd be a Fall 2021 release, so I'm expecting a Fall 2021 release.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

So, with tomorrow being the next update for the game, I'm hoping that, regardless of how they're presented in the game, that Ren & Stimpy are revealed tomorrow just so we can be sure how many of the supposed 8 remaining fighters we don't know (3 if the two are completely separate, 4 if they aren't or are connected via a swap mechanic).

Also, do you guys think we'll be getting a proper release date tomorrow?

Also also:



...I don't really understand why the anniversary of the original Ninja Turtles cartoon would impact All-Star Brawl at all. They clearly said it'd be a Fall 2021 release, so I'm expecting a Fall 2021 release.

I thought it'd be 2021 in the end for Shredder's Revenge, and look where that got me. Just saying to be ready for anything if the devs still want to have time to make sure the game's done right.

As for the NASB release date, I'm not holding my breath on that one, seeing as they most likely will just announce the two characters. Maybe once we get closer to the finish line of November/early December depending on region.

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

Yay, April is playable in Shredder's Revenge! I wasn't sure if she'd be shown off first or not.

Also, pizza revival in co-op.

Bad news is that the game's been moved to 2022, but that makes sense since the anniversary of the cartoon is in that date (I called it all along pretty much).

Pray that this doesn't happen to NASB as well because of the above.

You forgot the best (or worst depending on who you are) part: her baggy pants are higher up in Shredder’s Revenge, which was the main point people had against her before. I think Leg Girl is a wrap

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

You forgot the best (or worst depending on who you are) part: her baggy pants are higher up in Shredder’s Revenge, which was the main point people had against her before. I think Leg Girl is a wrap

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Leg girl wears short shoes with flat heels, April has long boots with high heels. Leg girl wears shorts and has an exposed leg, April does not

Not to be arrogant, but it's Dora. These conspiracy theories are getting out of hand.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Ladies
Gentlemen
Grab thy popcorn

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I kind of wish that we didn't know about the Future Games Show announcement, because now Aang and Korra are likely to be one of the most obvious game announcements so far this year. I'd like to be surprised, but that's not very likely.

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

Leg girl wears short shoes with flat heels, April has long boots with high heels. Leg girl wears shorts and has an exposed leg, April does not

Not to be arrogant, but it's Dora. These conspiracy theories are getting out of hand.

not made by me but like idk man, the baggy pants don't make sense for Dora, and since we've seen Leo we know that's part of leg girl now

plus I think people are forgetting that boxart characters, especially when done in the style this one is, aren't picture perfect most of the time. Example: literally anytime Jimmy Neutron has been on a cover for these games

 

[dlewis53]

Ladies
Gentlemen
Grap thy popcorn

...I gotta say, that thumbnail REALLY showcases just out-of-place Live-Action Dora feels among the others in this roster.

Also, does anyone have any links to where I can watch the Future Games segment live tomorrow?

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

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not made by me but like idk man, the baggy pants don't make sense for Dora, and since we've seen Leo we know that's part of leg girl now

plus I think people are forgetting that boxart characters, especially when done in the style this one is, aren't picture perfect most of the time. Example: literally anytime Jimmy Neutron has been on a cover for these games

The other characters we've saw for this game's front cover matched, this hypothetic "leg girl" doesn't if it's supposed to be April.

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

The other characters we've saw for this game's front cover matched, this hypothetic "leg girl" doesn't if it's supposed to be April.

read the second part of what you just replied to again

 

[RileyXY1]

At least Dora is the kind of character you would put on the cover if you weren't intending to put the entire roster on the cover, considering that she is one of the two faces of the Nick Jr. brand (Blue is the other one).

 

[dlewis53]

At least Dora is the kind of character you would put on the cover if you weren't intending to put the entire roster on the cover, considering that she is one of the two faces of the Nick Jr. brand (Blue is the other one).

Animated Dora is.

Live-Action Dora, not so much.

And that doesn't change how much she would clash with the other characters.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

And that doesn't change how much she would clash with the other characters.

But the Avatar characters don't?

Anyway, Dora has such a distinctive colour scheme and outfit that even in live action and aged up she's instantly recognisable.

 

[evanwoo10]

I took photos of April in the new Shredder Revenge trailer and lined them up next to the mystery girl

Thoughts?

 

[ivanlerma]

I took photos of April in the new Shredder Revenge trailer and lined them up next to the mystery girl
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Thoughts?

The way the foot is posed doesn't match the one on the cover art.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I took photos of April in the new Shredder Revenge trailer and lined them up next to the mystery girl
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Thoughts?

The top of the hair doesn't match up. Even if the tuft is merging with Patrick, leg girl has a distinctive symmetrical and low bump in her hair, April has a high bump that goes to the left.

 

[dlewis53]

But the Avatar characters don't?

Anyway, Dora has such a distinctive colour scheme and outfit that even in live action and aged up she's instantly recognisable.

No they don't, because they were designed as cartoons who have potential for movesets that make sense for them.

Live-Action Dora doesn't have that.

 

[LimeTH]

The live action Dora argument falls apart for me when you remember there's a scene where the characters are animated.

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So if they were to put the movie version of Dora in, they could easily use this design.... which doesn't match up with the leg on the box art.

 

[FreeFox]

Damn, leg girl discussion has been pretty heated. o_0

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

The live action Dora argument falls apart for me when you remember there's a scene where the characters are animated.

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So if they were to put the movie version of Dora in, they could easily use this design.... which doesn't match up with the leg on the box art.

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That isn't the live action Dora though, that's Nick Jr. Dora with very slight adjustments to resemble LA Dora a little better - which, if used in a context other than LA Dora having a hallucination, would just come off as an off-model NJ Dora.