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Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

LimeTH

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Okay, theory time.

GIR is one of the two leftover characters.
The fact that they even gave him a splash art at all is highly suspect, but him being separate from ZIM again, and in place of another character again?
Like it'd be very weird if GIR were just a small part of ZIM's kit and yet he's getting this much face time on his own.
 

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Okay, theory time.

GIR is one of the two leftover characters.
The fact that they even gave him a splash art at all is highly suspect, but him being separate from ZIM again, and in place of another character again?
Like it'd be very weird if GIR were just a small part of ZIM's kit and yet he's getting this much face time on his own.
it probably turns out that he was feet character the entire time
RIP, Garfield and/or Jenny and/or Rocko fans, just in case it turns out accurate.
 
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dlewis53

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SmashBoards was being difficult so have this link instead NickBrawl Splash Screen Leak

There's 2 weird things that stick out to me:
1) The absence of Nigel
2) Gir being so far away from Zim
Now that screen? That screen looks Awesome! I want a poster of that!

Quick question: what would this Splash Screen be used for?
 

dlewis53

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Okay, theory time.

GIR is one of the two leftover characters.
The fact that they even gave him a splash art at all is highly suspect, but him being separate from ZIM again, and in place of another character again?
Like it'd be very weird if GIR were just a small part of ZIM's kit and yet he's getting this much face time on his own.
Didn't Rep already state that Gir is a part of Zim's moveset?
 

LimeTH

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RIP, Garfield and/or Jenny and/or Rocko fans.
I keep thinking feet character looks like Rocko's shoes, and the detail is actually wireframe from an unfinished model.

Didn't Rep already state that Gir is a part of Zim's moveset?
I think someone on the Gamemill Twitter account did? Did we ever get any actual confirmation that was real?
For all we know, the social media person didn't get the right info, and the only reason GIR didn't get a full reveal in that first trailer is because he was still so early in development? The fact they aren't telling us anything about ZIM's moveset is just making this worse.
 
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Didn't Rep already state that Gir is a part of Zim's moveset?
And so did Gamemill. Hell, they straight up said GIR's not a separate character.

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Chrom proves that a character can be both. Besides with how early retail sites were claiming 20 stages, I'm willing to bet the other 2 characters were added after the initial trailer reception
Chrom was a low effort echo fighter though and was blatantly last second. GIR doesn't make sense, the leak is fake or GIR has a special mechanic or something.

Wait, saw the art. That's just artwork. That doesn't actually mean anything for GIR.
 
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Chrom proves that a character can be both.
A better example would be Tron Bonne and Servbot in Marvel vs. Capcom 2. Chrom is mostly reusing assets while Tron and Servbot both have completely unique movesets that made their debut in 2 albeit with the same supers (Tron has the Servbot helping her perform Lunch Rush and King Servbot while the solo Servbot does it on his own.)
 
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dlewis53

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Chrom proves that a character can be both. Besides with how early retail sites were claiming 20 stages, I'm willing to bet the other 2 characters were added after the initial trailer reception
...But the only time Chrom appears outside of playable form is as part of Robin's Final Smash...something that clearly isn't featured in All-Star Brawl.

Plus, assuming that screen is real, and assuming that GIR is one of the two free post-launch characters...why is he featured on this screen then since he's not on the roster at launch? Did someone just forget to remove him from the screen or something?
 
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...But the only time Chrom appears outside of playable form is as part of Robin's Final Smash...something that clearly isn't featured in All-Star Brawl.

Plus, assuming that screen is real, and assuming that GIR is one of the two free post-launch characters...why is he featured on this screen then since he's not on the roster at launch? Did someone just forget to remove him from the screen or something?
Yeah the logic doesn't work. It hinges way too much on dev incompetence. Like... them not knowing GIR was actually playable when he got shot down and the fact he's magically a post launch addition that they oh so conveniently forgot to remove.
 
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The splash screen is indeed real. Someone else got it on Reddit and it's a much clearer picture.

I don't think promotional art is a really good case for GIR being in. Chances are he's the only assist character in the game for someone who's playable and the devs like Invader Zim.

Same thing for Mr. Saturn showing up often in official Smash promotion/artwork
 
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I don't think promotional art is a really good case for GIR being in. Chances are he's the only assist character in the game for someone who's playable and the devs like Invader Zim.

Same thing for Mr. Saturn showing up often in official Smash promotion/artwork
Well, it's not just this, it's also GIR's ambiguous status in the first trailer too. This is the second time this has happened with GIR specifically.

I know it's a stretch but it's just weird he got put in separate from ZIM in place of an actual character on the roster again.
 

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You know what I find strange. 17 out of the 20 characters have been revealed. It is all but confirmed that the last 3 are Avatar characters but why are they the last to be revealed?

It makes me wonder. Is there some kind of special Avatar related event coming between now and October 5th?
 
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Well, it's not just this, it's also GIR's ambiguous status in the first trailer too. This is the second time this has happened with GIR specifically.

I know it's a stretch but it's just weird he got put in separate from ZIM in place of an actual character on the roster again.
That wasn't in game footage though and we specifically see Zim commanding GIR in the first trailer. If it was supposed to be a quirky "playable characters do things together" then Spongebob and Patrick would've done something similar.

It happens with GIR because he's the only assist character in the entire game. While having an identity of his own.

I'll eat my words if we see actual in game footage and GIR is playable.
 
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That wasn't in game footage though and we specifically see Zim commanding GIR in the first trailer. If it was supposed to be a quirky "playable characters do things together" then Spongebob and Patrick would've done something similar.

It happens with GIR because he's the only assist character in the entire game. While having an identity of his own.

I'll eat my words if we see actual in game footage and GIR is playable.
The only way we'll know for sure is if they show ZIM's moveset before launch and GIR is there or not.
 

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The splash screen is indeed real. Someone else got it on Reddit and it's a much clearer picture.

Well, it's not just this, it's also GIR's ambiguous status in the first trailer too. This is the second time this has happened with GIR specifically.

I know it's a stretch but it's just weird he got put in separate from ZIM in place of an actual character on the roster again.
...Yeah, this still doesn't prove anything. It's just a piece of artwork (a really damn cool piece of artwork), and as Fields said, the only shots we see of GIR are in bits that aren't actual gameplay. Heck, the first time we see him involves Zim yelling and pointing, with GIR going out afterwards; that possibly alludes to one of Zim's specials (maybe his Down Special) involving him sending GIR out, and GIR in turn doing something.

This is just a theory but what if they have a avatar trailer in a Nintendo direct this month
That's pretty much what I'm going with; the three Avatar characters that make up the remainder of the base roster are going to be revealed during the September Direct (whenever it happens).
 

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I'm thinking that Zim could be the character with the absurdly bonkers gimmick that the devs alluded to a while back. As in, Zim would send out GIR for one of his specials, which the player can actually control to a degree like an on-field :ultpokemontrainer:.

If we got another Zim character as DLC, who would it be? Membrane based on his fighting style from the movie would be really cool
Yeah, although they might toss in either of his children instead.

This is just a theory but what if they have a avatar trailer in a Nintendo direct this month
That's what I was thinking too (assuming we do get the Direct, it's strangely late).
 
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Well, it's not just this, it's also GIR's ambiguous status in the first trailer too. This is the second time this has happened with GIR specifically.

I know it's a stretch but it's just weird he got put in separate from ZIM in place of an actual character on the roster again.
Rep did clarify the first time was a rendering error

This though? I don't remember, is Mr. Saturn near Ness in splash screens and such?
 

LimeTH

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In the Ren and Stimpy Reveal Trailer, near the 23 second mark, you see ZIM summon GIR and GIR proceeding to blow up on Danny
Ren and Stimpy trailer
Welp, there ya go. That's a weird amount of facetime for what basically amounts to a quick cameo appearance. The first trailer and splash art really does make him look playable.
Aw well. Back to crusading for solo Beavers. There any Angry Beavers emotes in the Discord, by the way?
 

LimeTH

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Only one for each Beaver.
Not as much as I was hoping for, but them having their own each is a promising start!

I've been hesitant to join the server and share the movesets there since I don't want to risk getting the devs in trouble if there's any actual overlap in the case we do get a playable Beaver and they get accused of taking unsolicited material or something like that. (That and I don't want to put down my phone number.)

That being said, been considering drawing up taunts, win poses and lose poses. Just need to find the time to do so.

EDIT:
One for each Beaver solo, and one of the two together.
Go figure.
 
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Not as much as I was hoping for, but them having their own each is a promising start!
Note that I edited that post, I only searched for "norb" and "dag" in the emotes box AND THEN remembered to search for "beav" as well.

For some reason the server has several Bessie emotes as well.
 
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