NFL Thread

[Reizilla]

Feb 3, 2002 was more than 10 years ago, so not one of the last ten seasons

 

[Terywj [태리]]

lol that doesn't even make sense.

 

[Reizilla]

If you wanted wanted to include that first Superbowl, you would have to say "last decade," or from 2000-2009 (not sure if this takes away any championships from the other sports, I don't keep up with them), because in the last 10 seasons ('11, '10, '09, '08, '07, '06, '05, '04, '03, '02) they've only won two Superbowls.

 

[ZIO]

The internet is funny at times.

>Patriots score 17 points

>18-1

>18-1=17

MY MIND

 

[theeboredone]

-Pats lose Super Bowl. Solution? Go party.-

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...l-wounded-souls-matt-light-rob-212551396.html

 

[M@v]

Welcome to Steelers Nation Todd Haley
http://www.steelers.com/news/articl...rdinator/f918a844-0ee2-4ecb-a4ad-78084d8497e3

P.S. Thanks Stealth Raptor

 

[Stealth Raptor]

very interesting. im sure he will do very well, i still dont necessarily agree with his firing but only time will tell

 

[M@v]

^Agreed. He has some of the best talent at his disposal I've seen in years on offense in Pittsburgh, so I'm interested to see what he does with it.


New topic:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL Inb4 New england salt....or sweet tooths.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...gets-butterfingers?module=HP11_headline_stack

 

[Stealth Raptor]

daaaaaang i almost feel bad for them now lol

 

[Terywj [태리]]

LOL Denver.

 

[theeboredone]

Boston fans are so brutal. They don't deserve the Patriots. It amazes me how much they crucify Welker, but never hate on Brady for making so many poor throws these last two games. Especially when after the Ravens game, he flat out said, "I sucked."

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I think you're forgetting the part where people are naturally ********.

 

[ZIO]

Haha, butterfingers.

Did they do anything for the Raven's Kicker?

Or, even better, the Cowboy's kicker for the season that guy had?

 

[M@v]

Dan bailey had a very good year as the cowboys ROOKIE kicker.

Its not his fault his own coach iced him

 

[Reizilla]

I would feel bad, but the Broncos are still the Broncos.

 

[ZIO]

Dan bailey had a very good year as the cowboys ROOKIE kicker.

Its not his fault his own coach iced him

Man.

But all those field goals.

Cowboys were so up and down this year I could probably make a montage of mistakes with this song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQexB3zIxBI&feature=fvst

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

So how did everyone do in the playoff challenge, for those that did it? I ended with a score 539, not bad I guess for my first crack at fantasy.

 

[M@v]

Hines Ward

 

[Stealth Raptor]

What happened?

 

[M@v]

He's getting cut. He's as legendary and iconic as the bus was here in Pittsburgh.

 

[Deleted member]

daaaannngg really? that sucks...

so idk if you guys heard

but apparently andrew luck is really athletic (basically replicated Cam Newton's combine, except he was less than .1 slower in the 40 and beat cam's 3 cone drill time and vertical jump).

also, according to metric statisticians, RGIII was easily the best passer in the nation. he also had a great combine in that he answered concerns regarding his "intangibles"

so who would you rather have in the upcoming draft? the more-athletic-than-we-thought Andrew Luck or the better-passer-and-smarter-than-we-thought Robert Griffin III?

 

[Peeze]

Circle of life.

Really interested in what will happen with Peyton

 

[theeboredone]

It's tough, because I want RG3 to succeed. However, the history of the running QB has been rather unsuccessful except for Steve Young. Funny how the only white running QB was the one to win it all. Though he did have the best WR of all time.

 

[Deleted member]

its hard not to like RGIII i want him to tear **** up. really just because i want people to stop being racist when it comes to black qb's

 

[theeboredone]

There is definitely an underlying, subconscial racism. I don't think it's intended, but black qbs do get looked down upon, and are given less chances. There was a good discussion a while back on First Take, when there was a racial discussion on why, Tim Tebow is playing despite how poor he can be at times, and how he is a poor practice player. How it's unfair, because black QBs have been in similar situations, yet never saw the field, or would even play better in practice, and never see the field.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

i think andrew luck will probably be the better player. as you said passers tend to do better then runners.

i just hope the chiefs draft Poe. i would love to see what he could do clogging up the middle for us

 

[Deleted member]

sounds interesting...kinda reminds me of kordell stewart. i feel like he was better than he got credit for.

even now for as much as vick is gettin **** on, people ignore that a significant number of his interceptions were from dropped passes. i know for sure there were 5 by the 7th game in the season, i dont know about the rest. either way 18 tds 9 interceptions looks a whole lot better than 18 td 14 int. he wasnt nearly as bad as people make him out to be (he was kinda good), and i doubt other elite qb's would be facing the same criticism

the only argument for luck is that he ran a pro style offense. which is probably a pretty good argument, but griffin did have better passing numbers

 

[theeboredone]

Yeah, Kordell was a part of that discussion. Here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st7JRB4U3fQ

I was hoping Colts would get RG3 and have him sit behind Manning. But I guess they are determined to move forward. I'm not sure what team I want to see RG3 on. Washington has the most "talent", but they haven't had much success despite how much talent they have. Cleveland has 0 weapons for RG3, and the team in general is rather poor.

 

[Peeze]

It's tough, because I want RG3 to succeed. However, the history of the running QB has been rather unsuccessful except for Steve Young. Funny how the only white running QB was the one to win it all. Though he did have the best WR of all time.

And randall cunnigham and steve mcnair.

Fran Tarkenton was a white running qb as well.

Those are just a few off the top of my head. I get your point of it being rare, but it can be done.

edit:found this great link http://espn.go.com/nfl/gallery?id=5208880

 

[Orboknown]

There is definitely an underlying, subconscial racism. I don't think it's intended, but black qbs do get looked down upon, and are given less chances. There was a good discussion a while back on First Take, when there was a racial discussion on why, Tim Tebow is playing despite how poor he can be at times, and how he is a poor practice player. How it's unfair, because black QBs have been in similar situations, yet never saw the field, or would even play better in practice, and never see the field.

which goes back to how they never let blacks QB. they would only let them be RBs r WRs on offense for the longest time

 

[Masmasher@]

The thing about RG3 is that he has actual track speed
in high school he is ranked number 3 all time in the 300 hurdles had a fast 110 hurdle time too
ran the 400 meters and the 400 hurdles too
he also placed at nationals in college as a freshman in the 400 hurdles

so what you are dealing with is a quarterback truly unlike any other

and RG3 is a passer first and a runner secondary great arm and his deep ball is great
if you dare him to run he will and really do damage
he has track speed not just football quickness
unlike other players covering 100 yards is nothing to him cause of his prior training
so his ceiling of potential is REALLY high

I like luck alot too and i saw him play damn near perfect in his bowl game
flawless execution on throws and really solid awareness in the pocket
hes definitely strong so he can barrel through people
best wishes to both of them

 

[theeboredone]

And randall cunnigham and steve mcnair.

Fran Tarkenton was a white running qb as well.

Those are just a few off the top of my head. I get your point of it being rare, but it can be done.

edit:found this great link http://espn.go.com/nfl/gallery?id=5208880

But they never won the "big game." For all the running QBs that have gone that far, only one has come out on top, where as the pocket passer continues to strive.

which goes back to how they never let blacks QB. they would only let them be RBs r WRs on offense for the longest time

Yeah, there is definitely a reverse racism when it comes to white guys playing the WR or RB position. I believe Jordy Nelson mentioned it sometime during the season.

 

[M@v]

RG3 is not a running QB. He's said a thousand times by now he always goes for the pass, and only runs if he's gone through all of his options, and his checkdown, and nothing's there.

I don't want RG3 going to Cleveland. Not because they are in my division, but because Cleveland is the black hole for QBs

Also back to hines-he's my all time favorite football player. First steelers jersey I had was him and just bought a throwback version of his during the season.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Also back to hines-he's my all time favorite football player. First steelers jersey I had was him and just bought a throwback version of his during the season.

So he's your favorite because of the money you'll make in 10 years from those jerseys

 

[theeboredone]

RG3 is not a running QB. He's said a thousand times by now he always goes for the pass, and only runs if he's gone through all of his options, and his checkdown, and nothing's there.

He still has the ability to take off, which defenses will plan for as opposed to a guy like Brady or Manning. He may prefer to pass first, but a pocket passer tends to throw it away or stall as opposed to take off and run.

 

[Deleted member]

RG3 isnt a running qb, but he did play in a spread option. there hasnt been a lot of success in the nfl for spread option qb's until Cam and Tebow

 

[Masmasher@]

Im from Cleveland and i dont want them to ruin a true talent like rg3.
the city isnt bad but the organization for the browns needs work
if Cleveland could change personnel and get a GM that actually gave a higher **** about the team and some weapons on offense then i would gladly take him
I think Cleveland should take its to first rounders and get some personnel on offense
if we could get blackwood...man that would help us out
he can run routes and is a deep threat then we would need some else to help uplift the O line to protect our quarterback...whomever that may be

 

[Reizilla]

Indy should get RG3.

 

[Deleted member]

indy's fans would hate it if the colts drafted rg3 instead of luck. they want peyton manning v.2. and honestly since lucks been playing in a pro style offense it is the safer pick. hes pretty damn athletic himself...he'll probably be in the top 3 or 4 athletes at the qb position in the nfl. in order i think its Cam, RG3, Vick, Luck, Tebow.

short read:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ect-does-impossible-and-improves-elite-status

^luck's combine numbers were ****ing impressive. not mentioned in the article was a 3 cone drill (measuring agility and acceleration) time of 6.8 sec. for comparison: cam finished in 6.92, and rg3 did it in 7.12. last year patrick peterson ran a 6.6

lucks gotta be the first pick

 

[theeboredone]

I honestly see Luck with a Big Ben body type...but can run lol.

Apparently, the Rams contacted Cowboys, asking if they wanted to swap Romo for the number 2 pick lol. Good call on JJ to say no.